After the parade, stuff like this feels so insucificant
- RogerRoeper

Should I google that word, or is it a spelling mistake? 🥺

well, Dreger has himself well covered... didn't he start out last fall with 10M offer sheets for Marner, which escalated to 13+ during the early part of the season when Nylander was holding out...

Dreger fed that narrative for months...

if there are going to be offer sheets, it is going to be for guys who are less expensive and which don't result in 4 first rounders...

there will be NO Offer Sheet Bedlam!
- BorjeFan4Ever

The 2019 and 2020 drafts look really nice early on, I think that if a team was to offer sheet, they would need to be very secure in their position.

Nylander is a steal.
- Steven_Seagull

🥺

The 2019 and 2020 drafts look really nice early on, I think that if a team was to offer sheet, they would need to be very secure in their position.
- AdamFrench

Burke circa 2008 secure or dorion 2018 secure?

Burke circa 2008 secure or dorion 2018 secure?
- Tumbleweed

2008 baby. I will overpay because...er...my ego?

Duubass fired yet?

The Leafs have 8 million in cap space.

Marleau, Zaitsev and Brown should all be traded.

Horton on LTIR.

That's up to 26.5 in cap space.

Should be alright.
- JohnFergusonJr

Marner 11
Kap 4
John 4
that's 19 of the 26.5 gone and they still need to fill 4 d spots and 4 forward spots. Massively difficult to get better next year.

And that's assuming all of them traded for picks and prospects with no cap hit coming back at all.

Did the Senators really take a 2nd round pick from SJ, via FLA, via the Hoffman trade (Doug Wilson finder's fee) as partial compensation for Erik Karlsson???

I love it

That's so Senatorly, I'd say it's not even (frank)ing funny, but I'm dying

Marleau to LA has apparently fizzled. Blake wants a reason to take the contract. Who would be best as a throw in? I don't think Brown is going to be enough.

Marleau to LA has apparently fizzled. Blake wants a reason to take the contract. Who would be best as a throw in? I don't think Brown is going to be enough.
- aminnes

Phaneuf.

serious question....

so the CAP goes down by 1M or hypothetically it goes up by 2Million.

does that change ANYTHING that Dubas has to do with

Zaitsev
Marleau or
Marner?

hint... no it does not
- BorjeFan4Ever

I think it does..

If the cap doesn't go up to $83M like projected, then yeah, it has a lot to do with those three..

What teams can afford to take on Marleau or Zaitsev, if the cap only goes up $1M?

Did the Senators really take a 2nd round pick from SJ, via FLA, via the Hoffman trade (Doug Wilson finder's fee) as partial compensation for Erik Karlsson???

I love it

That's so Senatorly, I'd say it's not even (frank)ing funny, but I'm dying
- RickJames77

Marner 11
Kap 4
John 4
that's 19 of the 26.5 gone and they still need to fill 4 d spots and 4 forward spots. Massively difficult to get better next year.

And that's assuming all of them traded for picks and prospects with no cap hit coming back at all.
- aminnes

If Marner wants 11, he can do so on another team.

Kapanen and Johnsson will (should) get deals similar to Brown and Hyman. 2.5 - 3.

If Marner wants 11, he can do so on another team.

Kapanen and Johnsson will (should) get deals similar to Brown and Hyman. 2.5 - 3.
- Steven_Seagull

Kap should get a bridge. 2-3 years at 3.5-3.75 imo.

If Marner wants 11, he can do so on another team.

Kapanen and Johnsson will (should) get deals similar to Brown and Hyman. 2.5 - 3.
- Steven_Seagull

I thought Elliott Freidman said, or rather believes that if Marner wants $11M, the Leafs want him to sign an 8 yr deal.

If Marner wants 11, he can do so on another team.

Kapanen and Johnsson will (should) get deals similar to Brown and Hyman. 2.5 - 3.
- Steven_Seagull

So even in a perfect world where Marleau, Brown, and Z are traded with no cap hit coming back, and Marner signing for 9 million, and K and J signing for 3 each thats still less than 12 million to fill 8 roster spots including 4 d men. This perfect scenario of course isn't happening either. Massive challenges.

Does it really matter who he submits? I don’t see him moving his family to whoever will take him.

