He’s pretty solid overall besides goal scoring.

Between 2016-18 before his bad season last year he was 39th in EV assists for centers. 36th in primary assists.

Is defensively responsible.

I think if they did acquire him, you can put him with shooting talent and it can work
- OneKaneOneCup

How many GAR's does he create?

How many GAR's does he create?
- washedup20

Pretty sure he’s a positive

Vancouver needs a new DJ send Bogo and Scandizzle and Okposo there



Lets get some PK Subban in Buffalo


Make Buffalo Cool Again

Pretty sure he’s a positive
- OneKaneOneCup

Wennberg is the skid mark on the underpants of the Blue Jackets

There is 22mm in cap space currently.

22 -10 = 12

Reinharts ~4mm comes off the books that’s 16

Bogos 5+mm comes off the books
Scandella at 4+mm comes off the books.
Sheary 3mm comes off the books
Wilson and his 1mm comes off the books.

That’s 29mm now without Reinhart signed.

Is Reinhart getting 10+ per year?
Or will he most likely get 7-7.5?

Is it a smart move, I don’t know. But it can be done.
- ImThatGuy

I've actually done this in cap friendly and we have like 29M in cap space to begin 2020 with all of them off the books. Then you can take out Reinhart and Dahlin for like 12-14M.


I think the main problem I have with such a huge gap in your top end talent of Eichel, Skinner, Duchene, Dahlin, and Samson then the rest of the talent is on ELCs basically. It'd be a sparce but teams certainly can win a playoff series or two this way.

Wennberg is the skid mark on the underpants of the Blue Jackets
- washedup20

Sure

First
America and the guess who at Rock pile after bison game
Last Dave Matthews
Next elo in Nashville

Best
Blues traveler's, Pearl jam, Neil young with Booker t , Pearl jam with Neil in Toronto

Best venue St Augustine
Worst venue artpark
- homiedclown

I’d have to add to my best Cleveland 2004 The Acoustic Planet tour which was Keller Williams, Yonder Mountain, and Bela Fleck and the Flecktones and Rochester 2003 at Water Street Music Hall Umphreys McGee.

Sure
- OneKaneOneCup

Dahlin Borgen

Risto Subban

Pilot Montour


Wennberg isn't worth losing an opportunity at that lineup

How many GAR's does he create?
- washedup20

-.8 GAR

+16 the year before

+13 the year before the year before

Dahlin Borgen

Risto Subban

Pilot Montour


Wennberg isn't worth losing an opportunity at that lineup
- washedup20

I don’t care enough about Wennberg to continue this

Dahlin Borgen

Risto Subban

Pilot Montour


Wennberg isn't worth losing an opportunity at that lineup
- washedup20

Now I see another person putting Borgen as a top pairing in the future.... is this dude really that good? I guess I don't know enough about him but I didn't realize his ceiling was THAT high. Higher than Guhle, Nelson, Pilut, McCabe, etc?

Now I see another person putting Borgen as a top pairing in the future.... is this dude really that good? I guess I don't know enough about him but I didn't realize his ceiling was THAT high. Higher than Guhle, Nelson, Pilut, McCabe, etc?
- JVince11

I forgot about McCabe, swap them until Borgen is ready. Its not so much he is that good as he is the outlier to an elite player and I see them complimenting each other well.

Now I see another person putting Borgen as a top pairing in the future.... is this dude really that good? I guess I don't know enough about him but I didn't realize his ceiling was THAT high. Higher than Guhle, Nelson, Pilut, McCabe, etc?
- JVince11

He needs at least another year in Rochester but he should be a full time Sabre in 20/21.

I don’t care enough about Wennberg to continue this
- OneKaneOneCup

Who's Wennberg?

Who's Wennberg?
- washedup20

I Don't Know is on third

I forgot about McCabe, swap them until Borgen is ready. Its not so much he is that good as he is the outlier to an elite player and I see them complimenting each other well.
- washedup20

So it was more about balancing hte pairings than his actual ceiling by putting him there?? Like McNabb playing top pairing with Doughty in LAK?

Now I see another person putting Borgen as a top pairing in the future.... is this dude really that good? I guess I don't know enough about him but I didn't realize his ceiling was THAT high. Higher than Guhle, Nelson, Pilut, McCabe, etc?
- JVince11

Nope, overvaluing of a player yet again.

I saw this on cap friendly

To Buff- Miller, Callahan, Verhaeghe, 2020 2nd rd pick (TB)
To TB- Girgensons, Nelson, 2020 2nd rd pick (BUF), 2019 6th rd pick (BUF)

He needs at least another year in Rochester but he should be a full time Sabre in 20/21.
- mhp

I guess I saw him as a 2nd pairing guy at best... I saw a person or two on CF saying he's a future fringe top pairing guy or very very good 2nd pairing.

So it was more about balancing hte pairings than his actual ceiling by putting him there?? Like McNabb playing top pairing with Doughty in LAK?
- JVince11

yeah

Duchene is probly getting 10-11 million. I don’t think we can afford him with Reinhart needing a deal.
- Sabretooth9

It was said last night;
to hell with the Cap, spend it on good players and figure it out later, lol.

In all seriousness, we are seeing what was predicted a while ago
The stars getting a ton of money, at the expense of middling players and a greater need for young players on ELC's to contribute early and often.

The Sabres need a board of hockey experts to review and approve any potential trades the GM wants to make

I saw this on cap friendly

To Buff- Miller, Callahan, Verhaeghe, 2020 2nd rd pick (TB)
To TB- Girgensons, Nelson, 2020 2nd rd pick (BUF), 2019 6th rd pick (BUF)
- mhp

This works for me.

I guess I saw him as a 2nd pairing guy at best... I saw a person or two on CF saying he's a future fringe top pairing guy or very very good 2nd pairing.
- JVince11

I don't see him as a top pair guy but his ceiling could be a 3-4. It's hard to say right now, he needs more development but he progressed nicely this past season in Rochester.

Nope, overvaluing of a player yet again.
- SABRES 89

I forgot about McCabe, stop yelling at me you're not my father!