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NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jun 18 @ 9:41 PM ET
Half Empty Glass Crowd put this in your pipes and smoke it.....



Shouldn't the goal always be to win a Cup next season, if so I'm pretty sure the draft picks to acquire JB weren't going to be a better option.

Amazing the Flyers now have 3 balanced Lefty/Righty D Pairs, make that 4 during the preseason with Freidman and Hagg/Morin.

I'm a glass is Half Full kinda thinker ....

Justin Braun is in the last year of his contract, he will be busting his ass to prove he deserves getting paid on his next deal. He has been solid number 4 defensive defenseman for quite sometime with the Sharks with a ton of playoff experience, his style of play will allow our young offensive Dmen be it Ghost, Sanhiem or Provy to jump into the play knowing they have a responsible defensive partner behind them. He isn't blocking anyones future and should Phil Myers breakout as Provy's top pair partner this season Braun can eat up easier matchups than he's used to playing against in the 5/6 slot. This will also help shelter Ghosts defensive liabilities as they will stay fresher for special team mins with a little less use on 5 v 5. He is a very good PKer, a big hole the team needed to fix. Also read that JB is known for communicating really well with his goalies, another added bonus as it should help some guy named Hart.

The barman just filled my glass up a little more, just heard Tanguay share this on NHL network .... JB will help his partners a ton with all the tendencies players have in the Western Conference, this wil lactully help the whole team and coaching staff.

Now I'm going to listen to one of my favorite Hendrix jams PURPLE HAYES and hope that Fletchers plan is better than what the half empty crowd are crying about.

Its ok I still love you half empty cuppers that beed Orange and Black as you will never be like those cross state Crying Crosby Tankers.

LETS GO FLYERS!!!!


- EBPflyer


Cheers!
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 9:43 PM ET
Sanheim can play on the point on the power play but he won't be as good as Gostisbehere. Someone is getting moved.
- MJL


Hagg is in the last year of his contract, he could be the one moved. Morin is signed for 2 more years.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:45 PM ET
Sanheim can play on the point on the power play but he won't be as good as Gostisbehere. Someone is getting moved.
- MJL


They could get something for hagg. With the type of dmen that were brought in coupled with AV’s insistence on puck moving skills on the backend. They’ll get something for him.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:46 PM ET
If it comes down to Ghost or Hagg being traded, I much rather trade 11OA + Hagg or Hagg with 2020 1st pick over trading Ghost at all to acquire what we want/need. It feels if we can’t comes to terms with Hayes that Ghost’s chances of staying with us decrease. And that sucks considering A) he’s a great player when he’s on his game B) he’s coming off a down year.

One other thing... not that he was available nor that we needed another LHD, I would have rather had Brenden Dillon over Braun. Nothing against Braun, just like Dillon as a player and he seems like a great teammate. Hilarious guy when he’s mic’ed up too!
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:47 PM ET
They could get something for hagg. With the type of dmen that were brought in coupled with AV’s insistence on puck moving skills on the backend. They’ll get something for him.
- Just5


He's an NHL player. I said earlier that I miss these a lot, but I honestly don't see how he doesn't get you a 2nd. He's a 5/6, youngish. That's gotta be worth a 2nd
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:49 PM ET
He's an NHL player. I said earlier that I miss these a lot, but I honestly don't see how he doesn't get you a 2nd. He's a 5/6, youngish. That's gotta be worth a 2nd
- AllInForFlyers


I think that’s asking a lot. 3rd yes

The problem is while young...3rd pairing is his ceiling
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
He's an NHL player. I said earlier that I miss these a lot, but I honestly don't see how he doesn't get you a 2nd. He's a 5/6, youngish. That's gotta be worth a 2nd
- AllInForFlyers

He’s the kind of guy that could quietly get to 700-800 NHL career games on a third pair.

And that’s worth something
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 18 @ 9:50 PM ET
I like the moves. Flyers have the extra 3rd at 65 to help compensate for dealing 41 and the extra 3rd/4th conditional pick next year to compensate for the 2020 3rd. Already said, but Braun in a contract year should light a fire under his butt expecially after a down year.
Mahewman
Season Ticket Holder
Boston Bruins
Location: NH
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jun 18 @ 9:52 PM ET
Regarding Hayes asking too much money/term, what do you see as the best solution to filling the center spot in their line up?

Keeping Patrick as 2c and using Laughton as 3c
and signing a cheaper 4th line UFA center, or hoping a current prospect can fill in the bottom 6 center spot?

Making a trade for a guy?

If you’ve already posted on this and I missed it, apologies.

