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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:17 PM ET
Only 60 games last year, was he hurt?
- scottak

The question is more when isn't he hurt.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:18 PM ET

- Elbows15


I take it those red bars are not good?
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:18 PM ET
Lottery pick next year too then?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:19 PM ET
He’s had some injuries and also a scare with cancer that kept him out some time but if the defense was as is going into the season which I’m pretty sure it won’t but if it did, I think a second line of Maatta and Gus would be a pretty solid 2nd pairing.....maatta is pretty damn solid in his own end and they would give the hawks almost a perfect balance
- rwilliams88


He's inconsistent as hell in his own zone. He is pretty much what they already had on cheaper deals. Not sure about his PK TOI or performance and that could be more of what this move is about.
bigfly46
Location: highland, IN
Joined: 04.21.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
Lottery pick next year too then?
- Return of the Roar



Most likely. No faith in the upper management anymore in this organization.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
I take it those red bars are not good?
- boilermaker100

They are not. Its a small sample size for the one on the right. Think it was 15 games. The one on the left is for 54 games.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:21 PM ET
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- walleyeb1

At least from those stats he doesn’t appear be allergic to blocking pucks.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:24 PM ET
I would have pushed for a better defenseman.
- Ogilthorpe2

I would have been patient and see if Joki doesn't solve some of the top 4 needs. On a one year deal? Sure, take a flyer. Even two I could see it. Him having 3 years left kinda makes me meh on the trade.
scottak
Location: I am serious. And don't call me Shirley!
Joined: 08.06.2010

Jun 15 @ 9:25 PM ET

- Elbows15

Does the 15 games tracked indicate these numbers are for only 15 of his 60 games played? Is so, they’re flawed.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:25 PM ET
At least from those stats he doesn’t appear be allergic to blocking pucks.
- Ogilthorpe2

True. But I want my d-men blocking less shots. Not more. If you get where I am going here.

L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
Modified NTC beginning in 20-21. List of 8 teams he won’t go to.
- scottak

Sometimes trades negate NTCs - it always depends on how the NTC was stipulated.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:26 PM ET
Dammit the trade should of been for Dumoulin
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:27 PM ET
I could have been wrong. Players with NMC are not draft eligible unless they waive. Don't know about the partial NTC. I assume if he doesn't want to go to Seattle and puts them on his no trade list, he can't be exposed.
- boilermaker100
Players with NTC are draft eligible - only those with full NMC must be protected unless the player waives.

Maatta does not need to be protected if he is still here by the time the expansion draft rolls around.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:27 PM ET
Does the 15 games tracked indicate these numbers are footprints only 15 of his 60 games played? Is so, they’re flawed.
- scottak

Why I mentioned it. They are indicative of how much he struggled last season, tho.

The numbers themselves aren't flawed. The sample size for sure isn't big enough to draw any concrete conclusions but they aren't good.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:27 PM ET
Dammit the trade should of been for Dumoulin
- BetweenTheDots
Pens weren't going to move Dumo though.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Jun 15 @ 9:28 PM ET
Trade alert:

Pittsburgh trades Olli Maatta to Chicago for Kahun and a 5th round pick.

- walleyeb1


I know you're the messenger & thanks for the news. None of what I'm about to say is directed at you.

This trade (frank)ing sucks! I liked Kahun & I (frank)ing hate Maatta! I'm pissed!
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:29 PM ET
Pens weren't going to move Dumo though.
- L_B_R


Bowman shouldn't of made a deal just to make a deal.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:30 PM ET
Why I mentioned it. They are indicative of how much he struggled last season, tho.

The numbers themselves aren't flawed. The sample size for sure isn't big enough to draw any concrete conclusions but they aren't good.

- Elbows15

Was about to say this.

Though to note, unless a team has a dedicated tracker (the Pens don't), the games are typically somewhat random so as to not catch a player during an up or down period. 20 games is where players stabilize so it's not that far off. Just enough to start an opinion but not enough to make a definitive assessment.
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Jun 15 @ 9:30 PM ET
There's your top 4 D.

Maatta was on my list.

Heard there wae talk with Pittsburgh and guess this is why.

- Tyler Cameron


I don't like this as a Blues fan.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 15 @ 9:31 PM ET
Bowman shouldn't of made a deal just to make a deal.
- BetweenTheDots
How do you know that is what he did? Maybe Bowman or the Hawks org think Maatta is a good pick-up. Who knows.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Jun 15 @ 9:32 PM ET
Pens weren't going to move Dumo though.
- L_B_R


Hello, LBR. As you may know, this board believes they should get Hedman for Kahun. Nothing less.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:32 PM ET
I know your the messenger & thanks for the news. None of what I'm about to say is directed at you.

This trade (frank)ing sucks! I liked Kahun & I (frank)ing hate Maatta! I'm pissed!

- I Am The Breadman

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Yep, when it comes to dmen, i believe Bowman sucks at recognizing true talented ones
rwilliams88
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: carol stream
Joined: 02.20.2009

Jun 15 @ 9:34 PM ET
He's inconsistent as hell in his own zone. He is pretty much what they already had on cheaper deals. Not sure about his PK TOI or performance and that could be more of what this move is about.
- Elbows15

Ah boy....This is what we get when everyone snowballs on everyone that doesn’t watch anything other than the blackhawks and some playoff hockey maybe....mattaa is maybe a little slow footed but he’s for sure better responsibly in his own end than most of what we have now...I wouldn’t advocate putting him with seabrook but with gus or maybe even joker, there’s something there....he’s a top 4 right now on the hawks, and all you had to give up was a 5th and Kahun (I like Kahun but he’s replaceable) maatta makes your defense better right now....he makes a bigger impact to the team than Kahun does
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Jun 15 @ 9:36 PM ET
How do you know that is what he did? Maybe Bowman or the Hawks org think Maatta is a good pick-up. Who knows.
- L_B_R


I guess we'll see, but imho we have plenty of 5th and 6th dmen, Kahun isn't a top 6 player but he was a solid role player for this team.
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 15 @ 9:38 PM ET
I would have been patient and see if Joki doesn't solve some of the top 4 needs. On a one year deal? Sure, take a flyer. Even two I could see it. Him having 3 years left kinda makes me meh on the trade.
- Elbows15


I do not mind the 3 years. It is the $4M+ part of his deal that I do not. Also if it means that Murphy gets moved, our defence just got softer than it already was.

Oh well, looks like we probably got ourselves a new whipping boy for next season.
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