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DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 8 @ 8:06 PM ET
Krebs tore his Achilles. I wonder if that will drop him into the second round?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Krebs tore his Achilles. I wonder if that will drop him into the second round?
- DarthKane


since no one expected him to play now, he still goes mid first I would venture to guess...
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Jun 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Krebs tore his Achilles. I wonder if that will drop him into the second round?
- DarthKane

When and how?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Jun 8 @ 9:18 PM ET
When and how?
- tvetter


Happened today at an on ice workout. A player who he was training with accidentally cut through Krebs sock with his skate and partially tore the Achilles.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 8 @ 11:41 PM ET
Happened today at an on ice workout. A player who he was training with accidentally cut through Krebs sock with his skate and partially tore the Achilles.
- boilermaker100


I thought about dropping him down from Philly at slot #11, but it wasn't a full disattachment, I guess the medical reports will help a team take or break their interest in him...

If this partial tear scares off teams past slot 15 you try and make trade to get him....
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 1:11 AM ET
Corey Perry is now the latest example of what happens when you give mega $$ 8 year contracts to players 28 and above: productions begins to fall off, as injurys and loss playing time increase. He has two years left...the ducks blogger expects a buyout. Yep...no one is taking perry even for 2 years at an 8 mil cap hit unless the ducks eat at least 50% of it.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Jun 9 @ 1:42 AM ET
Hickey from the Isles is rumored to be on the trading block. He has 3 years remaining on his contract at $2.5M per year. Not sure what his advanced stats say but the eye test has shown him to be one of the most reliable and steady defenders for the Isles the past few years. Would be worth kicking the tires on to acquire a veteran defender.

Given that the Isles are looking to trade both Hickey and Leddy, they may be looking for new D men. Maybe package one of Dahlstrom, Forsling, or Koekkoek + a B level defenseman prospect (Hillman, Gilbert, Tuulola) and/or draft picks for Hickey.

Leddy also has 3 years remaining on his contract but at more than double the cap hit at $5.5M per year.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Jun 9 @ 8:22 AM ET
Hickey from the Isles is rumored to be on the trading block. He has 3 years remaining on his contract at $2.5M per year. Not sure what his advanced stats say but the eye test has shown him to be one of the most reliable and steady defenders for the Isles the past few years. Would be worth kicking the tires on to acquire a veteran defender.

Given that the Isles are looking to trade both Hickey and Leddy, they may be looking for new D men. Maybe package one of Dahlstrom, Forsling, or Koekkoek + a B level defenseman prospect (Hillman, Gilbert, Tuulola) and/or draft picks for Hickey.

Leddy also has 3 years remaining on his contract but at more than double the cap hit at $5.5M per year.

- AEL_Fox


I read that Pesce in Carolina might be available. Although he would cost most to acquire he’d be an upgrade over Leddy and Hickey.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:30 AM ET
And the stickler is the term, not necessarily the amount according to reports. Isles don't want to go over 5 years, Lee doesn't want to go under 7. It's possible they can get less term if they raise the amount but who knows.
- L_B_R


Wow LBR, you still post here?? The times I get here I don't see you posting.......... Regardless a question. I see Major Jr is keeping some in depth fancies, are you aware? If so can you give an overview of the advanced stats of players the Hawks are rumored to be looking at? And can you do so even if they turn the page to another topic?


Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
I thought about dropping him down from Philly at slot #11, but it wasn't a full disattachment, I guess the medical reports will help a team take or break their interest in him...

If this partial tear scares off teams past slot 15 you try and make trade to get him....

- wiz1901


Why the flip of Cozens and Turcotte at #3, Wiz? New news or just a feel? ........Think Cozens has the IQ/vision to be a top 6 C in the NHL?..... Looked at film on Dach, good God. To work the edges like he does at his size, have that kind of vision/IQ and soft hands he's become the guy IMO that will cause GM's the most angst in the whole draft. If he were consistent zero doubt a top 3 or higher........ A dominant #1 C or a 3C enigma.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 9 @ 10:40 AM ET
Corey Perry is now the latest example of what happens when you give mega $$ 8 year contracts: productions begins to fall off, as injurys and loss playing time increase. He has two years left...the ducks blogger expects a buyout. Yep...no one is taking perry even for 2 years at an 8 mil cap hit unless the ducks eat at least 50% of it.
- bogiedoc

I can see Ken Holland thinking real deep on how he could swing a Perry for Lucic deal.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:46 AM ET
I can see Ken Holland thinking real deep on how he could swing a Perry for Lucic deal.
- RickJ


Yo Rick, you see who's averaging the 2nd amount of 5 on 5 ice time for STL? Bouwmeester! Think we were in agreement that this is a guy who is helpful early in the season. .......... With his exquisite stride I see Broberg as a Bouwmeester type player. Big player, unparalleled skating, ice time gobbler on a Finals team.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
I can see Ken Holland thinking real deep on how he could swing a Perry for Lucic deal.
- RickJ


With the seeming death of the bridge deal this why oranIzations have to hit on the right players to give big money to to kids coming of their ELC's or as RFA's, the Schmaltz' of the world. Pay em or move em cuz we're gonna have so many Ericksson's, Lucic's and Perry's.

