That’s probably a lot easier than moving Sobatka or Okposo

I do think Larsson & Girgs we’re finally put in their correct roles last year though,
and played reasonably well
- jdfitz77

Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role

close, a finalist for the vezina
- homiedclown

Makes sense. I remember at least one public outburst after he had been pulled. I think it was in Toronto.

one is a hall of famer for hockey

the other is trying to be in the hot dog eating hall of fame
- homiedclown

Oh my! 😂😂😂

Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role
- jcragcrumple

4th line, defense heavy situations was his role
Sure, the icetime could’ve been less

That Larsson/Girgs line was the only one that was respectable defensively-
whether u choose to acknowledge that or not

I’m sure you’d rather have had Mitts with extra d zone time though
Or play Sobatka more (freaking yuck)

close, a finalist for the vezina
- homiedclown

Well I’m sure he didn’t have much credibility here,
especially the last season

Watch this Vancouver noise turn out to be
Marco Scandella for Brandon Sutter.

4th line, defense heavy situations was his role
Sure, the icetime could’ve been less

That Larsson/Girgs line was the only one that was respectable defensively-
whether u choose to acknowledge that or not

I’m sure you’d rather have had Mitts with extra d zone time though
Or play Sobatka more (freaking yuck)
- jdfitz77

Being decent defensively and useless offensively is no more valuable than being decent offensively and useless defensively.

He's a reverse Sheary.

So I'll say again: Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role

Being decent defensively and useless offensively is no more valuable than being decent offensively and useless defensively.

He's a reverse Sheary.

So I'll say again: Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role
- jcragcrumple

I’d still take Larsson as the Sabres 4th line center.

I’d still take Larsson as the Sabres 4th line center.
- ImThatGuy

That’s what Sobotka can do already.

I’d still take Larsson as the Sabres 4th line center.
- ImThatGuy

Sure, pick one of Sobotka, Girgs, Larsson and Wilson and play them for 10 mins a night

Being decent defensively and useless offensively is no more valuable than being decent offensively and useless defensively.

He's a reverse Sheary.

So I'll say again: Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role
- jcragcrumple

Not true
If u played Mits & Sheary that heavily defensively, then:
1) their scoring would decrease
2) they’d give up many more goals

U can’t just play “offensive” guys in defense roles & expect their points will go up bc they get more icetime
It’s how they’re used in that extra icetime that will play a heavy factor in their production

Watch this Vancouver noise turn out to be
Marco Scandella for Brandon Sutter.
- ImThatGuy

I'd rather keep Scandella... expiring and cheaper. and... actually puts up more points.

Sure, pick one of Sobotka, Girgs, Larsson and Wilson and play them for 10 mins a night
- jcragcrumple

I think Larsson is easily the best of that group

Not true
If u played Mits & Sheary that heavily defensively, then:
1) their scoring would decrease
2) they’d give up many more goals

U can’t just play “offensive” guys in defense roles & expect their points will go up bc they get more icetime
It’s how they’re used in that extra icetime that will play a heavy factor in their production
- jdfitz77

That wasn't my point at all. Nvm

I think Larsson is easily the best of that group
- Slump Buster

I think hippopotamus crap is the best crap of the crap group.

Being decent defensively and useless offensively is no more valuable than being decent offensively and useless defensively.

He's a reverse Sheary.

So I'll say again: Playing 14 mins a night is not Girgensons' correct role
- jcragcrumple

It's not how you'd like to use him, but it's the best Phil had to work with. They need better two-way players, no question there.

Not true
If u played Mits & Sheary that heavily defensively, then:
1) their scoring would decrease
2) they’d give up many more goals

U can’t just play “offensive” guys in defense roles & expect their points will go up bc they get more icetime
It’s how they’re used in that extra icetime that will play a heavy factor in their production
- jdfitz77

If you’re on defense and considered offensive, even if you don’t possess the puck your numbers will clearly go up because your offensive in the defensive zone

That wasn't my point at all. Nvm
- jcragcrumple

Well someone has to play the heavy defensive minutes

Maybe E Rod can handle that & put up some points too, but that’s a “maybe”

We don’t really have a good 2way guy for that role anymore

I think Larsson is easily the best of that group
- Slump Buster

God that hurts.

I was the biggest Girgensons fan in the world. I really thought with the right center he could be our poor man's version of Lucic or Dustin Brown. He had that 30 pt season in only 60 games.

Sure, pick one of Sobotka, Girgs, Larsson and Wilson and play them for 10 mins a night
- jcragcrumple

And who plays those other defensive minutes???

They don’t just turn into offensive zone time bc u pull Girgs or Larsson off the ice

I think hippopotamus crap is the best crap of the crap group.
- Der Kaiser

Ohhhh hippopotamus crap melt on rye.... la la.

I think hippopotamus crap is the best crap of the crap group.
- Der Kaiser

- 22sabresQ

Easy 9 mil per for a sniper of that caliber, Sabres don’t want him

God that hurts.

I was the biggest Girgensons fan in the world. I really thought with the right center he could be our poor man's version of Lucic or Dustin Brown. He had that 30 pt season in only 60 games.
- JVince11

And who plays those other defensive minutes???

They don’t just turn into offensive zone time bc u pull Girgs or Larsson off the ice
- jdfitz77

Add talent and balance the roster so the minutes can be applied more evenly in terms of zone starts, and play the 4th line closer to 10 minutes a night.

This is not a controversial statement: Girgensons shouldn't play 14 minutes a night.

I'm not talking about last year. Last year is over