He’s pretty much retired and thanking the leafs everyday.
- bryant

Apparently Colorado

Marner 11
Kap 4
John 4
that's 19 of the 26.5 gone and they still need to fill 4 d spots and 4 forward spots. Massively difficult to get better next year.
- aminnes

Matthews, Auston
Tavares, John
Nylander, William
Kadri, Nazem
Hyman, Zach
Moore, Trevor
Petan, Nicolas
Gauthier, Frédérik
Johnsson, Andreas
Kapanen, Kasperi
Marner, Mitchell
Rielly, Morgan
Muzzin, Jake
Dermott, Travis
Andersen, Frederik


it's not 4 d spots and 4 forwards. they have 11 forwards and 3 d making up those numbers. They need 3 D, 2 more forwards, and potentially another spot, either a 7th dman or 13th forward. plus a backup.

NHL roster minimum is 21, max is 23. Technically they could go wit the minimum for a while, and put just the 3 D and 2 forwards plus backup on the active roster. until an injury hits which would open up the space.

So even in a perfect world where Marleau, Brown, and Z are traded with no cap hit coming back, and Marner signing for 9 million, and K and J signing for 3 each thats still less than 12 million to fill 8 roster spots including 4 d men. This perfect scenario of course isn't happening either. Massive challenges.
- aminnes

“Massive challenges”


Not really.

2008 baby. I will overpay because...er...my ego?
- AdamFrench

I just dropped this dreger to make some room for my lunch.

holland trades 2 1sts and a 2nd for ekblad

Matthews, Auston
Tavares, John
Nylander, William
Kadri, Nazem
Hyman, Zach
Moore, Trevor
Petan, Nicolas
Gauthier, Frédérik
Johnsson, Andreas
Kapanen, Kasperi
Marner, Mitchell
Rielly, Morgan
Muzzin, Jake
Dermott, Travis
Andersen, Frederik


it's not 4 d spots and 4 forwards. they have 11 forwards and 3 d making up those numbers. They need 3 D, 2 more forwards, and potentially another spot, either a 7th dman or 13th forward. plus a backup.

NHL roster minimum is 21, max is 23. Technically they could go wit the minimum for a while, and put just the 3 D and 2 forwards plus backup on the active roster. until an injury hits which would open up the space.
- prock

Who fills in for Dermott and Hyman to start the year?

Who fills in for Dermott and Hyman to start the year?
- PatC80

Rosen/Borgman/Kivihalme - Marchment/Bracco/Korshkov/Mikheyev/Engvall/Brooks

Marner 11
Kap 4
John 4
that's 19 of the 26.5 gone and they still need to fill 4 d spots and 4 forward spots. Massively difficult to get better next year.

And that's assuming all of them traded for picks and prospects with no cap hit coming back at all.
- aminnes

Years matter. Kap and Johnsson are 2.5-3.0 on 1 or 2 year deals. If the Leafs can free up enough space to sign them to longer term then ya, maybe they get up to 4+. But Leafs have all the leverage.

They have to zero in on comparables. Is Marner closer to McDavid or Matthews or Eichel or Draisatl or Hall/Eberle/Gaudreau...

If he's Draisatl he's $9.3 x 8 years. If he's Eichel he's $10.3 x 8. If he draws a line in the sand and says he's Matthews then start working the phones to see if any GM agrees.

I still think the saw off is less term (5/6 yrs) at about $9.5.

Matthews, Auston
Tavares, John
Nylander, William
Kadri, Nazem
Hyman, Zach
Moore, Trevor
Petan, Nicolas
Gauthier, Frédérik
Johnsson, Andreas
Kapanen, Kasperi
Marner, Mitchell
Rielly, Morgan
Muzzin, Jake
Dermott, Travis
Andersen, Frederik


it's not 4 d spots and 4 forwards. they have 11 forwards and 3 d making up those numbers. They need 3 D, 2 more forwards, and potentially another spot, either a 7th dman or 13th forward. plus a backup.

NHL roster minimum is 21, max is 23. Technically they could go wit the minimum for a while, and put just the 3 D and 2 forwards plus backup on the active roster. until an injury hits which would open up the space.
- prock

They still don't have a backup goalie in your scenario either another spot I forgot to ad. So okay, they take a gamble and roll with the minimum and hope for an injury? How in the world are they better than last year? How are they signing 3 and 2 plus a backup of any quality with 12 million. And again, that's under the most lucky circumstance where they move Marleau, Brown and Z and get no cap hit back. Even in a totally unrealistic crazy scenario they are screwed cap wise right here. And then have to hope for an injury while already having the minimum lineup? What?

Rosen/Borgman/Kivihalme - Marchment/Bracco/Korshkov/Mikheyev/Engvall/Brooks
- Steven_Seagull

You're right... A lot of changes still have to be made.