Better to do nothing than take risks on these kinds.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jun 9 @ 10:52 AM ET
I read that Pesce in Carolina might be available. Although he would cost most to acquire he’d be an upgrade over Leddy and Hickey.
- DarthKane

Pass on hickey and leddy see what it would take to get pesce. 2020 1st sikrua Perlini gust or forsling or one of are highly touted d prospects for pesce 2019 3rd and a prospect.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
Yo Rick, you see who's averaging the 2nd amount of 5 on 5 ice time for STL? Bouwmeester! Think we were in agreement that this is a guy who is helpful early in the season. .......... With his exquisite stride I see Broberg as a Bouwmeester type player. Big player, unparalleled skating, ice time gobbler on a Finals team.
- Mr Ricochet

Yes sir, I remember those posts about who would be a great trade deadline pickup. Bouwmeester always could play defence because he can skate, has size is rarely injured and most importantly knows how to play the game. Doug Armstrong even gave him another 1 year extension. Not bad for a 17 year veteran.

Been thinking about Broberg too. Might the Hawks pull a surprise and choose him?
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 10:58 AM ET
I thought about dropping him down from Philly at slot #11, but it wasn't a full disattachment, I guess the medical reports will help a team take or break their interest in him...

If this partial tear scares off teams past slot 15 you try and make trade to get him....

- wiz1901


This is incredibly horrible news. Krebs and his family have worked his whole life to get to the NHL draft, and this kid is a worker if nothing else, and then an achillies. ..... No way this can't hurt his stock, a matter of how much. Simply said he's added risk to his stock.

As the saying goes with every tragedy there is opportunity. NHL organIzations will try to extract value out of him now.
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:03 AM ET
Wow LBR, you still post here?? The times I get here I don't see you posting.......... Regardless a question. I see Major Jr is keeping some in depth fancies, are you aware? If so can you give an overview of the advanced stats of players the Hawks are rumored to be looking at? And can you do so even if they turn the page to another topic?
- Mr Ricochet
Just started posting again very recently. I have access to some CHL and USDP data from a tracking project plus general shot numbers - below are some charts. The data is for about half a season tracked, so it's not fully complete yet.








Just to note on Caulfield, there is a lot of red but it's mostly in fields that he was not tasked to perform, particularly exit/entry tasks because he was on a line with Hughes.

I have Boqvist and Beaudin's charts as well if anyone wants them for comp with Byram. And I can look up others to see if there is data for them - just let me know.
Mr Ricochet
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 04.19.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:17 AM ET
Yes sir, I remember those posts about who would be a great trade deadline pickup. Bouwmeester always could play defence because he can skate, has size is rarely injured and most importantly knows how to play the game. Doug Armstrong even gave him another 1 year extension. Not bad for a 17 year veteran.

Been thinking about Broberg too. Might the Hawks pull a surprise and choose him?

- RickJ


Bouwmeester is like a Carlton Fisk to me. Kind of athlete that gets it, is a pros pro.

After watching film on Broberg my immediate thought was Bouwmeester due to their off the charts skating. Skaters as Jrs you see they are different just in warmups their skating is so pristine...... Then I read scouting reports questioning Broberg's IQ.

With the #3 and if they like a Dach or Zegras or Boldy who knows what they would get for moving down, assets to add to to move into a the middle of the 1st to get a Broberg after they draft a Zegras?

Point is to many fans a Bouwmeester who puts up 25-30 points is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay undervalued.