- Marc D


I dont watch the Flyers as much as I should. How is Patrick developing?
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:54 PM ET
I dont watch the Flyers as much as I should. How is Patrick developing?
- Mahewman


It's coming, but it's a little slower than some would like. I think he's done fine for a young player, but he simply isn't ready to be a 2C
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:55 PM ET
I dont watch the Flyers as much as I should. How is Patrick developing?
- Mahewman


What you should know is whatever amount of flyers you watched was more than enough

He’s trying
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:56 PM ET
I think that’s asking a lot. 3rd yes
- Just5


I'd be kinda sour at that. I understand where you're coming from, but I'd be a little sour
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:57 PM ET
He’s the kind of guy that could quietly get to 700-800 NHL career games on a third pair.

And that’s worth something

- Marc D


I think that, too -- man, Luke Schenn's still bouncing around, up and down, getting games. Hagg's no worse, IMO
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
I'd be kinda sour at that. I understand where you're coming from, but I'd be a little sour
- AllInForFlyers


Problem is while young...3rd pairing is his ceiling and they are easy and cheap to find and sign a couple weeks into free agency
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 9:59 PM ET
Problem is while young...3rd pairing is his ceiling and they are easy and cheap to find and sign a couple weeks into free agency
- Just5


That's a fair assessment, I admit
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:00 PM ET
Exactly what I thought you'd say which is why I asked that. That's completely wrong. I disagree with your entire statement here. Recipe for failure.

You couldn't be more wrong about wanting to win multiple Cups. It's about what path of team building gives the team the best chance at winning a Cup. Your way isn't it. You're completely disconnected from the variables in the NHL in a Cap environment. Get that through your head.

Do you really think the moves made so far, including if they sign Hayes push the team towards winning a Cup?

- MJL

My way isn’t? Off what factual evidence? Because you disagree just to disagree. You have zero idea what you’re talking about. You’re so full of poop, but the best part is you believe it. For every Chicago Blackhawks and Los Angeles Kings there is an Edmonton Oilers, Buffalo Sabres, Arizona Coyotes, and New York Islanders.

You said the other day that the St. Louis Blues were further along then the Flyers last offseason. You had no idea what you were talking about, but you tried to sound smart. This time last year we were joking about how their pick nearly ended up a top 10 pick for the Flyers. The Flyers were the team with the better looking future. And then Blues continued to add and got ROR (a deal people like you scoffed at, which shows what you know). Then as they continued to struggle, they fired their coach (something else you advocated against last year). Then magically, after tinkering with the chemistry and adding a new voice, they took off.

So let me get this straight. The team that just won the Stanley Cup last week, who was worse off than the Flyers last offseason, added big time and small time pieces to their team by trading picks and spending money. Then halfway through their season, when they realized they needed a new voice, they fired their coach without hesitation and the rest is history. All stuff that you’re advocating against and yet you have the audacity to tell me I’m wrong. It just happened like 5 days ago.

You’re a joke. And before you come back with your Blues were in a better place last offseason argument, remember that they absolutely tanked at the end of last season and NO ONE in the hockey world thought they were in a better place than any other team.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 18 @ 10:05 PM ET
I dont watch the Flyers as much as I should. How is Patrick developing?
- Mahewman

He has been inconsistent
Flashes of greatness at times
The second half of his rookie year he made some pretty good strides and looked ready to break out and to be a full time 2C, but last year more inconsistencies, the whole team was off and they had some big management changes.
Still very much a work in progress but likely will be a very good and maybe better than that NHLer.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 10:17 PM ET
Saying it will be 7x7 for Hayes
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

Jun 18 @ 10:18 PM ET
Saying it will be 7x7 for Hayes
- wcorvette

Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 10m10 minutes agoMore



PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 10:19 PM ET
Saying it will be 7x7 for Hayes
- wcorvette


Well, that's how much it was always gonna cost. People are gonna lose their minds when Duchene clocks in at 8.5-9
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 18 @ 10:23 PM ET
According to McKenzie, Hayes about to sign for 7 million. At least the Braun trade won t be debated anymore.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 18 @ 10:25 PM ET
Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 10m10 minutes agoMore



PHI and pending UFA Kevin Hayes are closing in on a multi-year contract with an AAV of around $7M. Term expected to be at least six years, perhaps seven. Prepare to take another UFA off the board.

- daryl stanley


Sean Couturier might be the best contract in hockey right now.

Good lord.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 18 @ 10:28 PM ET
Dam 7.5
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
To me, signing Hayes for 7 large just might save Ghost's ass for a couple of years. Gonna need that 4.5 cap hit going forward

Means Braun would have to damn near be Bobby Orr to get an extension. Provorov might get his ass bridged this offseason. Sanheim might get renewed straight up, because I don't think he has arbitration rights
SuperSchennBros
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Joined: 09.01.2012

Jun 18 @ 10:29 PM ET
According to McKenzie, Hayes about to sign for 7 million. At least the Braun trade won t be debated anymore.
- ravishingone


7.14 million per 7 years.

The brand new Andrew MacDonald has arrived, just in time for the old one to leave.
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