Agree, i do not want Elliott back because of the injury history. Ideally, I would assume Hart with a workload around 50 games is the goal. Not sure Talbot is that guy for the role. Lyon is an AHL goalie and Sandstrom first yr in North America not great options. Maybe a Reimer or Halak type of option might make more sense.

Agree, i do not want Elliott back because of the injury history. Ideally, I would assume Hart with a workload around 50 games is the goal. Not sure Talbot is that guy for the role. Lyon is an AHL goalie and Sandstrom first yr in North America not great options. Maybe a Reimer or Halak type of option might make more sense.
- ravishingone

I would take Reimer if they ate some
Money to get it at 2.2 or so.

I would take Reimer if they ate some
Money to get it at 2.2 or so.
- daryl stanley

A possibility, if Bob is the target for them, I would think he is available. Hart is cheap for another 2 yrs, so to spend a little more on a back up isn t a bad idea. Even without salary retention if Reimer is acquired, the combined cap hit for both the next 2 seasons I believe is less then 5 million. Tgey must think Talbot is cooked if they want to trade for a backup.

Should be an interesting week. Seems like Fletcher is just preparing for a busy couple of weeks. Won't surprise me if he's targeting a major player either through FA or trade.

The move to me he has to nail is the back up goalie. That's why he can't go with Elliot. And I'm no sold on Talbot but who knows.

6.5 X 5 years would be a fair market offer for Hayes, given the Brock Nelson deal.

Someone will give him a 6 year deal at 6+ per year but I’d hope it’s not the Flyers.

Maybe they can trade his rights again and recoup their draft pick if he’s not signing here. But a 5th isn’t too big of a deal. I’d rather they walk away then overpay.

The back up goalie is an interesting dilemma.
I don’t think they should overplay Hart, and getting a solid #2 could be the difference in making the playoffs.

A possibility, if Bob is the target for them, I would think he is available. Hart is cheap for another 2 yrs, so to spend a little more on a back up isn t a bad idea. Even without salary retention if Reimer is acquired, the combined cap hit for both the next 2 seasons I believe is less then 5 million. Tgey must think Talbot is cooked if they want to trade for a backup.
- ravishingone

They would probably take back an ahl player just to rid themselves of the contract.

Talbot is very hard to judge as he never got into enough games here last season, but the games I watched his rebound control was not very good. I was uncomfortable watching him play.

Elliot was fine when healthy but given his injuries I would not bring him back.

6.5 X 5 years would be a fair market offer for Hayes, given the Brock Nelson deal.

Someone will give him a 6 year deal at 6+ per year but I’d hope it’s not the Flyers.

Maybe they can trade his rights again and recoup their draft pick if he’s not signing here. But a 5th isn’t too big of a deal. I’d rather they walk away then overpay.

The back up goalie is an interesting dilemma.
I don’t think they should overplay Hart, and getting a solid #2 could be the difference in making the playoffs.
- Marc D

Agree with the solid #2 as well

A possibility, if Bob is the target for them, I would think he is available. Hart is cheap for another 2 yrs, so to spend a little more on a back up isn t a bad idea. Even without salary retention if Reimer is acquired, the combined cap hit for both the next 2 seasons I believe is less then 5 million. Tgey must think Talbot is cooked if they want to trade for a backup.
- ravishingone

Bob isn’t coming here and the Flyers would be paying a lot more. Why do you think he wanted out of philly for starters.

Bob isn’t coming here and the Flyers would be paying a lot more. Why do you think he wanted out of philly for starters.
- bird_dog_pa

I think he meant that he is a target of Florida.

Bill - if Hayes' decision is a money decision, why trade for his rights? I don't see what it gets you except a position from which you have to overpay - why would he sign early, before any dominoes have fallen, unless he feels like he's getting paid. Why not say thanks for the schmoozing and just wait us out, get offers from other interested parties, and then choose - at which point we could overpay just as easily without giving up a 5th?

