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Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:35 PM ET
The suspense is killing me.
- Reubenkincade

Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:36 PM ET
Some things are better left unanswered macky

Still waiting on teppenyaki and a sapporo my friend. Parental leave in 2 weeks, no excuses after that.

- Codes1087

I’m in, let’s see what happens coming up.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 17 @ 11:41 PM ET
Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning

- Makita




It was way easier when it was just the circle jerkers and drama queens.

It's a complicated world Bro, I hope you have some R&R booked to help you cope with the next couple weeks.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 17 @ 11:43 PM ET
I'll admit, I'm generally pessimistic when it comes to these kids and he looked pretty dynamic at times last year but there's no way in hell he's turning the PP into one of the best in the league by himself.

Edler has his faults but he was pretty good last year on the PP. Teams at least need to respect his shot, which won't happen with Hughes.

Do you think Hughes gets the 17 PP points next year on the PP that Edler did?

That was in only 56 games so prorated to 25 or so?

- belcherbd


Just watch and enjoy. I’ve never seen anyone do it like Quinn. No joke. He’ll be even better with Pettersson to play off of & Boeser teed up.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:48 PM ET
So Benning won't sign Edler whom he is familiar with long term but we are expecting Trouba long term?


I am going to wait to see who we actually do sign or trade for first .
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:51 PM ET
Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning

- Makita


Summary:

We are a gaggle of hens aka never satisfied
😂😂
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:53 PM ET
JB are you looking for a D trade?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:57 PM ET
I fully expect our D will look pretty similar to last year but with a twist or 2. One good thing is there is nowhere to go but go up.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:58 PM ET
JB are you looking for a D trade?
- VanHockeyGuy



Trouba is going to cost the Rangers about 8.0 and he is worth it reputation wise but I don't think skill wise he is worth it. I am aware of his point totals 8/50 . I have a feeling those numbers will go down . Nice pick up though for NYR
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:00 AM ET
I fully expect our D will look pretty similar to last year but with a twist or 2. One good thing is there is nowhere to go but go up.
- Nighthawk



I have a feeling either Rafferty or Woo might make it out of camp. Just a feeling .
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Jun 18 @ 12:01 AM ET
Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning

- Makita


All fair points.
Although some may give Nighthawk a bit of a hard time, myself included at times, he is pretty good at dishing it out as well.
I don't think anyone could ever question his dedication, as a fan, to our favourite team.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:03 AM ET
Just watch and enjoy. I’ve never seen anyone do it like Quinn. No joke. He’ll be even better with Pettersson to play off of & Boeser teed up.
- DrChristianTroy


We'll see, I certainly hope he'll prove effective right away.

Do you think he will outperform guys like Makar and Heiskanen.

Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:04 AM ET
Trouba is going to cost the Rangers about 8.0 and he is worth it reputation wise but I don't think skill wise he is worth it. I am aware of his point totals 8/50 . I have a feeling those numbers will go down . Nice pick up though for NYR
- VANTEL

I think there was 30 or 31 defensemen with 40 or more points in the entire league, at 8 million Trouba is worth it even if his offence comes down a bit. He’s only 25 years old too.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:05 AM ET
All fair points.
Although some may give Nighthawk a bit of a hard time, myself included at times, he is pretty good at dishing it out as well.
I don't think anyone could ever question his dedication, as a fan, to our favourite team.

- Reubenkincade

belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 18 @ 12:05 AM ET
Trouba is going to cost the Rangers about 8.0 and he is worth it reputation wise but I don't think skill wise he is worth it. I am aware of his point totals 8/50 . I have a feeling those numbers will go down . Nice pick up though for NYR
- VANTEL


I think he's a good player but not a #1 guy. It's a good trade for the rags but IMO he's pretty overrated on HB.

Had we of moved the 10th and Stetcher or Joulevi for him I would of been disappointed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:10 AM ET
Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning

- Makita

This


Nighthawk gets constantly blasted for throwing out suggestions to improve the team but almost no one who rips him offers actual solutions, just blanket statements that can’t be criticized
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:19 AM ET
What were you expecting them to get for him?
- manvanfan

Closer to Subban or Ek return. He’s coming off of a career year. 50 points and being a shut down dman is a pretty big deal. Should have been multiple picks/prospects imo
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:21 AM ET
We'll see, I certainly hope he'll prove effective right away.

Do you think he will outperform guys like Makar and Heiskanen.

- belcherbd


Makar & Heiskanen will score more goals, but Hughes will have highlight reel possessions leading to mind blowing assists on a nightly basis once they let him run with that opportunity. I would put $ on him having a better first full season than Rasmus Dahlin if given Edler’s PP1 mins (fewer goals, more points).
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:21 AM ET
I fully expect our D will look pretty similar to last year but with a twist or 2. One good thing is there is nowhere to go but go up.
- Nighthawk

Looks like Edler is gone. Down is a distinct possibility.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:23 AM ET
Trouba is going to cost the Rangers about 8.0 and he is worth it reputation wise but I don't think skill wise he is worth it. I am aware of his point totals 8/50 . I have a feeling those numbers will go down . Nice pick up though for NYR
- VANTEL


Just read that other GM's are confused with the deal, they think they offered more. Chevy must be high on Pionk.


Trouba wanted to play in the East in the US so didn't make sense for other teams to pay up unless they just wanted to rent him for a year and then flip his RFA rights.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 18 @ 12:24 AM ET
Looks like Edler is gone. Down is a distinct possibility.
- neem55


I wouldn't rule out the Edler situation yet. There's still 2 weeks for either side to give in.

I'm cool with letting him walk though.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 18 @ 12:26 AM ET
I wouldn't rule out the Edler situation yet. There's still 2 weeks for either side to give in.

I'm cool with letting him walk though.

- Nucker101

For sure. But it doesn’t look good. Dhaliwal is pretty on it.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 18 @ 12:27 AM ET
All fair points.
Although some may give Nighthawk a bit of a hard time, myself included at times, he is pretty good at dishing it out as well.
I don't think anyone could ever question his dedication, as a fan, to our favourite team.

- Reubenkincade


As much as I either agree or disagree with him, there isnt a poster on this site who is more consistent with his views or opinions than him, which I dont think anyone can take away from him.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 18 @ 12:28 AM ET
Nighthawk puts out multiple trade or acquisitions proposals as discussion points, he constantly is asking for others opinions. He takes a lot flack for constantly posting rosters or proposing trades and he is at times ridiculed.

Most of the posts against his proposals are to have patience and draft and develop. Then another team makes a trade, today Trouba, and the patient draft and develop crowd starts to criticize Benning for sitting on his hands while players get moved about.

The patient draft and develop crowd also want a complete overhaul of the backend, but under no circumstances are any of the defense man available desirable.

The whole narrative by most here is head spinning, get rid of Edler, Tanev, Hutton, Biega, do not sign Trouba, Gardiner, Myers, so that leaves Hughes and Stecher

Get rid of Granlund, Goldobin, Sutter, Beagle, Schaller, Spooner, and only use present prospects and possible draft picks from getting rid of the already mentioned, because Benning can’t be trusted to make a trade or sign a UFA.

As I said, fcuking head spinning

- Makita

I think what everyone wants is change and that ranges from hiring a President with experience to signing Panarin. I think we are just tired of this team spinning it's tires.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 18 @ 12:32 AM ET
I wouldn't rule out the Edler situation yet. There's still 2 weeks for either side to give in.

I'm cool with letting him walk though.

- Nucker101


Edler will sign whatever’s on the table when the time comes. He’s a beta’s beta.
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