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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
If the player elects arbitration, the team decides one year or two

If the team elects arbitration, the player decides one year or two

However, lunaion pointed out that neither situation is applicable because it's the last year of RFA eligibility

I still think it's a miss but i've moved on

- jcragcrumple


With what it took to trade for him,
I think it’s safe to say that Trouba (his agent) probably made it we’ll known who he would be willing to extend with (if anyone)

That’s the only explanation for such a small return

And even if they wanted to keep Risto,
It’s still pretty tough for me to believe Botts wouldn’t have beaten that deal in a heartbeat if he thought Trouba would sign here

Homie said we inquired,
so I’m sure Botts had a pretty good idea on the situation
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
Ummm. I would do that. That would free up Risto to get traded.

31. 2nd. And nylander

- Sabretooth9


Think it would be one of the other of those with a lesser piece on the other end.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
What does Bogo have to do with Duchene? The issue with Duchene is making another huge, long term commitment.
- Lunaion


nah, you have to go back and reed..
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
pick 31, another pick, and a young player
- homiedclown



Do you need to even give up that much given his year last year? Nashville is trying to get out from under that contract, it appears.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:58 PM ET

Homie said we inquired,
so I’m sure Botts had a pretty good idea on the situation

- jdfitz77

more then inquired

offered more then the rangers


again my guess is this was like the antonio brown thing, between the jets and a couple of teams not named the rangers
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
Why give up assets for a declining 9 million dollar player whose value will only be slightly higher than Risto's next year?

Sure he's fun to watch...He's also fun to play against.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
He is?
- OneKaneOneCup


Horvat looked good this year but Petterson is their 1C of the future. Horvat is a 50 pt center.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
With what it took to trade for him,
I think it’s safe to say that Trouba (his agent) probably made it we’ll known who he would be willing to extend with (if anyone)

That’s the only explanation for such a small return

And even if they wanted to keep Risto,
It’s still pretty tough for me to believe Botts wouldn’t have beaten that deal in a heartbeat if he thought Trouba would sign here

Homie said we inquired,
so I’m sure Botts had a pretty good idea on the situation

- jdfitz77


I don’t know where I am
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
Why give up assets for a declining 9 million dollar player whose value will only be slightly higher than Risto's next year?

Sure he's fun to watch...He's also fun to play against.

- Sabresfan-365



THIS!!!

Why are we taking on a bigger contract for a guy heading towards Okposo territory?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:01 PM ET
Why give up assets for a declining 9 million dollar player whose value will only be slightly higher than Risto's next year?

Sure he's fun to watch...He's also fun to play against.

- Sabresfan-365



This is a bad take
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
THIS!!!

Why are we taking on a bigger contract for a guy heading towards Okposo territory?

- JVince11



This is a bad take on a bad take
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
This is a bad take
- washedup20



You have been here long enough to see enough bad takes that this is at best a mediocre take.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
Don't think subban should cost much. Contract plus declining play and defensive liability.
- TheSabresTaco

eventually we have to get a d man who is good at the defense
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:03 PM ET
THIS!!!

Why are we taking on a bigger contract for a guy heading towards Okposo territory?

- JVince11


He's one year removed from getting 3rd in the Norris race...
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Jun 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
I heard the prospect and pick would be lesser value then the 2nd and nylander

think more smith like prospect and a 3rd or 4th, pending year


if it's gonna happen, it will happen by friday

- homiedclown


I am assuming that the preds want Duchene and need the space.

Absolutely I would gladly do that deal. Then ship Risto to where ever or keep him as a 2nd pairing d

Dahlin - PK
McCabe - Risto
Pilut - bogo / Nelson

That’s not great but better
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:05 PM ET
You have been here long enough to see enough bad takes that this is at best a mediocre take.
- Sabresfan-365



I’ll give you that, I’m just not ready to put a multi year all-star, Norris candidate (did he win) in the same comparison with Okposo
SDSabre
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.05.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
I am assuming that the preds want Duchene and need the space.

Absolutely I would gladly do that deal. Then ship Risto to where ever or keep him as a 2nd pairing d

Dahlin - PK
McCabe - Risto
Pilut - bogo / Nelson

That’s not great but better

- Sabretooth9


You forgot Montour...
Carubba-Kaleta
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.27.2013

Jun 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
I am assuming that the preds want Duchene and need the space.

Absolutely I would gladly do that deal. Then ship Risto to where ever or keep him as a 2nd pairing d

Dahlin - PK
McCabe - Risto
Pilut - bogo / Nelson

That’s not great but better

- Sabretooth9

Everyone seems to forget about montour.
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

Jun 18 @ 1:06 PM ET
I am assuming that the preds want Duchene and need the space.

Absolutely I would gladly do that deal. Then ship Risto to where ever or keep him as a 2nd pairing d

Dahlin - PK
McCabe - Risto
Pilut - bogo / Nelson

That’s not great but better

- Sabretooth9


No Montour?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jun 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
With what it took to trade for him,
I think it’s safe to say that Trouba (his agent) probably made it we’ll known who he would be willing to extend with (if anyone)

That’s the only explanation for such a small return

And even if they wanted to keep Risto,
It’s still pretty tough for me to believe Botts wouldn’t have beaten that deal in a heartbeat if he thought Trouba would sign here

Homie said we inquired,
so I’m sure Botts had a pretty good idea on the situation

- jdfitz77


It was an opportunity for a move that didn't materialize. I'm sure there will be more. Moving on
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
This is a bad take
- washedup20


I actually thought his contract was longer. It’s only a 3x9.

If they retain a bit off the top that’s not soo bad actually. He’s still an easy 40-50 pt defensemen in 65-70 games each year. Would be a helluva vet to lead/teach the kids.

31 OA, Nelson, and a winger prospect. I’d be on board.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

Jun 18 @ 1:07 PM ET
I’ll give you that, I’m just not ready to put a multi year all-star, Norris candidate (did he win) in the same comparison with Okposo
- washedup20



Im not saying he'll be okposo bad, but he got significantly worse between then and now in a very short time.

We put Risto in a position to fail and he still had a higher WAR than Subban. Obviously not enough for me to say that Risto is better, but enough to say that at 9 million for 3 more years, this probably isn't the acquisition we need right now.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 1:08 PM ET
Why give up assets for a declining 9 million dollar player whose value will only be slightly higher than Risto's next year?

Sure he's fun to watch...He's also fun to play against.

- Sabresfan-365


why in the world would be want good players on this team.

Who gives a poop about cap space. Its 3 years and we have the room. Plus if we could unload, BOGO and Okposo it's a wash.
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:09 PM ET
No Montour?
- washedup20


Dahlin/PK
Montour/Risto
McCabe/Pilut
Bogo

I like that quite a bit actually. Could still trade McCabe for a forward maybe.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jun 18 @ 1:10 PM ET
I actually thought his contract was longer. It’s only a 3x9.

If they retain a bit off the top that’s not soo bad actually. He’s still an easy 40-50 pt defensemen in 65-70 games each year. Would be a helluva vet to lead/teach the kids.

31 OA, Nelson, and a winger prospect. I’d be on board.

- JVince11


See that was easy right....

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