Bill - if Hayes' decision is a money decision, why trade for his rights? I don't see what it gets you except a position from which you have to overpay - why would he sign early, before any dominoes have fallen, unless he feels like he's getting paid. Why not say thanks for the schmoozing and just wait us out, get offers from other interested parties, and then choose - at which point we could overpay just as easily without giving up a 5th?
- theydidwhat

Because it gives them time to negotiate without having other teams in his ear and it shows a commitment to the player.

And at the end of the day it's a 5th rounder. For every Jamie Benn there ends up being taken there are about 500 players that never sniff the NHL.

Bill - if Hayes' decision is a money decision, why trade for his rights? I don't see what it gets you except a position from which you have to overpay - why would he sign early, before any dominoes have fallen, unless he feels like he's getting paid. Why not say thanks for the schmoozing and just wait us out, get offers from other interested parties, and then choose - at which point we could overpay just as easily without giving up a 5th?
- theydidwhat

Trading for rights seems like a dated thing to me. Players and people are more connected than ever. They have a good idea of inner workings of teams. Word gets around. What did they tell Hayes that he doesn’t already know?

I think he meant that he is a target of Florida.
- Flyers1218

Any news about other Flyers alumni in goal

Steve Mason , Michael Neuvirth or Peter Mrazek

Philly is not exactly kind to goalies

Because it gives them time to negotiate without having other teams in his ear and it shows a commitment to the player.

And at the end of the day it's a 5th rounder. For every Jamie Benn there ends up being taken there are about 500 players that never sniff the NHL.
- hereticpride

Yes but why Hayes ? I think it would be very unfair to give him more then what
Cots was getting.A 7 year deal is madness 5 years for 6 million should be the maximum

Trading for rights seems like a dated thing to me. Players and people are more connected than ever. They have a good idea of inner workings of teams. Word gets around. What did they tell Hayes that he doesn’t already know?
- Just5

Unless a handshake deal was already in place I don’t really see any advantage to trading for rights. It did work well with Hartnell and Kimmo but I feel like Hayes is going somewhere else.

Unless a handshake deal was already in place I don’t really see any advantage to trading for rights. It did work well with Hartnell and Kimmo but I feel like Hayes is going somewhere else.
- Marc D

l. 🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝 Deal

I'd rather they just waived AMac and kept him as a call up option.
- jmatchett383

That’s a dead issue because he have a HUawei cell-phone.............next

I'd rather they just waived AMac and kept him as a call up option.
- jmatchett383

here here

Bill - if Hayes' decision is a money decision, why trade for his rights? I don't see what it gets you except a position from which you have to overpay - why would he sign early, before any dominoes have fallen, unless he feels like he's getting paid. Why not say thanks for the schmoozing and just wait us out, get offers from other interested parties, and then choose - at which point we could overpay just as easily without giving up a 5th?
- theydidwhat

Fletcher traded for his rights so he knows before the draft whether or not he could fill the 2C position with Hayes. If Hayes doesn’t want to sign then he knows he has to trade for another center. The draft is one of the prime trading days of the year.

They give Hayes 6.5 or 7 million, they just should have brought Holmgren back because that contract would be Holmgren stupidity
- twpguy

Holmgren was and still is sadly, a punching bag 💼 for Snider’s decisions

The issue with keeping AMac is if we had to use him his $5mil salary kills us. Fletch has bigger plans this offseason. AMacs buyout signals more to come.

Fletcher traded for his rights so he knows before the draft whether or not he could fill the 2C position with Hayes. If Hayes doesn’t want to sign then he knows he has to trade for another center. The draft is one of the prime trading days of the year.
- psuhockey

I wonder who they target if not Hayes. I just don t think it will be Kadri. Haven t read anything just a hunch.

Trading for rights seems like a dated thing to me. Players and people are more connected than ever. They have a good idea of inner workings of teams. Word gets around. What did they tell Hayes that he doesn’t already know?
- Just5

And with the negotiating period now, it does seem kind of useless unless you're willing to overpay.

Still hope they sign him to a reasonable contract.

I wonder who they target if not Hayes. I just don t think it will be Kadri. Haven t read anything just a hunch.
- ravishingone

What else would it take to get Coyle for Hayes' rights if their is indeed mutual interest for Hayes to sign in Boston? Maybe a 2020 third?