Dear lord it doesn’t stop!

Ok.....what’s going on nmc or not??

Yep. That and Ghost -- because if Tyler Myers gets 6.5-7, wait until you see what Jake Gardiner gets
- AllInForFlyers

Mackinnon

Dear lord it doesn’t stop!

Ok.....what’s going on nmc or not??
- Just5

Good question. I hope no nmc in case we've got to move him.

It is and the d corps is better. I'm not really shocked at any of this as fletch was brought in to win now at all costs. I'm a little worried about what the next trade is sending a dman out. Not sure we'll get full value for ghost. I also want to keep the rest of our picks.

We'll need the prospects and picks to help us out of cap problems moving forward.
- Hextall271

Yep. I mean, we can all disagree, because we always do. But they didn't fire Hextall to not do stuff like this

The day Hextall got knifed, everybody had to know this week was coming. It was always coming

Yikes.

In all honesty though, if the Flyers didn’t do this another team would have.

if i'm Matt Duchene, i'm looking for at least 8.5m

should be able to get 9m without much fuss.

Too long. Too much. Sorry guys, this is indefensible.

Yep. I mean, we can all disagree, because we always do. But they didn't fire Hextall to not do stuff like this

The day Hextall got knifed, everybody had to know this week was coming. It was always coming
- AllInForFlyers

I never agreed with Hextall being fired but he made his own bed when he refused to fire Hakstol. That is all.

My gawd what a horrible deal for a 49pt player.

HORRIBLE

Alex Zhitnik for Brayden Coburn

Forsberg for Upshall, Parent and a First round pick. Then flipped the pick for Timonen Hartnell

Richards for Simmonds and Schenn

Carter for Voracek and Couturier

Signed Jagr for 4.4

Signed Briere

Pitkanen and Sanderson for Smith and Lupul

Steve Mason for Michael Leighton and a third round pick.

I loved Holmgren to be honest. He took a last place team and made them a final four team in a year. Took them to a Stanley Cup Final two years after that. He kept things interesting. I was fine with the Vinny deal. I was fine with the Bryzgalov deal. The problem is, the players didn’t play to standards. Not the fact Homer went out and got them.
- SuperSchennBros

I love Holmgren too!
You asked for his worst 3 deals, I replied

Fletcher did nothing in Minnesota.
Never turned the Wild into legit contenders. And he won’t do so in philly either.
- PLindbergh31

My 12 year old nephew could’ve made these deals.

Fletcher is just a conduit from the panicked owners

Seriously who couldn’t have brokered any of these freaking deals?

if i'm Matt Duchene, i'm looking for at least 8.5m

should be able to get 9m without much fuss.
- Mordecai

9 is gonna be out there if he wants it -- there's gonna be a bidding war because he's the only guy left who has put up points at a Top 6 level more than once

Yikes.

In all honesty though, if the Flyers didn’t do this another team would have.
- stayinthefnnet

I rather another team do it.

How old was RJ Umberger when he turned to poop?

I love Holmgren too!
You asked for his worst 3 deals, I replied
- Marc D

Fair enough.

Bullpoop!

Hayes is a second line player who has never collected more then 54 points in a season. He barely gets 20 goals a season and now he’s getting paid like a top line star. It’s the same shock when Mac was signed. An average player cashing in.

When Bryzgalov and LeCavalier were signed, they were signed as stars. Everyone expected them to be stars. Nobody could have known things would go south and that’s not on Holmgren. Holmgren hit more home runs then losses prior to offering these deals. It’s on the players to play to standard.

Many of you were happy Vinny and Bryzgalov signed here because they were star players. Myself included.
- SuperSchennBros

Not saying Hayes is better or same level as Duchene. But Duchene is about to get 9M+ for 7 years likely and he's never had more than 70 points. That’s just how free agency works. Teams over pay.

LOL Yeah, I'll be avoiding that until October
- AllInForFlyers

I deleted my Twitter account
Too much angina

It is and the d corps is better. I'm not really shocked at any of this as fletch was brought in to win now at all costs. I'm a little worried about what the next trade is sending a dman out. Not sure we'll get full value for ghost. I also want to keep the rest of our picks.

We'll need the prospects and picks to help us out of cap problems moving forward.
- Hextall271

Well we’re keeping ghost now right? Not going to flip him for a 3RW

Not saying Hayes is better or same level as Duchene. But Duchene is about to get 9M+ for 7 years likely and he's never had more than 70 points. That’s just how free agency works. Teams over pay.
- arichardson22

I understand that but I would rather run with the young players we have. This 7.14 million for 7 years in destined to handcuff us the same way Mac’s deal did at times.

if Seattle is smart, they stay far away from JVR or negotiate us to pay them another asset to take him.
- Mordecai

Careful for what you ask for. Look at Fletcher's Vegas draft record.

Wait until they do him a solid and sign his brother jimmy

Well we’re keeping ghost now right? Not going to flip him for a 3RW
- Just5

You almost gotta keep Ghost because of the cap hit and term, to me

Everyone was happy about Vinny coming here. Everyone was happy about Bryzgalov too. Anyone calling out Holmgren for these deals turning out the way they did is being ridiculous. You wanted it, he got it.
- SuperSchennBros

Me too, Vinnie when they signed him seemed like a very good thing, very exciting

You can feel free to call me an idiot about how wrong I was on that one lol

Well we’re keeping ghost now right? Not going to flip him for a 3RW
- Just5

If they trade Ghost, Hagg is in the last year of his contract. Has his play warranted an extension?

I never believed in Fletcher


*waits for Hextall to be named GM of the Kraken*

Careful for what you ask for. Look at Fletcher's Vegas draft record.
- FlyerFan16

yep. i have zero confidence if him at this point.

looking forward to giving up someone like Farabee just to get rid of JVR