The 2020 draft looks to have at least 10 very good players and several other good players.
Stay the course and no rushing the rebuild.
IMO
- Reubenkincade

Timo is only 1 piece & a definite good add if we got him. A very good RW isn’t usually available too often. As for top 10 i get you but it’s not a certainty nor could the pick pan out as good as Timo. If nothing else we keep our 1st if if not happening.

Which Miller?
- neem55

Barney.

Veteran leadership, etc.

Barney.

Veteran leadership, etc.
- YeOldTimer

Wojohowic for toughness lok

Meier only cost a 1st/3rd

Worthy risk imo
- Nighthawk

Hes had one really good season on a very good team. His stats the year before were good, not great. Why give up a 1st and a 3rd at this stage when draft picks are a crucial currency to us?

Barney.

Veteran leadership, etc.
- YeOldTimer

I just remembered Aaron Miller

Legendary Canuck

Any moves or signings we make has to consider the implications leading up to the Seattle E-draft.

7/3 is most likely

I’m fully on board with making moves sooner than later if it achieves an end goal of the top 6 is looking fairly set. Prospects in the pipeline are shaping up nicely.

The cap will be very important & imo using some of it is needed & not have so much as we stand.

Carol Schram: HockeyBuzz Mock Draft: What's next for the Canucks after the big trade?
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- Carol Schram

Sorry ,but you forgot to add Milans 6mill to the books...

Hes had one really good season on a very good team. His stats the year before were good, not great. Why give up a 1st and a 3rd at this stage when draft picks are a crucial currency to us?
- Codes1087

My eye test says he’s good. As for a 1st & 3rd they are not immediate help nor any guarantee. I’m expecting us to improve & not be picking top 10. If JB sees otherwise then that changes everything. Lastly i’ve no problem pilfering divisional rivals. Furthermore SJ is a foe not a friend.

Sorry ,but you forgot to add Milans 6mill to the books...
- oilpatch

That is a ding lol

My eye test says he’s good. As for a 1st & 3rd they are not immediate help nor any guarantee. I’m expecting us to improve & not be picking top 10. If JB sees otherwise then that changes everything. Lastly i’ve no problem pilfering divisional rivals. Furthermore SJ is a foe not a friend.
- Nighthawk

I'm not disputing that he is good, hes a very good player, I'm disputing the timing of offer sheeting a 22 year old and the cost to acquire him. 7.5 aav for a player who may have slightly inflated stats playing on a forward heavy team is a huge price to pay, draft picks aside. Again, I like Meier, but a 1st and a 3rd plus 7.5 is a big cost.

#staythecourse

Any moves or signings we make has to consider the implications leading up to the Seattle E-draft.

7/3 is most likely

I’m fully on board with making moves sooner than later if it achieves an end goal of the top 6 is looking fairly set. Prospects in the pipeline are shaping up nicely.

The cap will be very important & imo using some of it is needed & not have so much as we stand.
- Nighthawk

some of these fans are acting like JB sitting on his hands is magically going to improve this team

Hes had one really good season on a very good team. His stats the year before were good, not great. Why give up a 1st and a 3rd at this stage when draft picks are a crucial currency to us?
- Codes1087

Agreed.
2 more drafts, before this team should be considering any such moves, like this, if at all.
The talk from some, about the prospect pipeline looking good, is pretty far-fetched. IMO

some of these fans are acting like JB sitting on his hands is magically going to improve this team
- Nucker101

Patience is a 4 letter word that means not much. Lol

It’s how patience is used & all about timing when the opportunity arises. It’s not or never is a 100% strategy.

Agreed.
2 more drafts, before this team should be considering any such moves, like this, if at all.
The talk from some, about the prospect pipeline looking good, is pretty far-fetched. IMO
- Reubenkincade

I've always been of the mentality with the current state of the team, that we should be acquiring picks, not giving them out. The day will come when adding pieces at the price of picks to perfect the roster will come, but we just finished bottom 10 again, expediting this rebuild at the expense of the future is just a vicious circle of the past.

I'm not disputing that he is good, hes a very good player, I'm disputing the timing of offer sheeting a 22 year old and the cost to acquire him. 7.5 aav for a player who may have slightly inflated stats playing on a forward heavy team is a huge price to pay, draft picks aside. Again, I like Meier, but a 1st and a 3rd plus 7.5 is a big cost.

#staythecourse
- Codes1087

Yes & No

Stay the course is too stringent. It’s possible to do that & make improvements.
Imo the RFA market this year is a ripe time to make waves. UFA’s are a mine field but a savvy move or 2 could be good. Stay the course to me is add legit NHL talent & allow draftees to develop better & earn NHL spots.

