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Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:22 PM ET
I can't think of a single reason why anyone on this site would call me negative .
Im not MJL positive but Im not Clown negative.

To this point which of the following is not true?

1. The team has gotten softer?
2. The team has gotten older?

- opeth_pa

I guess when you trade draft picks for a player a couple years past his prime that makes you get older than drafting a 2nd and 3rd round 18 year old kid that could take 5-6 years to make the team if at all.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
I dont get it.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
His first choice is boston and since they didn't buy out backes and have free agents to sign I think that ship has sailed
- jmdodgeser4

Like 2 ships 🛳 🚢 That Passing in the night?
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:24 PM ET
Well our D corps is getting a bit older but are they getting better and actually playing Defense?

Do Braun and Niskanen add more structured D zone play and less "chicken without heads" brand of defending?

- shekkie

Yes, i cant wait to see the flyers defense do something better than just swing it around the boards and hope that it gets out
jmdodgeser4
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yes, i cant wait to see the flyers defense do something better than just swing it around the boards and hope that it gets out
- Richieattack18


hahahahaah like there is any other way to play.......wait, is there?
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:25 PM ET
I dont get it.
- MJL


Hopefully next move won’t be Marleau for ghost.
StepfordSam
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.06.2017

Jun 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
I dont get it.
- MJL


Yeah. This reeks of an action bias move.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
I dont get it.
- MJL


Right there with ya.
biggbear77
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.14.2019

Jun 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
i agree with the raspberries given on the braun trade. this is a freakin disaster that reveals complete incompetence from a gm. a 32 yr old rental chosen above 200th in the draft a very long time ago with limited skill set goes for a #2 and a #3?!? wtf?
i would argue either of the picks would be too much! heck, i was telling a friend that replacing gudas type skills would be cheap as non skating defensive players out of favor in market. there had BETTER be another piece to this play which compensates us for the gift we just gave SJ. i would think we could have had trouba if we swapped out the #2 for the #1.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:26 PM ET
Hopefully next move won’t be Marleau for ghost.
- FlyerLifer

you're an idiot
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
Holmgren still running the show. This trade has his ineptitude written all over it.
- PLindbergh31

Snider
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
I m intrigued where this goes.
- ravishingone

We for sure see one of Ghost or Hagg going.
So Hayes signs. What top forward can we get for Ghost plus #11? Seguin? Do we have to add Frost to that deal? Maybe Benn comes in.
FlyerLifer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 09.11.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
you're an idiot
- Richieattack18


No but now I know who is..
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:27 PM ET
Provy-Nisky
Braun-Sanheim
Myers-Hag
Morin

Ghost for scoring winger and pick?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
Provy-Nisky
Braun-Sanheim
Myers-Hag
Morin

Ghost for scoring winger and pick?

- Deasr1


When will Morin be a regular? When he's 30
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jun 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
I hate to see that #2 just get tossed away. It looked like there would be some very interesting players available around that 40 mark.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Jun 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
I dont get it.
- MJL


Well, that's everyone.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:28 PM ET
i agree with the raspberries given on the braun trade. this is a freakin disaster that reveals complete incompetence from a gm. a 32 yr old rental chosen above 200th in the draft a very long time ago with limited skill set goes for a #2 and a #3?!? wtf?
i would argue either of the picks would be too much! heck, i was telling a friend that replacing gudas type skills would be cheap as non skating defensive players out of favor in market. there had BETTER be another piece to this play which compensates us for the gift we just gave SJ. i would think we could have had trouba if we swapped out the #2 for the #1.

- biggbear77

He was vlassics dpartner. He is a shut down dman that can play well next to a top defenseman. As a sharks fan pointed out on facebook "braun was vlasics d partner for the last several years and is capable of top 2 minutes. you guys will love him he's great defensively, he just wont impress with points."
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
I dont get it.
- MJL


This was my initial thought as well. I don't think it's an awful trade but I don't understand why it was made
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:29 PM ET
Yeah. This reeks of an action bias move.
- StepfordSam

Affirmative action. Because this board is so darn progressive
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
I guess when you trade draft picks for a player a couple years past his prime that makes you get older than drafting a 2nd and 3rd round 18 year old kid that could take 5-6 years to make the team if at all.
- Richieattack18


Niskanen is older than the player , Gudas, he was traded for.
Braun is older than any of the young dmen on the team.

Like I said..we got older and softer which doesnt automatically mean worse just stating facts.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
No but now I know who is..
- FlyerLifer

Really? the person suggesting that the flyers would actually trade ghost for marleau isn't an idiot? lmao cool
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
Holmgren still running the show. This trade has his ineptitude written all over it.
- PLindbergh31


Grossmann. Kubina.

The more things change baby.

(frank)ing pathetic.
jaws1955
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Blairstown, NJ
Joined: 12.30.2015

Jun 18 @ 12:30 PM ET
Just a thought. With Karlsson re signed and Trouba in New York those were two big defense options for teams.

Could the value of Gostisbehere now be higher? Could you hypothetically turn him into a Domi and 15 type of deal using Montreal as an example.

- J35Bacher

I like where this is going. I've felt that Ghost was gone for a while now. Just didntbwant Trouba for him. Domi plus. Maybe not15 maybe we get the picks for Braun back.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:31 PM ET
Niskanen is older than the player , Gudas, he was traded for.
Braun is older than any of the young dmen on the team.

Like I said..we got older and softer which doesnt automatically mean worse just stating facts.

- opeth_pa

Im glad we are getting older. we obviously needed veteran leadership that isnt dog poop like amac ever since we lost kimmo and pronger. and if that isn't obvious to you then im sorry but your negativity cant be helped
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