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bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
The Sens have signed Anthony Duclair to a one-year deal worth $1.65 million. He was a RFA
- LAHawk


5th team in 3 years...ugh...

fits the senators MO: cheap, need a body and worthless
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jun 17 @ 10:48 AM ET
I like the deal for several reasons.

I think Maatta still has some potential to be fulfilled. Injuries have played a major role in this kids career to this part and while this is concerning perhaps he's had some bad luck and a change of scenery and training staff can help him avoid any major injuries going forward. Also, he fits the bill to a T of what this team needs. LHD who's a Defensive D-Man. I get a Johnny Oduya feel from this trade. Guy who's good on the PK and solid Defensively that can take his game to another level on the team. He's still got youth on his side and fits very nicely with the next wake of D-Men the Hawks are currently grooming.

While it sucks to see Kahun go after exceeding most of everyone's expectations last year, you gotta give something to get something. The Pens need some forward help and have a glut of their own on the back-end they were looking to alleviate along with trading Maatta's contract (it will only really help for one year as Kahun will likely be looking for a deal in the 4M+ range the coming season or more if he has another good season for the Pens) to help make other moves. We also have a GLUT of forwards to deal from so it was worth the risk especially if Wedin can play a similar role that Kahun played and the Hawks could even sign another scoring forward in FA.

The other fact that works to the Hawks advantage is that should he not be the player that we hope he can be, he will be able to meet the criteria for the expansion draft as well and we could expose him there. Also the money isn't too bad that it couldn't be moved or bought out.

Looks like there are several more moves to be made going forward. It'll be interesting to see what Bowman does this week leading into the draft (as well as who he takes) and to start FA.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Jun 17 @ 10:51 AM ET
thats my thinking and wilson will give it to him...not leaving the bay area...
- bogiedoc

If Marleau left, Pavelski could too. Marleau was the franchise darling and will forever be a living legend in the Bay Area. You’re probably right but SJ would be best served by going younger. They also have Nyquist and Donskoi to re-sign. Anders Lee would make more sense for them than Pavelski imo.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jun 17 @ 10:57 AM ET
Could be. Elbows has been surly since he was wrong on Peter Regin. Poor guy can't give away the sweater....
- mohel


Hahaha!! Some people are just dead set in their ways.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
The Sens have signed Anthony Duclair to a one-year deal worth $1.65 million. He was a RFA
- LAHawk

Another guy rushed directly to the Show after Junior (by the Rags).

Speed to beat anyone to someplace on the ice - never figured out what to do after he got there. (Probably never really knew where "there" was.)

Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
Here is a look at what Bowman was talking about in terms of Maata helping out.

Here is a picture of unblocked shot rates for the Pens with Maata on the ice 5v5. Note: Red in front of the goalie is bad. Means a high rate of shots compared to league average. The left side wasn't facing the onslaught the right side was. Appears they limited shot right in front of their goalie.



Here is how the Pens did without Maata 5v5.



Here is how the Hawks did as a team. The glaring problem in terms of shots unblocked from dangerous spots. Maata at least seemed to have a positive effect



This isn't everything, but at least as a 2nd pair guy Maata should give the goalies an easier time by holding down the fort on his side a bit better. He is apparently good at that and this is what the charts tend to show here.

- breadbag


Thanks for posting this BB.

Seems like he blocks shots like Hammer. Would be a nice comparison between those 2.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jun 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
That was just a hypothetical signing, although I wouldn't mind Pavelski
- DarthKane


I don't see him leaving SJ, but I wouldn't mind it either. I think he's close with E. Kane ... maybe he should try P. Kane.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 11:04 AM ET
The Athletic had an article by Lazerus this morning with one notion of Pavelski and Filppula signing in Chicago with Pavelski playing top line with Tazer.
- Assman22


Sounded like Pavelski is intrigued by Chicago if he isn't resigned in SJ.

The Erik Karlsson resigning today for 11M per (wowza) isn't going to help.

Pavelski would be a great addition on a short-term contract. I doubt he does that, but that would be my vote.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
I wonder if this is the type of deal Perlini will sign?
- DarthKane


I can see it being very similar.

Perlini could get up to $2M if he signs for 2-3 years.