I've always been of the mentality with the current state of the team, that we should be acquiring picks, not giving them out. The day will come when adding pieces at the price of picks to perfect the roster will come, but we just finished bottom 10 again, expediting this rebuild at the expense of the future is just a vicious circle of the past.
- Codes1087

The Q is if any adds are as good or better than picks. Leaping to the conclusion it expedites the rebuild is unfounded. We are more than a piece or 2 from contending.

some of these fans are acting like JB sitting on his hands is magically going to improve this team
- Nucker101

Sitting on his hands? Nah. Just avoid desperation UFA signings for stupid cap/term on sh!tty options. Go get Miller. (frank) Myers.

Yes & No

Stay the course is too stringent. It’s possible to do that & make improvements.
Imo the RFA market this year is a ripe time to make waves. UFA’s are a mine field but a savvy move or 2 could be good. Stay the course to me is add legit NHL talent & allow draftees to develop better & earn NHL spots.
- Nighthawk

I get what you're saying, but you're also somewhat contradicting yourself. You want to stay the course and have "draftees" develop and earn spots, but you are also saying at signing ufas (awarding spots) and giving away draft picks for RFAs. There has to be some balance. I do get what you are saying though. If we were 3 or 4 years in the future, I could probably get behind the idea of offer sheeting a good proven player and losing some picks for it, but at this stage of the Canucks, I just dont see the juice being worth the squeeze.

#staythecourse

The Q is if any adds are as good or better than picks. Leaping to the conclusion it expedites the rebuild is unfounded. We are more than a piece or 2 from contending.
- Nighthawk

I'd say the odds of landing an impactful player with 1st and 3rd round picks in 2020 is higher than timo Meier replicating his production on the Canucks, from what he did this year on the sharks

And if we are most than a timo Meier away (we are undoubtedly missing pieces on every line, forwards and D), than why are we paying a premium for him?

#staythecourse

Currently we are awaiting Demko to be ready to take the reins & be a starter. Most likely in 2yrs time from now.

In the meantime work is needed on the top 6 & top 4 D. D is an ongoing problem but not as far away as some might project. Much depends on what this offseason gets done. Turning the corner can be hard to see but it cannot be dragged out much longer. Sooner or later it has to happen. It all rests on what happens in the bear future & let the following years take their course.

Sitting on his hands? Nah. Just avoid desperation UFA signings for stupid cap/term on sh!tty options. Go get Miller. (frank) Myers.
- DrChristianTroy

Sagely indeed 👍

I get what you're saying, but you're also somewhat contradicting yourself. You want to stay the course and have "draftees" develop and earn spots, but you are also saying at signing ufas (awarding spots) and giving away draft picks for RFAs. There has to be some balance. I do get what you are saying though. If we were 3 or 4 years in the future, I could probably get behind the idea of offer sheeting a good proven player and losing some picks for it, but at this stage of the Canucks, I just dont see the juice being worth the squeeze.

#staythecourse
- Codes1087

Awarding spots to Panarin i can live with 😂
As for an RFA both Meier & Kapanen are not risks at the cost of thevpicks tgey would cost us IMO. I’d say the are good hedges vs unknowns. All i am saying is it’s a good time to explore moves whether they happen or not. Odds are our cap space can be very advantageous if used wisely.

If nothing big goes down its onto next year & do it all over again. These 2yrs leading up to the E-draft are a very important time for us & won’t come along again. Patience cannot hold back the team from making significant impacts. It’s a unique time & requires unique decisions.

Barney.

Veteran leadership, etc.
- YeOldTimer

......& feelings consultant

Awarding spots to Panarin i can live with 😂
As for an RFA both Meier & Kapanen are not risks at the cost of thevpicks tgey would cost us IMO. I’d say the are good hedges vs unknowns. All i am saying is it’s a good time to explore moves whether they happen or not. Odds are our cap space can be very advantageous if used wisely.

If nothing big goes down its onto next year & do it all over again. These 2yrs leading up to the E-draft are a very important time for us & won’t come along again. Patience cannot hold back the team from making significant impacts. It’s a unique time & requires unique decisions.
- Nighthawk

Our biggest impacts on the team have all derived from patience though

(Boeser/petey/horvat/hughes) were all impactful first rounders, all calibre players that could be lost on a simple offer sheet of a player like Meier/kapanen)

#staythecourse

Awarding spots to Panarin i can live with 😂
As for an RFA both Meier & Kapanen are not risks at the cost of thevpicks tgey would cost us IMO. I’d say the are good hedges vs unknowns. All i am saying is it’s a good time to explore moves whether they happen or not. Odds are our cap space can be very advantageous if used wisely.

If nothing big goes down its onto next year & do it all over again. These 2yrs leading up to the E-draft are a very important time for us & won’t come along again. Patience cannot hold back the team from making significant impacts. It’s a unique time & requires unique decisions.
- Nighthawk

In regards to the bolded, we do not know if any of the young players in Utica, ie; Lind, Gadjovich, MacEwen Jasek, Brisebois etc will be worth protecting.
By signing a couple RFA players, at the cost of picks, that wouldn't have to be protected, could force the team into losing a good player, instead of maybe a Sutter/Erickson type.