Who's out for Braun? How much better did we get here, I'm not seeing it.
- ClaudeFather

Hopefully Hagg is out for Braun

I have an issue with him not getting the correct return in trades. He took on salary and assisted other teams with cap problems in all three deals. Generally, teams get compensated for taking on/retaining salary.

I want to improve the team. However, I want them to be good for a long time. Pissing away picks left and right is not the way to do that. Whether it is five or three picks it is still unacceptable.
- mickel25

This deal demonstrates that Fletcher does not have a solid grasp on the value of assets/draft picks. Contrast this with Hextall, who had a superior command of valuing assets.

What the heck just happened...hopefully Tomas Hertl is coming back in the deal...why the hell would Fletcher do this...this is like the anti-Trouba trade...

Well which D man is getting traded...guess Ghost is back on the block...

And an ass-load of cap-space that you need to re-sign said young players.
- Tomahawk

Niskanen off the book in two years. Braun in one year.

we have one of the top 5 farms in the NHL. When you have such a good farm its OK to send 2nd and 3rds to improve your teams biggest weaknesses
- Richieattack18

I value picks and he missed opportunities to acquire additional or hold onto current picks. That is not good GM'ing in my book.

If he is able to pull off some blockbuster deal I may be able to forgive it. I am not confident in Fletcher right now.

Maybe I am being overly critical. Who knows.

I have an issue with him not getting the correct return in trades. He took on salary and assisted other teams with cap problems in all three deals. Generally, teams get compensated for taking on/retaining salary.

I want to improve the team. However, I want them to be good for a long time. Pissing away picks left and right is not the way to do that. Whether it is five or three picks it is still unacceptable.
- mickel25

2 different issues. Yes i would have liked to get something back in the Talbot deal, a maybe mid rd pick in the gudas deal, make the hayes conditional, give up less for Braun.

The only one that was poor imo was Talbot. No idea what the market was for Braun so on the surface; so maybe that was the going rate.

He isnt pissing away picks. He is improving the team he is the GM of which he needed to do.

Or maybe Ghost is packaged with another forward(Vorachek?) for picks. Sign Panarin. Buy Khakis. Profit.
- Deasr1

Adding Braun Niskanen and Panarin while losing Ghost Gudas and Jake makes the team better???

Not going to rationalize this deal but just want to say, let's wait for the larger picture to develop. None of these recent deals do a lot for us individually but we are (hopefully) building to a successful series of deals to better the team.

We also must still rely on our young guys to step up as we did going into last season. Only difference is Fletch is adding supporting/complimentary pieces.

Provy needs a big year. He'll most likely be paired with a vet that can take pressure off of him and help him.

Patty needs a big year. If we get Hayes, Patty doesn't have to worry about tough matchups every night.

In Hart we trust. A solid vet back up (healthy) will support Hart and give him 25 or so nights off.

Patience. All we need is just a little patience...
- cdearth23

Yeeeaaaa yeeaaa

That's the reasonable assumption but why? Have to wait and see what they're going to do but I don't like putting the youth on the back burner. They should've left the defense as is. Niskanen deal made sense. Right now, adding Braun does not.
- MJL

what youth the putting on the back burner?

This deal demonstrates that Fletcher does not have a solid grasp on the value of assets/draft picks. Contrast this with Hextall, who had a superior command of valuing assets.
- StepfordSam

If we could get a GM in the middle of Hextall and Fletcher we would be golden.

Niskanen off the book in two years. Braun in one year.
- bulet13

Patrick, TK, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and Hagg all going RFA in that span.

Patrick, TK, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and Hagg all going RFA in that span.
- Tomahawk

and still need Hartman, Laughton, backup goalie this year...

and still need Hartman, Laughton, backup goalie this year...
- ClaudeFather

Forgot Myers too. And Carter Hart the very next year.

2 different issues. Yes i would have liked to get something back in the Talbot deal, a maybe mid rd pick in the gudas deal, make the hayes conditional, give up less for Braun.

The only one that was poor imo was Talbot. No idea what the market was for Braun so on the surface; so maybe that was the going rate.

He isnt pissing away picks. He is improving the team he is the GM of which he needed to do.
- daryl stanley

We have differing opinions on this subject.

Patrick, TK, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and Hagg all going RFA in that span.
- Tomahawk

Are you thinking Fletcher forgot about those contracts?

I assume that he has the players he intends to re-sign slotted with assumed values and the moves he's currently making don't push him outside of being able to do that.

I mean otherwise, yes, its time to panic.

Who's out for Braun? How much better did we get here, I'm not seeing it.
- ClaudeFather

Did you know braun has been a successful part of one of the best defensive pairs in the nhl the past 5+ years playing with vlasic? Probably not because you dont watch the sharks or know anything about the guy.
Braun will be replacing hagg most likely, ghost get traded.

Provy Niskanen
Sanheim Braun
Morin Myers

Are you thinking Fletcher forgot about those contracts?

I assume that he has the players he intends to re-sign slotted with assumed values and the moves he's currently making don't push him outside of being able to do that.

I mean otherwise, yes, its time to panic.
- shekkie

Go look at the cap and you tell me if everything is 100% fitting in. It's pretty tight.

It's really great Holmgren is still with this franchise. Good to see the trades he used to make happening again. This team is going places.

Did you know braun has been a successful part of one of the best defensive pairs in the nhl the past 5+ years playing with vlasic? Probably not because you dont watch the sharks or know anything about the guy.
Braun will be replacing hagg most likely, ghost get traded.

Provy Niskanen
Sanheim Braun
Morin Myers
- Richieattack18

Have you seen Vlasics Corsi without Braun lmao, I've watched this guy play he is a bottom pair Dman. PK bottom pair guy.

Are you thinking Fletcher forgot about those contracts?

I assume that he has the players he intends to re-sign slotted with assumed values and the moves he's currently making don't push him outside of being able to do that.

I mean otherwise, yes, its time to panic.
- shekkie

The climate is changing on these 2nd contracts for quality kids. Fletcher admitted as much. It's gonna cost (a lot) more than usual to get em all signed.

He's gonna force himself into a position to open up more cap space to get everything done.

Patrick, TK, Lindblom, Sanheim, Provorov and Hagg all going RFA in that span.
- Tomahawk

Only TK and Provy can command good money from that group so far

Go look at the cap and you tell me if everything is 100% fitting in. It's pretty tight.
- ClaudeFather

I get your point, but I'm not a GM, I make cabinets for a living. As a fan though, I assume that the GM is taking into consideration all the moves he needs to make when making any move.

I value picks and he missed opportunities to acquire additional or hold onto current picks. That is not good GM'ing in my book.

If he is able to pull off some blockbuster deal I may be able to forgive it. I am not confident in Fletcher right now.

Maybe I am being overly critical. Who knows.
- mickel25

If a 1st round pick on average becomes a career average player at 63 percent, why are you about to give up and cry like a child about a 2nd and 3rd when we obviously have more moves to come where we can recover picks and still have a HUGE surplus of young guys that are getting close to NHL ready??

The last few trades have been a nightmare in my opinion but hey, according to Feanor, I’m disconnected.
- SuperSchennBros

You told us that the entire board was going to love whatever moves Fletcher made.

So why are people not very thrilled at the least?

Have you seen Vlasics Corsi without Braun lmao, I've watched this guy play he is a bottom pair Dman. PK bottom pair guy.
- ClaudeFather

corsi is trash. next question