Guess it all depends on where the Hawks see him fitting in.
DrewDawg
Joined: 05.10.2016

Jun 17 @ 11:06 AM ET
Wow, that's a massive deal. The first half will be ok, but after that this deal isn't looking so good.
- DarthKane


Wonder what the means for new contract for Gustafson... $6 minimum and if he produces again like last year $8+?

Also might mean the Rangers might be more interested after missing out.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jun 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
and here is your tired old retread coach hire for this sinking ship

https://www.nhl.com/news/...kins-as-coach/c-307873432

- bogiedoc


Bogie, how is a 52 year old guy and old, tired, retread? Know if you’re talking about someone that is in their middle to late 60s, I get it, and I respect the next guys opinion, I think Ken Hitchcock still would be an effective head coach for a team , unless everybody is looking for the next Theo Epstein, Kyle Dubas, or fill in the blank as far is young and up-and-coming type coach or executive.
John McDonough had a pretty good interview last night on channel 9 , when he said a lot of this was based on hope regarding some of their decisions including the coach.
I’ll stand by what I said earlier, that my worry is if this goes south, guys like Kane Toews ,Seabrook Kieth, etc. guys did have one cups here, are going to shut this young kid down, kick him in the ass, and put him in a corner.
Part of the reason Mark Crawford was brought in. Let’s hope that Jeremy Colleton is successful.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
Sounded like Pavelski is intrigued by Chicago if he isn't resigned in SJ.

The Erik Karlsson resigning today for 11M per (wowza) isn't going to help.

Pavelski would be a great addition on a short-term contract. I doubt he does that, but that would be my vote.

- Tyler Cameron


If Karlsson doesn't recover from his achilles surgery and get his top gear back this is a terrible signing. Evern if he doesn't get his speed back I think it's still a bad signing. $11M a season for a a better Gus offensively but with about the same skill defensively? If the Sharks lose good players because of this signing, it looks good on them.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:12 AM ET
Wonder what the means for new contract for Gustafson... $6 minimum and if he produces again like last year $8+?

Also might mean the Rangers might be more interested after missing out.

- DrewDawg


Hard to gauge what Gus would get IMO, but you make an interesting point. Karlsson resigning might trigger some more activity on Dmen being traded or may turn up the heat on some discussions.

If the Hawks move Gus, I just hope they get good value on the deal and have a plan to replace him on the PP. While fixing the PK is the focus, I'd hate for them to go back to PP that is a complete mess again.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 17 @ 11:16 AM ET
Sounded like Pavelski is intrigued by Chicago if he isn't resigned in SJ.

The Erik Karlsson resigning today for 11M per (wowza) isn't going to help.

Pavelski would be a great addition on a short-term contract. I doubt he does that, but that would be my vote.

- Tyler Cameron

Would love Pavelski here with the Hawks. He’s got some chemistry with Kane from the Team USA days and is a Wisconsin boy like Keith. I’m sure he’s looking for one final payday however, so might be fiscally irresponsible of the team to sign him when they’ve got Strome to take care of as well.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Bogie, how is a 52 year old guy and old, tired, retread? Know if you’re talking about someone that is in their middle to late 60s, I get it, and I respect the next guys opinion, I think Ken Hitchcock still would be an effective head coach for a team , unless everybody is looking for the next Theo Epstein, Kyle Dubas, or fill in the blank as far is young and up-and-coming type coach or executive.
John McDonough had a pretty good interview last night on channel 9 , when he said a lot of this was based on hope regarding some of their decisions including the coach.
I’ll stand by what I said earlier, that my worry is if this goes south, guys like Kane Toews ,Seabrook Kieth, etc. guys did have one cups here, are going to shut this young kid down, kick him in the ass, and put him in a corner.
Part of the reason Mark Crawford was brought in. Let’s hope that Jeremy Colleton is successful.

- wonthecup10

Hope is not a strategy.
Q-stache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.20.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:17 AM ET
Sounded like Pavelski is intrigued by Chicago if he isn't resigned in SJ.

The Erik Karlsson resigning today for 11M per (wowza) isn't going to help.

Pavelski would be a great addition on a short-term contract. I doubt he does that, but that would be my vote.

- Tyler Cameron

He's older, but I'd take Pavelski in a heartbeat. It would be a shock to see him sign elsewhere.

