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bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
Justin Braun traded to flyers from sj
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
I agree. Doesn't mean I think any goalie outside of Price is worth that though. To be honest, I wouldn't even want price on my team because of that contract. It has ripple effects up and down your roster.
- RickJames77

Goalies be weird. Nobody wants to pay them, but they are almost always the most important player in the game
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
I agree. Doesn't mean I think any goalie outside of Price is worth that though. To be honest, I wouldn't even want price on my team because of that contract. It has ripple effects up and down your roster.
- RickJames77


Prices health issue would scare the crap out of me if I am his GM
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Justin Braun traded to flyers from sj
- bryant

But...Flyboys fans said they have the most and bestest young defense in history. Why they be acquiring d?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Goalies be weird. Nobody wants to pay them, but they are almost always the most important player in the game
- AdamFrench


Cap issues are real too. Must be careful with your dollars and a tenders age. Jmo
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
he's out of position most of the time so yes, he is often on the right side
- Symba007


bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Jun 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
But...Flyboys fans said they have the most and bestest young defense in history. Why they be acquiring d?
- AdamFrench

Ghost is probably gone now.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jun 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
It's all a disaster!
Needed Lou here to give 40 point players 6 million.

- RogerRoeper


ya, he could have gave a guy $15m over 12 mths for .5 point/game.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:00 PM ET
Ghost is probably gone now.
- bryant

Had a bad year
Didn't watch them more than a few games, but his play and his stats sucked from what i have seen lately.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:01 PM ET
Goalies be weird. Nobody wants to pay them, but they are almost always the most important player in the game
- AdamFrench

Yeah, this checks out
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
Had a bad year
Didn't watch them more than a few games, but his play and his stats sucked from what i have seen lately.

- bixll

I watched a few of their games and he was a tire fire. I don't think I'd give up on him after a down year though.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
ya, he could have gave a guy $15m over 12 mths for .5 point/game.
- Garnie


If you look at some players salaries..... Willies is bargain in comparison to some of the aged vets deals still on the books.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:02 PM ET
ya, he could have gave a guy $15m over 12 mths for .5 point/game.
- Garnie


Who do you want more, Nylander or Eberle or Nelson next season? I know the answer.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
If you look at some players salaries..... Willies is bargain in comparison to some of the aged vets deals still on the books.
- bixll


Yup. Never had less than 61 points in a full season and is 22. Nelson is 28 and has hit 50 points once and got 6 million...
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
If you look at some players salaries..... Willies is bargain in comparison to some of the aged vets deals still on the books.
- bixll

Pretty much any UFA signing is a bad contract waiting to happen.
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:03 PM ET
I watched a few of their games and he was a tire fire. I don't think I'd give up on him after a down year though.
- RickJames77


Is it the player or the team system.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
It's all a disaster!
Needed Lou here to give 40 point players 6 million.

- RogerRoeper


we'll see
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Pretty much any UFA signing is a bad contract waiting to happen.
- RickJames77


So many older players overpaid. Some twice, bought out then overpaid again. Lolol
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:05 PM ET
Pretty much any UFA signing is a bad contract waiting to happen.
- RickJames77


Eberle and Nelson are passing their prime years and are starting 5-6 year deals. We have not seen close to the best of Willy
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:06 PM ET
we'll see
- Aetherial


Should have kept the 78 year-old GM who overpays supporting players terribly.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jun 18 @ 12:07 PM ET
Is it the player or the team system.
- bixll

My big issue with him was on the PP. He was pretty terrible QBing a powerplay that on paper seems to have the talent to have a good one. Maybe their PP scheme was just poop, but outside of his offense he's never really been known for his defensive acumen. Didn't they go with 5 forwards on their first PP for a week or two?
bixll
Location: New Glasgow, NS
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
My big issue with him was on the PP. He was pretty terrible QBing a powerplay that on paper seems to have the talent to have a good one. Maybe their PP scheme was just poop, but outside of his offense he's never really been known for his defensive acumen. Didn't they go with 5 forwards on their first PP for a week or two?
- RickJames77



Agreed, not sure about the 5 forwards.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Jun 18 @ 12:10 PM ET
I watched a few of their games and he was a tire fire. I don't think I'd give up on him after a down year though.
- RickJames77



SJ just cut 3.8M from the Cap and they got a 2nd and a 3rd rd pick for a 32 defenseman with one year left...

Seems like the Leafs have to take on more salary from other teams just to trade guys like Zaitsev/Marleau/Brown.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
SJ just cut 3.8M from the Cap and they got a 2nd and a 3rd rd pick for a 32 defenseman with one year left...

Seems like the Leafs have to take on more salary from other teams just to trade guys like Zaitsev/Marleau/Brown.

- PatC80


Zaitsev and Marleau maybe, but Brown ain't no cap dump. Not at his age, salary and production given his role.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:12 PM ET
I thought Braun would be a guy the leafs should look at. Only one year and RD. SJ needed to unload cap so picks is all they wanted.

Coburn signs in TB for 1.7 for 2 years.
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