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hawkitect
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: calgary, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:00 PM ET
Wow. Sharks seem particularly hooped for salary cap now. What big salary is going to get moved out/not resigned? What about Stan trying to get Hertl? Big, skilled center.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:00 PM ET
I really thought Trouba would have fetched more.

Let's remember though that Trouba has to sign in New York still. They weren't allowed to talk to him so it's a risk to give up a 1st and Poink.

However, they have a boatload of money and a big apple to toss at him.

- Tyler Cameron


and high taxes
gifman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Gifland
Joined: 09.17.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:03 PM ET
I really thought Trouba would have fetched more.

Let's remember though that Trouba has to sign in New York still. They weren't allowed to talk to him so it's a risk to give up a 1st and Poink.

However, they have a boatload of money and a big apple to toss at him.

- Tyler Cameron


Tyler if I remember you once floated the idea of trading Cat And Strome to Edm for Drastl and someone else. Would that be enough to get Marner?
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jun 17 @ 9:05 PM ET
Wow. Sharks seem particularly hooped for salary cap now. What big salary is going to get moved out/not resigned? What about Stan trying to get Hertl? Big, skilled center.
- hawkitect


How does Nyquist fit as a LW on A Toews line ?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:06 PM ET
Tyler if I remember you once floated the idea of trading Cat And Strome to Edm for Drastl and someone else. Would that be enough to get Marner?
- gifman


No.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:08 PM ET
I just noticed that the new Karlsson deal has an AAV of $11.5M - I thought $11M was too much but now come to find out it's actually even more by $500K per year. MERCY!
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Jun 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
I just noticed that the new Karlsson deal has an AAV of $11.5M - I thought $11M was too much but now come to find out it's actually even more by $500K per year. MERCY!
- EbonyRaptor


Especially considering he just had to have his groin surgically repaired.
hawkitect
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: calgary, AB
Joined: 02.03.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:09 PM ET
How does Nyquist fit as a LW on A Toews line ?
- LAHawk


Or Meier.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:10 PM ET
Wow. Sharks seem particularly hooped for salary cap now. What big salary is going to get moved out/not resigned? What about Stan trying to get Hertl? Big, skilled center.
- hawkitect


Jumbo retires and Pavelski gets moved unless he takes one heck of a homer discount.

Pays for EK right there.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:11 PM ET
Wow just watched a interview with that Byram kid ,got a real bad vibe from him . Cocky as all get out ,got trouble written all over him .Hard pass on that kid .It back to Cozens or Dach for me .
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 9:11 PM ET
Tyler if I remember you once floated the idea of trading Cat And Strome to Edm for Drastl and someone else. Would that be enough to get Marner?
- gifman


Hmmm... that was not me.

... and I don't think I would trade Strome and DeBraincat for Marner. That doesn't really help Toronto and their salary cap issues for the future either.

I think Marner gets signed at the expense of a lot of guys - Kadri, Zaitsev, Marleau, Johnsson, Kapanen, Brown... all on that list of potential casualties.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:14 PM ET
Tyler if I remember you once floated the idea of trading Cat And Strome to Edm for Drastl and someone else. Would that be enough to get Marner?
- gifman


If I were the GM of the Leafs I would do everything in my power to re-sign Marner. Its Marner, not Tavares or Matthews that the Bruins focused on shutting down the last two playoff series. Marner is not only a very good playmaker and scorer but He's above average defensively. Aside from playing on the top line he's also on both the number one power play and the number one penalty killing units. He's also on the ice in the last minutes of closes games regardless of which team has the lead. I doubt ADB and Strome would interest the Leafs.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:17 PM ET
Wow just watched a interview with that Byram kid ,got a real bad vibe from him . Cocky as all get out ,got trouble written all over him .Hard pass on that kid .It back to Cozens or Dach for me .
- oldduffman

How does being cocky equate to being trouble?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 17 @ 9:18 PM ET
How does being cocky equate to being trouble?
- paulr


Maybe not a team player....
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 17 @ 9:19 PM ET
Nobody does any of your deals. There all (frank)ing dumb.
- GPHawksfan

Takes one to know one dumbass
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:24 PM ET
and the trouba dream goes...


Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 9:44 PM ET
and the trouba dream goes...


- bogiedoc


It was a long shot that Chevy was going to trade Trouba to a division rival, however, Trouba is exactly what this team needs.

Guys like that don't become available very often. Once he signs a 7 year deal... he'll be unavailable for good.

EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Jun 17 @ 9:47 PM ET
Maybe not a team player....
- Return of the Roar


His coach raved about what a great team player he is. Some people hear cockiness while others hear confidence in himself.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Jun 17 @ 9:53 PM ET
His coach raved about what a great team player he is. Some people hear cockiness while others hear confidence in himself.
- EbonyRaptor


Take 10 young hockey players and 9 of them will be cocky in person.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 17 @ 9:56 PM ET
Take 10 young hockey players and 9 of them will be cocky in person.
- breadbag

Take ten 18 year olds and 9of them will be cockiness in person.

Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Jun 17 @ 10:03 PM ET
I just got a chuckle reading the latest Rangers blog. There was mention of moving out salary and Vesey was mentioned as a potential. I had this weird thought about the reaction here if somehow the Hawks signed K. Hayes and traded for J. Vesey in the same offseason...
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:18 PM ET
If I were the GM of the Leafs I would do everything in my power to re-sign Marner. Its Marner, not Tavares or Matthews that the Bruins focused on shutting down the last two playoff series. Marner is not only a very good playmaker and scorer but He's above average defensively. Aside from playing on the top line he's also on both the number one power play and the number one penalty killing units. He's also on the ice in the last minutes of closes games regardless of which team has the lead. I doubt ADB and Strome would interest the Leafs.
- paulr


Zegras..............
ChicagoHope
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lyndon, IL
Joined: 08.13.2007

Jun 17 @ 10:24 PM ET
Wow just watched a interview with that Byram kid ,got a real bad vibe from him . Cocky as all get out ,got trouble written all over him .Hard pass on that kid .It back to Cozens or Dach for me .
- oldduffman


I am glad Kane was never arrogant when he was 18. Maybe the Hawks should have stayed away from him back in 2007.
Tyler Cameron
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 10.31.2017

Jun 17 @ 10:27 PM ET
New blog coming out in the AM.

It's my last edition to my draft preview: Dylan Cozens + a couple rumors.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 17 @ 10:35 PM ET
Just for debate/discussion.....not factoring in current organizational depth/prospects/roster. If you are starting a team and you have to choose between Scott Niedermayer or Mark Messier (Jonathan Toews or Duncan Keith). What's the more valuable player to build around, a #1 Defenseman or #1 Center.....??


EDIT: And I know that the Hawks keep saying "Best Player Available", but when looking at 2 different positions with the likely choices being Byram or Cozens/Turcotte/Dach....doesn't the Hawks' Hockey Ops valuation of #1 D vs #1 C to an organization come into play when determining who they define as "Best Player Available"??

- EnzoD


Yo Zo, I asked a few scouts I bother from time to time on the Twitter the same question. You take the #1 D or the #1C and they all said D. I'm in the Chunk camp, I think. A centerman covers every inch of all 3 zones and takes faceoffs. He can stop an attack in the Ozone and neutral zone better than a Dman can.

But the new age Dman is the trigger. Very very few have the poise, speed of thought, vision and or feet and skill to get the thing the hell out of the Dzone while under crazy pressure to not only relieve pressure but start an attack.

Tough call...........
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