Karlsson is getting PAID, you've got to imagine that contract will make signing/resigning others very difficult.. I'd have to assume that San Jose will let Jumbo Joe walk before Pavelski, but we'll see what the dollars look like.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:18 AM ET
Wonder what the means for new contract for Gustafson... $6 minimum and if he produces again like last year $8+?

Also might mean the Rangers might be more interested after missing out.

- DrewDawg



I'm not necessarily advocating a Gustafsson trade, but with Karlsson locked up and the season Gus had it might be the best time to move him.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:22 AM ET
He's older, but I'd take Pavelski in a heartbeat. It would be a shock to see him sign elsewhere.

Karlsson is getting PAID, you've got to imagine that contract will make signing/resigning others very difficult.. I'd have to assume that San Jose will let Jumbo Joe walk before Pavelski, but we'll see what the dollars look like.

- Q-stache


I agree. SJ would be smart to sign Pavelski over Thornton. The one I'm curious about is Timo Meier after his breakout season. Maybe the Hawks should pay back the Hjalmarsson offer sheet with one of their own.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jun 17 @ 11:24 AM ET
Hope is not a strategy.
- scottak


Agree. I guess we will all find out and be able to get the lay of the land by what next year will look probably somewhere by July 15.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jun 17 @ 11:27 AM ET
I agree. SJ would be smart to sign Pavelski over Thornton. The one I'm curious about is Timo Meier after his breakout season. Maybe the Hawks should pay back the Hjalmarsson offer sheet with one of their own.
- breadbag

Zero chance SJ lets Meier walk, regardless of cost.

He is a damn good player who hasn’t even hit his prime yet. He’s probably their biggest priority right now, without a doubt.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Zero chance SJ lets Meier walk, regardless of cost.

He is a damn good player who hasn’t even hit his prime yet. He’s probably their biggest priority right now, without a doubt.

- TommyHawk


I agree. I think it would be nice to help them out by driving up the price a little if possible.
Q-stache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.20.2015

Jun 17 @ 11:30 AM ET
I agree. SJ would be smart to sign Pavelski over Thornton. The one I'm curious about is Timo Meier after his breakout season. Maybe the Hawks should pay back the Hjalmarsson offer sheet with one of their own.
- breadbag

No way Thornton is coming back for $5, but does he take $1? Hometown discounts are hard to project.

If he does, do they have room to resign Pavelski at $7-8?

Lotta guys need to get paid: https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/sharks
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
Great tidbits TC. I am on the fence about this trade. When you look at teams win Cups, guys with Kahun's skillset usually are invoolved. I liked his ability to play anywhere in the lineup and think he will be missed.

On the rumors about Murphy. For me, you dont really get the title "shut down guy" til you do it in the playoffs. We havent made the playoffs since he has been here so we dont really know. He had a nice year and a huge issue we had was keeping pucks out of our net. We shouldnt look to move a guy that helps with cutting that down. Saad seems to be the chip that can provide the depth D piece and cap space if moved.

Pick Byram and you will be all set!
SteveRain
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Connor Murphy Sucks, IL
Joined: 05.07.2010

Jun 17 @ 11:42 AM ET
Wow....people still hate Maata that much? Jesus.

For a team that had 4-5 pylons dressed as hockey players taking the ice most nights last season, this team needed a true defensive defensemen since the hawks traded away their best pure defender in Hammer, for international hockey leadership guru Murphy, and then realized.....they miss Hammer badly and need a 2.0 pseudo version of him, and you get maata.

So how does this team NOT improve after this trade? They added a guy who is stable in his own end, blocks a lot of shots and will lead to some turd who is a fringe NHL defensemen being either in Rockford, Europe, somewhere else in the NHL, or in the press box, but NOT hurting this team on the ice.

My god.....This team needs ample help on the back end and when they acquire a decent D man people are ready to storm the castle?

tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jun 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Driving in this morning, NHL Radio had one of the Penguins beat writers on. He said Maata last year was slow on straight away speed, his turns, etc. are still there. He didn't know if the straight away speed issue was because of injury. He said Maata is a very smart hockey player and if he plays to potential the Hawks will be very happy the picked him up. He said Maata was traded because they needed the cap space, and no one wants Jack Johnson and the Kessel trade fell through.
- LAHawk


Was listening too. Said he could turn on dime, mobility not really an issue just does not have the speed (which can still be very problematic).
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