That's a (frank)ing robbery by NYR As if having a big market attractive location, they also get to absolutely STEAL a guy as good as Trouba. Accelerates the rebuild real fast!
- MaximumBone

Trouba is a good dman but i think you might be exaggerating. Hes not THAT good. And he will demand top dollar too, he always has. Its not like its fast tracking rebuilding by years. or even one year. But it's a good teade and good pickup. Good luck signing him long term. New york or similar isbwhat hes been asking for, for quite some time.

Trouba is a good dman but i think you might be exaggerating. Hes not THAT good. And he will demand top dollar too, he always has. Its not like its fast tracking rebuilding by years. or even one year. But it's a good teade and good pickup. Good luck signing him long term. New york or similar isbwhat hes been asking for, for quite some time.
- prock

What worries me is I think on some accounts you are right. I've said since the start Trouba is a #2 or 3 type Dman. For what we gave up, it's 100% worth the trade. Even someone who didn't really want Trouba has to admit that. What still worries me is what it is going to cost to sign him.

Here is another interesting possibility, do you guys think that we got Trouba with a chance of flipping him at the deadline?

we must not fully grasp the cap hell sum teams have put themselves in,Chevy aint a dope,the statement which is misleading is "other teams offered better talent ?
Yes but with a contract ,Winny cant afford what they have now, getting a top 20 1st rder & a possible D man ready in Pionk may have been best for Winny now,
I felt Pionk had that Boby Orr end to end goal early in season and had a best 1st half possible for him ,BUT in long run he cant grind and still produce as a top 4 must do, we will see ,maybe partnerd with a better talent and using him on 2nd PP unit
they may have 2 pieces in there line up instead of less if they traded with $$$
very little cap issue there , i see the reasoning
I wonder like Tor. after seeing this deal are shaking in there boots with so much talent to sign & such a big hole on D to solve..& No $$ to do it
I D K but this summer just got great , and its only gonna get better as all the warts come out with the draft friday ,teams that need to manuever there cap $$ & talent to sign the critical moves BUT they cant do all of them , cant wait to see who falls form the squeeze plays happening... GREAT STUFF

How does S J sign Karlsson ? whats gonna happen there is worth watching alone ?
there must be 5-10 teams in the same boat as
Winny ,Tor,Pitt,Edm, Cal.,Vegas,T B thats off the top of my head ,didnt scrutinize

whats gonna happen with expansion draft &stocking Seattle like Vegas ?
O M G better not have the G M meeting in a high rise building with windows
you never know
teams better watch out or the next 2 seasons the power base will shift

So one thing I have yet to see any mention of is the fact that Peg got back their own 1st. Ever think they want it for an offersheet?

Interesting article by Brooks

https://nypost.com/2019/0...-lundqvist-trade-partner/

So one thing I have yet to see any mention of is the fact that Peg got back their own 1st. Ever think they want it for an offersheet?
- MeltingPlastic

no because if they sign someone to an offer sheet it will be after the draft on friday, free agency doesn't start until July 1st

What worries me is I think on some accounts you are right. I've said since the start Trouba is a #2 or 3 type Dman. For what we gave up, it's 100% worth the trade. Even someone who didn't really want Trouba has to admit that. What still worries me is what it is going to cost to sign him.

Here is another interesting possibility, do you guys think that we got Trouba with a chance of flipping him at the deadline?
- 2sticks1puck

Using the blues as an example, it’s obvious that you need great #2 and #3 guys on top of a good #1. I get that he’s not a top 10 defender in the league, but he’s no doubt in the “elite” tier of #2/3 guys.

I, personally, was not a fan of trading for him. I thought we’d be giving up multiple assets and it would be painful. This deal is so good, you can’t possibly say it’s not good.

I think a deal is on the way. Gorton seemed to have a number in his head and a good idea for what he’s looking for.

The Brady Skjei and Trouba friendship is real. Skjei said in an interview that he and Jake have been best friends for the last 8 years.

So one thing I have yet to see any mention of is the fact that Peg got back their own 1st. Ever think they want it for an offersheet?
- MeltingPlastic

Heck no, they don't have the money for Laine or Connor --- an offer sheet from the Jets would be unexpected.

Using the blues as an example, it’s obvious that you need great #2 and #3 guys on top of a good #1. I get that he’s not a top 10 defender in the league, but he’s no doubt in the “elite” tier of #2/3 guys.

