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The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:55 PM ET
Toskala.
- Atomic Wedgie


Ya, more universal groans for him.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:56 PM ET
I'm just going to say it:

I hope we find at a way to get Gardiner on a short term contract.

There, I said it.

Or typed it.

- Atomic Wedgie


did you change your meds this morning?

looks like the Flyers GM is mixing things up... three concrete defense moves already.

meanwhile... back at the Raptors celebration... Doogie Howser Dubas is asleep at the switch

I sincerely hope he isn't "Waiting for calls"... like he waited to get a deal with Holdoutlander...

"hello Brendan... can you tell me where Doogie is?"...

please tell him its dinner time and he needs to come in - stop playing...



Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:57 PM ET
I am sure that was difficult for you, but I believe it was necessary.
- Aetherial

Why would it be difficult? The guy is a raging misogynist.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:58 PM ET
Larry Murphy has to be on that point.
- bixll


I think Aki has him beat. Larry and Komisarek definitely 2nd pairing though.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm just furious that the guy showed up out of shape after holding out.

My daughter had a funny one today:

Let's get Kessel back, and have a Kessel-Kadri-Nylander line, so that the Leafs fans can direct all their hate.

I suggested we get back Phaneuf and Aki Berg to play as a unit, but she had no idea who Aki Berg was.

So I grounded her.

- Atomic Wedgie


c'mon Wedgie... get with the times... use Mike Kostka or Brett Lebda.

Aki Berg is from a different century

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
If you look at some players salaries..... Willies is bargain in comparison to some of the aged vets deals still on the books.
- bixll


Hopefully, play him with Matthews and nobody will complain I guess.


The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
c'mon Wedgie... get with the times... use Mike Kostka or Brett Lebda.

Aki Berg is from a different century


- BorjeFan4Ever


Admittedly I had to look but 2001 is this century.
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

Jun 18 @ 1:00 PM ET
Could always be a lot worse. Some were hoping that the Leafs would sign that overpaid clown.
- GreatGigInTheSky


Agreed. I'm glad the Hawks stayed far away from him. The Hawks already have a 60 point defensemen..
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:02 PM ET
Hopefully, play him with Matthews and nobody will complain I guess.
- Garnie


If he plays like he did at the worlds, bargain...
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:24 PM ET
SJ just cut 3.8M from the Cap and they got a 2nd and a 3rd rd pick for a 32 defenseman with one year left...

Seems like the Leafs have to take on more salary from other teams just to trade guys like Zaitsev/Marleau/Brown.

- PatC80


Braun is pretty Meh

so if they gave that up for 1 season of Braun ..thats ungood
if they plan to re-sign him then NZ has to have similar value

PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
Braun is pretty Meh

so if they gave that up for 1 season of Braun ..thats ungood
if they plan to re-sign him then NZ has to have similar value

- senstroll


Exactly..

I hope we can get something good for Zaitsev. I know he asked for a trade, which could impact the return, I guess.

Zaitsev and Brown to Edmonton for Larsson?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 1:34 PM ET
If he plays like he did at the worlds, bargain...
- bixll

We can all hope.....if he plays 3c and puts up 40 points it’s a real waste of cap space.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 1:35 PM ET
c'mon Wedgie... get with the times... use Mike Kostka or Brett Lebda.

Aki Berg is from a different century


- BorjeFan4Ever

Nobody hated Kostka or Lebda.

Hell, I couldn't pick them out of a police lineup.
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
Exactly..

I hope we can get something good for Zaitsev. I know he asked for a trade, which could impact the return, I guess.

Zaitsev and Brown to Edmonton for Larsson?

- PatC80


Chiarelli got fired, remember?

If the net yield for Taylor (frank)ing Hall ends up being Zaitsev and Brown, Edmonton may as well fold the team.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:36 PM ET
Chiarelli got fired, remember?

If the net yield for Taylor (frank)ing Hall ends up being Zaitsev and Brown, Edmonton may as well fold the team.

- JohnFergusonJr



Holland wants to move on from that trade.. Kinda like how Boston did when they traded Seguin and Hamilton.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:42 PM ET
did you change your meds this morning?

looks like the Flyers GM is mixing things up... three concrete defense moves already.

meanwhile... back at the Raptors celebration... Doogie Howser Dubas is asleep at the switch

I sincerely hope he isn't "Waiting for calls"... like he waited to get a deal with Holdoutlander...

"hello Brendan... can you tell me where Doogie is?"...

please tell him its dinner time and he needs to come in - stop playing...




- BorjeFan4Ever



Maybe, just maybe Dubas is waiting for the NHL to decide on a salary cap for the 2019/20 season?
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Holland wants to move on from that trade.. Kinda like how Boston did when they traded Seguin and Hamilton.
- PatC80


A) You don't know that

B) Even if he did, making an even pooptier trade doesn't help anybody

C) Boston got (frank)ed in both those deals so maybe there's a lesson to be learned; don't make a bad trade even worse
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
We can all hope.....if he plays 3c and puts up 40 points it’s a real waste of cap space.
- Garnie

Agreed
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 18 @ 1:44 PM ET
Maybe, just maybe Dubas is waiting for the NHL to decide on a salary cap for the 2019/20 season?
- PatC80

Or he has a number of spectacular trades already worked out, and he's just waiting to announce them because he doesn't want to steal the thunder of his corporate brothers, the Raptors.

That's totally what I think.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
A) You don't know that

B) Even if he did, making an even pooptier trade doesn't help anybody

C) Boston got (frank)ed in both those deals so maybe there's a lesson to be learned; don't make a bad trade even worse

- JohnFergusonJr


A) It could happen,

B) If it did, that would be great

C) It's good for us, who cares about Edmonton
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:45 PM ET
Maybe, just maybe Dubas is waiting for the NHL to decide on a salary cap for the 2019/20 season?
- PatC80


making moves for the sake of it..

I really dont like what Philly is doing.
Pretty sure they will suck again and then will be standing there going.. what happened? we fixed the D
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:46 PM ET
Or he has a number of spectacular trades already worked out, and he's just waiting to announce them because he doesn't want to steal the thunder of his corporate brothers, the Raptors.

That's totally what I think.

- Atomic Wedgie


What a guy that Dubas is... Always trying to help the Raptors build up an even larger fanbase..
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:47 PM ET
making moves for the sake of it..

I really dont like what Philly is doing.
Pretty sure they will suck again and then will be standing there going.. what happened? we fixed the D

- senstroll



In Philly's case, they now have 8 defenseman. Maybe they trade one, or two..

Also, I still don't understand the Gudas for Niskanen trade.

senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Jun 18 @ 1:51 PM ET
Tyler Myers???

On Myers, I think the market will dictate he’s worth around $6.5-million to $7-million a season on a six- to seven-year deal.


https://theathletic.com/1...o-reason-to-alter-course/


Holy poop...Run away ..Fast from that
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Tyler Myers???



https://theathletic.com/1...o-reason-to-alter-course/


Holy poop...Run away ..Fast from that

- senstroll



Seems like the perfect signing for the Flyers..
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