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YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:18 AM ET
Ehlers has jumped up high on TSN's trade board. I wonder what WPG is looking for in return.
- Rinosaur


RHD ...

at least what I read was that they were looking to trade Ehlers to CAR for one of the Hurricanes RHD.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:19 AM ET
Ehlers has jumped up high on TSN's trade board. I wonder what WPG is looking for in return.
- Rinosaur


One Rumor was one of either Dougie or Faulk from Carolina. Maybe they aren't that high on resigning Myers.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:20 AM ET
Ferland sucks balls.
- j.boyd919


Teams always overpay for average 3rd line production if it is packaged in a slightly physical body. I wouldn't touch him anything over 2.5 mill.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
Dreger just said cap is expected to be 82 Mill

There will be some serious scrambling going on. Maybe moving Phil to Arizona for picks/prospects could work. Then maybe snag JT Miller or Tyler Johnson from Tampa who is desperate to resign Point.

- burgh4life87

JT Miller would be a great addition really. Hope we can snag him without trading Phil. Can Tyler Johnson play wing as well?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
Tampa, SJ, VGK are all in trouble now. Plus Bob just said it could be less than 82. We could realistically just resign our RFA's and hit the season with cap space to play with. Tamps cannot. Point alone will cost them more than they have right now.
- burgh4life87


Point could cost them $8M, maybe a little more. Tampa is definitely in trouble no matter what happens. Tampa is going to have to give players away basically or trade them for package that includes a cheap replacement and heavy on futures.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:21 AM ET
JT Miller would be a great addition really. Hope we can snag him without trading Phil. Can Tyler Johnson play wing as well?
- Barnaby36


Someone would have to go. Pens are almost to the cap if its going to be 82 mill.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
RHD ...

at least what I read was that they were looking to trade Ehlers to CAR for one of the Hurricanes RHD.

- YouMeAndDupuis9


I'd dangle Schultz in front of them, but I know they want to go younger.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:22 AM ET
Ferland sucks balls.
- j.boyd919

He doesn't strike me as a guy worth more than what Rust makes. $3M would be a good price for his services.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
I'd dangle Schultz in front of them, but I know they want to go younger.
- Rinosaur


Then who replaces Schultz?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Someone would have to go. Pens are almost to the cap if its going to be 82 mill.
- MattStrat


I would attempt Rust for Miller or if they traded their first for Miller, then they'd have to dump Rust for futures.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:23 AM ET
Then who replaces Schultz?
- MattStrat


Hmmmm, good question
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:24 AM ET
Someone would have to go. Pens are almost to the cap if its going to be 82 mill.
- MattStrat

Sure, I just said I wouldn't want it to be Phil. Jacko or Gudbranson need to go.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Jacko or Gudbranson need to go.
- Barnaby36


The lower the cap goes, the tougher it now becomes to move one of those guys.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
I would attempt Rust for Miller or if they traded their first for Miller, then they'd have to dump Rust for futures.
- Rinosaur

Assuming no one will touch Jacko or Guds, sure. 99% nobody want them
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Sure, I just said I wouldn't want it to be Phil. Jacko or Gudbranson need to go.
- Barnaby36



He just needs to go. Period. Its all I really want from this offseason...and it looks like I'm not gonna get it.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:25 AM ET
Yeah I don’t put stock into plus/minus. It’s a dog poop stat.

He was actually a +8 at 5v5 over the last 41 games. I prefer differential stats at specific situations as opposed to arbitrary ones created by the NHL.

- j.boyd919


He was even at 5v5 play in his last 41 games. Was third on the team in 5v5 points. He was fine. People crapping on him for being good to finish the season are the same that think JJ finished the season fine.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:26 AM ET
The lower the cap goes, the tougher it now becomes to move one of those guys.
- Rinosaur

True. We need to tie a potential Phil trade to one of those guys. Phoenix please.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:27 AM ET
Hmmmm, good question
- Rinosaur


Schultz to the Peg for an ELC guy/prospect and/or Picks....Kessel to Preds for Subban.

JJ dumped anywhere for anything.

Plan the parade.

A 2nd pair of Petts and Subban....man...that sounds awesome.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
Schultz to the Peg for an ELC guy/prospect and/or Picks....Kessel to Preds for Subban.

JJ dumped anywhere for anything.

Plan the parade.

- MattStrat


If the Cap is even less than $82M you can kiss the idea of a Phil/Subban trade goodbye.

JJ ain't getting dumped unless they buy him out.
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:28 AM ET
JT Miller would be a great addition really. Hope we can snag him without trading Phil. Can Tyler Johnson play wing as well?
- Barnaby36


Yes, he played both spots over the years, but was mainly used as a center. Although, We really don't care about what position you play anymore it is a free for all once you become a penguin
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
If the Cap is even less than $82M you can kiss the idea of a Phil/Subban trade goodbye.

JJ ain't getting dumped unless they buy him out.

- Rinosaur



Also if Schultz is gone thats another 5.5 mill shed off the cap. So Pk would fit I think if Phil gone too. Phil plus Schultz is a 12.3 cap hit. Subban and another 3ish mill in space.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:29 AM ET
True. We need to tie a potential Phil trade to one of those guys. Phoenix please.
- Barnaby36


I mean, if the cap is $81 or less? I don't think it becomes about adding JJ as a rider to a Kessel trade. It's now a legit financial issue.

If the cap is less than $82 I'm pretty sure we can kiss any idea of JJ getting moved goodbye. The only thing we can hope for is that Riikola plays more than he does.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
Also if Schultz is gone thats another 5.5 mill off shed off the cap. So Pk would fit I think if Phil gone too. Phil plus Schultz is a 12.3 cap hit.
- MattStrat


Yes, but Schultz would be getting moved for a $6M/year player. It's a wash.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jun 18 @ 11:30 AM ET
Ehlers has jumped up high on TSN's trade board. I wonder what WPG is looking for in return.
- Rinosaur

He’s being shopped. Winnipeg wants a young roster player coming back
burgh4life87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 04.22.2014

Jun 18 @ 11:31 AM ET
True. We need to tie a potential Phil trade to one of those guys. Phoenix please.
- Barnaby36

Arizona has about 7 mill in space, they would probably insist on returning someone just to be safe. Either way, could clear like 5.5 mill and get a 1st out of it.
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