I, personally, was not a fan of trading for him. I thought we’d be giving up multiple assets and it would be painful. This deal is so good, you can’t possibly say it’s not good.

I think a deal is on the way. Gorton seemed to have a number in his head and a good idea for what he’s looking for.

The Brady Skjei and Trouba friendship is real. Skjei said in an interview that he and Jake have been best friends for the last 8 years.
- Bean_Dip

hockey wise, they are the perfect yin-yang too, Skjei lefty, Trouba righty, same exact age, both 6-3 200 plus pounds

this is our go-to pairing for the next 5 years, hiccups and all

Using the blues as an example, it’s obvious that you need great #2 and #3 guys on top of a good #1. I get that he’s not a top 10 defender in the league, but he’s no doubt in the “elite” tier of #2/3 guys.

I, personally, was not a fan of trading for him. I thought we’d be giving up multiple assets and it would be painful. This deal is so good, you can’t possibly say it’s not good.

I think a deal is on the way. Gorton seemed to have a number in his head and a good idea for what he’s looking for.

The Brady Skjei and Trouba friendship is real. Skjei said in an interview that he and Jake have been best friends for the last 8 years.
- Bean_Dip

Skeji Trouba
Lindgren Fox

BFF blueline

Yeah, I think there is a good chance that a deal gets done quickly. I might be crazy, but I could see there being like a 3-4 yr deal which gives us some commitment, but also lets him explore UFA sooner. Seems like it would benefit both sides.

Honestly, I would test trotting out Shatty on the left side. On the right we would still have ADA, Trouba, and Fox. I think a SHatty-ADA top pairing would be pretty solid. Metrics have those two as our best d men last year by a country mile.
- 2sticks1puck

The acquisition of Trouba likely means a buyout of either, first Shatty, or second in Smith, and even greater so if they are serious on signing Panarin.

If not buying out Shatty, who like Smith, they failed to find a trade partner for, despite being willing to retain half their remaining contracts, rather than using Shatty to play his opposite side on the back line, where he could possibly struggle even greater defensively, maybe they could convince him to play the wing, as they did last season with Smith. He certainly has more offensive skills than Smith, with Smith also being the less costly cap hit wise to buy out, (& in key by about $3M less during that 2nd of four buyout years alone). In addition, Shatty's defensive responsibilities and strains will be somewhat relieved as a winger from what they would be if still part of the back line.

Skeji Trouba
Lindgren Fox

BFF blueline

Yeah, I think there is a good chance that a deal gets done quickly. I might be crazy, but I could see there being like a 3-4 yr deal which gives us some commitment, but also lets him explore UFA sooner. Seems like it would benefit both sides.
- 2sticks1puck

it's crazy when you think about it, there are a lot of young prospects in the pipeline on the blue line like Hajek, Lundkvist, Lindgren, Rykov, Reunanen, Keane and not a whole lot of spots

DeAngelo is still here and Staal, Smith and Shatty are all still in the way as of today

the depth is something else

The acquisition of Trouba likely means a buyout of either, first Shatty, or second in Smith, and even greater so if they are serious on signing Panarin.

If not buying out Shatty, who like Smith, they failed to find a trade partner for, despite being willing to retain half their remaining contracts, rather than using Shatty to play his opposite side on the back line, where he could possibly struggle even greater defensively, maybe they could convince him to play the wing, as they did last season with Smith. He certainly has more offensive skills than Smith, with Smith also being the less costly cap hit wise to buy out, (& in key by about $3M less during that 2nd of four buyout years alone). In addition, Shatty's defensive responsibilities and strains will be somewhat relieved as a winger from what they would be if still part of the back line.
- RangerSaver

I'd still try Shatty out on the left. Him along with ADA being our best defenders last year wasn't an aberration, every metric shows that was the case. If you can get some value out of him in a trade, then sure let's explore that option. I know a left side of Shatty-Skeji-Hajek has the potential of being pretty good.

it's crazy when you think about it, there are a lot of young prospects in the pipeline on the blue line like Hajek, Lundkvist, Lindgren, Rykov, Reunanen, Keane and not a whole lot of spots

DeAngelo is still here and Staal, Smith and Shatty are all still in the way as of today

the depth is something else
- jimbro83

The rumor mill is flowing that we are far from being done. I'm excited to see what other moves we could potentially do that aren't even on our radar.

