Hes just a fat baffoon. Takes away time from a good alt rock station in the afternoons.
- Guile

Yep. Dude spews garbage in the reg.

Apparently JJ is now listed as being #3 - taking Maatta’s old number. Now I’m less happy about the trade

Apparently JJ is now listed as being #3 - taking Maatta’s old number. Now I’m less happy about the trade
- WSCTeton17

Apparently his old numbers were 3 or 7... both were taken here so he did 73.

Could have waited a few days to not be a Richard.

Apparently his old numbers were 3 or 7... both were taken here so he did 73.

Could have waited a few days to not be a Richard.
- Guile

Eh I don’t think it makes a difference. If the number is available why not take it? It’s not like he took Sid or Geno’s number the day after they retired.

Apparently JJ is now listed as being #3 - taking Maatta’s old number. Now I’m less happy about the trade
- WSCTeton17

Gross, man.

Eh I don’t think it makes a difference. If the number is available why not take it? It’s not like he took Sid or Geno’s number the day after they retired.
- Victoro311

I hate everything about it hahah...nah, you're right, its just a number...I'm just extremely jaded with Olli gone and JJ staying right now.

Apparently JJ is now listed as being #3 - taking Maatta’s old number. Now I’m less happy about the trade
- WSCTeton17

I have a Goigoski 3 and Maatta 3... I will not buy a Johnson 3

Honestly, that's a smart thought an might be his main motivation. Phil is probably borderline for HOF.
- Tojo.

I’m sure he does want to make it but riddle me this: how many one dimensional hockey players are in the HOF who have never won or been leading candidates for the individual awards at their position? Seems like most of the guys who go to the hall have a few, right? Andreychuk only had some selke votes, but dude was a captain, a minute muncher, played PP and PK, certainly not one dimensional. Looking at the list, I don’t think Phil holds a candle next to these guys

I’m sure he does want to make it but riddle me this: how many one dimensional hockey players are in the HOF who have never won or been leading candidates for the individual awards at their position? Seems like most of the guys who go to the hall have a few, right? Andreychuk only had some selke votes, but dude was a captain, a minute muncher, played PP and PK, certainly not one dimensional. Looking at the list, I don’t think Phil holds a candle next to these guys
- WSCTeton17

Right now he’s 16th all time American born scorers. I think if he cracks the top 10 he should be a shoe in for the HOF. He’ll be right next to guys like Tony Amonte, Brian Leech, Joe Mullen, etc.

250ish points would put him in the top 5 all time American scorers of all time. Surely he’s hall of fame worthy if he’s behind Jeremy Roenick, Keith Tkatchuk, Phil Housley, Patty Kane and Mike Modano

I’m sure he does want to make it but riddle me this: how many one dimensional hockey players are in the HOF who have never won or been leading candidates for the individual awards at their position? Seems like most of the guys who go to the hall have a few, right? Andreychuk only had some selke votes, but dude was a captain, a minute muncher, played PP and PK, certainly not one dimensional. Looking at the list, I don’t think Phil holds a candle next to these guys
- WSCTeton17

Yeah not sure about HOF for Kessel at this point. Guetznel has more 40 goal seasons than Kessel. He has only scored over 30 once in the past 6 seasons.

How many of his assists were primary last year?

Yeah not sure about HOF for Kessel at this point. Guetznel has more 40 goal seasons than Kessel. He has only scored over 30 once in the past 6 seasons.

How many of his assists were primary last year?
- sammy87

32 out of his 55. Good for 2nd on the team behind Sid on Primary apples.

21 of his 31 even strength apples were primary too.

Right now he’s 16th all time American born scorers. I think if he cracks the top 10 he should be a shoe in for the HOF. He’ll be right next to guys like Tony Amonte, Brian Leech, Joe Mullen, etc.

250ish points would put him in the top 5 all time American scorers of all time. Surely he’s hall of fame worthy if he’s behind Jeremy Roenick, Keith Tkatchuk, Phil Housley, Patty Kane and Mike Modano
- j.boyd919

US HHOF? Sure, why not. Actual HHOF? Not IMO unless he has some monstrous seasons and gets some hart votes, which I don’t see happening

US HHOF? Sure, why not. Actual HHOF? Not IMO unless he has some monstrous seasons and gets some hart votes, which I don’t see happening
- WSCTeton17

Are the other top 5 American born scorers in the HOF? If so, I see no reason why Kessel wouldn’t be.

Obviously all I care about is bread man. I would kill for him in a Pens uni. But if the pens were able to clear a sizeable amount of cap space, I think there are still a number of interesting FAs.

What do you guys think will be the going rate for the below players?

Edler
Myers
Gardiner
Nyqvist
Panik
Donskoi
Ferland

Dreger just said cap is expected to be 82 Mill

There will be some serious scrambling going on. Maybe moving Phil to Arizona for picks/prospects could work. Then maybe snag JT Miller or Tyler Johnson from Tampa who is desperate to resign Point.

Obviously all I care about is bread man. I would kill for him in a Pens uni. But if the pens were able to clear a sizeable amount of cap space, I think there are still a number of interesting FAs.

What do you guys think will be the going rate for the below players?

Edler
Myers
Gardiner
Nyqvist
Panik
Donskoi
Ferland
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Edler - 5
Myers - 5-6
Gardiner - 6-7
Nyqvist - 6+ (crushed it last season)
Panik - 3.5-4
Donskoi - 3-4
Ferland 4+
Add in Brett Connolly in the 4-5 category, another really good UFA RW

Are the other top 5 American born scorers in the HOF? If so, I see no reason why Kessel wouldn’t be.
- j.boyd919

Kessel is a HOF lock IMO.

Dreger just said cap is expected to be 82 Mill

There will be some serious scrambling going on. Maybe moving Phil to Arizona for picks/prospects could work. Then maybe snag JT Miller or Tyler Johnson from Tampa who is desperate to resign Point.
- burgh4life87

It's $1M off the projected amount. Not earth-shattering for the Pens, but it will definitely affect other teams who were already in cap-hell.

Ehlers has jumped up high on TSN's trade board. I wonder what WPG is looking for in return.

He had 36 points in the last 41 games. He didn’t disappear in the second half of the season.
- j.boyd919

with 16 coming on the PP. and being a -15...

It's $1M off the projected amount. Not earth-shattering for the Pens, but it will definitely affect other teams who were already in cap-hell.
- Rinosaur

Tampa, SJ, VGK are all in trouble now. Plus Bob just said it could be less than 82. We could realistically just resign our RFA's and hit the season with cap space to play with. Tamps cannot. Point alone will cost them more than they have right now.

Edler - 5
Myers - 5-6
Gardiner - 6-7
Nyqvist - 6+ (crushed it last season)
Panik - 3.5-4
Donskoi - 3-4
Ferland 4+
Add in Brett Connolly in the 4-5 category, another really good UFA RW
- burgh4life87

At those numbers I'd prob be most interested in Myers, Donskoi, and Ferland.

with 16 coming on the PP. and being a -15...
- joecool2931

Yeah I don’t put stock into plus/minus. It’s a dog poop stat.

He was actually a +8 at 5v5 over the last 41 games. I prefer differential stats at specific situations as opposed to arbitrary ones created by the NHL.

At those numbers I'd prob be most interested in Myers, Donskoi, and Ferland.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Ferland sucks balls.

Ehlers has jumped up high on TSN's trade board. I wonder what WPG is looking for in return.
- Rinosaur

Will Winnipeg have anything good left? Seems like everyone is jumping the boat.