I'd still try Shatty out on the left. Him along with ADA being our best defenders last year wasn't an aberration, every metric shows that was the case. If you can get some value out of him in a trade, then sure let's explore that option. I know a left side of Shatty-Skeji-Hajek has the potential of being pretty good.
- 2sticks1puck

I don't think this would happen if Staal is still here

Interesting article by Brooks

https://nypost.com/2019/0...-lundqvist-trade-partner/


- rrentz

I mentioned that earlier. But Brooks also assumes that the Sharks will be able to first find a trade partner for their current #1 starter in Martin Jones, and to pick up all his remaining contract in full for the next 5 years at a $5.75M annual cap hit, in order for Hank to be willing to go there.

Brooks also has no mention as to who would be the Sharks #1 starter after the two remaining seasons of Hank's contract expires, when he will be age 39 that March.

Using the blues as an example, it’s obvious that you need great #2 and #3 guys on top of a good #1. I get that he’s not a top 10 defender in the league, but he’s no doubt in the “elite” tier of #2/3 guys.

I, personally, was not a fan of trading for him. I thought we’d be giving up multiple assets and it would be painful. This deal is so good, you can’t possibly say it’s not good.

I think a deal is on the way. Gorton seemed to have a number in his head and a good idea for what he’s looking for.

The Brady Skjei and Trouba friendship is real. Skjei said in an interview that he and Jake have been best friends for the last 8 years.
- Bean_Dip

Fair points. But, let's say until we see something telling us different that this elite 2nd pairing guy is our #1. I think that is more what the excitement is about. No one is calling him Bobby Orr. Just the best option we have right now! And, as you stated, it cost us MUCH less than any of us expected.

What worries me is I think on some accounts you are right. I've said since the start Trouba is a #2 or 3 type Dman. For what we gave up, it's 100% worth the trade. Even someone who didn't really want Trouba has to admit that. What still worries me is what it is going to cost to sign him.

Here is another interesting possibility, do you guys think that we got Trouba with a chance of flipping him at the deadline?
- 2sticks1puck

I think hes probably a number 2. He will clearly get the chance to prove himself this year.

But i suspect he will demand he is worth 7 or 8 million.

hockey wise, they are the perfect yin-yang too, Skjei lefty, Trouba righty, same exact age, both 6-3 200 plus pounds

this is our go-to pairing for the next 5 years, hiccups and all
- jimbro83

In so many ways, trouba is a great fit for NYR and the NYR is a great fit for him.

Fair points. But, let's say until we see something telling us different that this elite 2nd pairing guy is our #1. I think that is more what the excitement is about. No one is calling him Bobby Orr. Just the best option we have right now! And, as you stated, it cost us MUCH less than any of us expected.
- Tonybere

In 6 hours we went from having to trade Nils and Buch, to just Pionk. Sort of absurd isn't it?

I mentioned that earlier. But Brooks also assumes that the Sharks will be able to first find a trade partner for their current #1 starter in Martin Jones, and to pick up all his remaining contract in full for the next 5 years at a $5.75M annual cap hit, in order for Hank to be willing to go there.

Brooks also has no mention as to who would be the Sharks #1 starter after the two remaining seasons of Hank's contract expires, when he will be age 39 that March.
- RangerSaver

Somehow Brooks wrote an even more absurd article than yesterday. Why wouldn't the Sharks want Georgie instead?

#TBLightning re-sign Braydon Coburn to a two year deal ($1.7 million AAV).

I don’t think they’re done by a long shot, but let’s say nothing else changes, where’s our weakness?

Kreider Zib Kravtsov
Buch Chytil Kakko
Andersson Howden/Strome Lemeuix

Skjei Trouba
Hajek ADA
Staal Fox

will leave this blog up for a while longer, then post the Montreal pick in the mock draft and I have the Vancouver one in hand as well.

If this word was true via a tweet I saw late last night, but can't recall the site it was initially tweeted on and linked, word was that Trouba gave the Jets at some earlier unspecified point, a list of teams he would be willing to sign a new contract with if traded to them. One of those teams was the Rangers, which may possibly explain why the Jets may have accepted their offer, despite rumors (if also true) of other teams making higher trade offers.

In addition, I saw word if also true, where Trouba's wife is preparing to begin her internship after graduating from medical school. Maybe New York suits her career interests very well.