I'm watching rd 2 as closely as rd 1. Watching Beecher live I can't get the kid out of my mind. A big big strong center he's at full speed in 2-3 strides and good on his edges. Kinda kid in jrs you fear with his skating/speed/size combo he could cripple someone out there........ In interviews he mentions with Hughes and Zegras ahead of him at the C position he needed to find ways to help his TEAM. Win a draw, kill a penalty, play physical. A guy with his talent and that kinda mindset his floor is really high. Top end 3C floor who can knock people down, play at a high pace, chip in with an already NHL shot as a shutdown guy.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:19 AM ET
I can see Ken Holland thinking real deep on how he could swing a Perry for Lucic deal.
- RickJ



lucic and the ducks...a match made in heaven....
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 11:21 AM ET
Bouwmeester is like a Carlton Fisk to me. Kind of athlete that gets it, is a pros pro.

After watching film on Broberg my immediate thought was Bouwmeester due to their off the charts skating. Skaters as Jrs you see they are different just in warmups their skating is so pristine...... Then I read scouting reports questioning Broberg's IQ.

With the #3 and if they like a Dach or Zegras or Boldy who knows what they would get for moving down, assets to add to to move into a the middle of the 1st to get a Broberg after they draft a Zegras?

Point is to many fans a Bouwmeester who puts up 25-30 points is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay undervalued.

I'm watching rd 2 as closely as rd 1. Watching Beecher live I can't get the kid out of my mind. A big big strong center he's at full speed in 2-3 strides and good on his edges. Kinda kid in jrs you fear with his skating/speed/size combo he could cripple someone out there........ In interviews he mentions with Hughes and Zegras ahead of him at the C position he needed to find ways to help his TEAM. Win a draw, kill a penalty, play physical. A guy with his talent and that kinda mindset his floor is really high. Top end 3C floor who can knock people down, play at a high pace, chip in with an already NHL shot as a shutdown guy.

- Mr Ricochet


a classy guy...however i thought he was done as a dman the last two years but he has been very good and dependable in these playoff...he is a guy i would luv to see win this cup...other than that you can (frank) the rest of the blues...
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
Just started posting again very recently. I have access to some CHL and USDP data from a tracking project plus general shot numbers - below are some charts. The data is for about half a season tracked, so it's not fully complete yet.








Just to note on Caulfield, there is a lot of red but it's mostly in fields that he was not tasked to perform, particularly exit/entry tasks because he was on a line with Hughes.

I have Boqvist and Beaudin's charts as well if anyone wants them for comp with Byram. And I can look up others to see if there is data for them - just let me know.

- L_B_R


Love to see Boqvist and Beaudin's charts for comparison!
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 9 @ 11:23 AM ET
I read that Pesce in Carolina might be available. Although he would cost most to acquire he’d be an upgrade over Leddy and Hickey.
- DarthKane



Yeah, Hickey and Leddy seem like more like players who don't help the direction they are looking for, guys that have all around quickness and add shot blocking AND LEAN as the play defense.

Sure the Blackhawks have "assets' we just don't know if the rest of the league places as high a value on them long term, if we want to jettison them.

Not sure Pesce is a easy exit for Carolina unless they see something I don't. I thought he was a nice part of the big four (minus Hamilton who was the five) and good up and down the ice. I am green he costs you in more than on aspect.

I like the idea of seeing if Columbus will take a player and alter pick(s) for reclamation of Ryan Murray.

I ma most curious as to how quickly the hawks try and sign their own...and if they can keep the $ down, because Taylor Hall is starting to look Tavares like in his wait and see comments about re-upping in New Jersey.

If he had interest, I sure think he is worth a boatload of that Cap space.

And you all are correct: the Kane and Toews contracts are looking much sweeter after you look at what Skinner and the others are signing for....
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 9 @ 11:28 AM ET
Yes sir, I remember those posts about who would be a great trade deadline pickup. Bouwmeester always could play defence because he can skate, has size is rarely injured and most importantly knows how to play the game. Doug Armstrong even gave him another 1 year extension. Not bad for a 17 year veteran.

Been thinking about Broberg too. Might the Hawks pull a surprise and choose him?

- RickJ


I have loved him awhile, when the pundits got puppy love for Bowen B.

This WOULD be a player you might drop for and fetch some other early pick.

(oh, and bet, Craig waffle Button had him in his top four after Ivan Hlinka tourney (or at least that is what he said on the telecasts)

Now Craig mock #4 he has "vaulted to #7...

https://www.draftsite.com...yer/philip-broberg/32317/
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
and I wonder stat wise:

I would think the prospects ability to aid entry into the attack some might be a new higher priority.
(Byram to my eyeballs, since he is always Up and not back, is really fluid at the junior level at entering the attack zone.)
L_B_R
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.23.2014

Jun 9 @ 11:44 AM ET
Love to see Boqvist and Beaudin's charts for comparison!
- walleyeb1




London and Drummondville ran their d-men pretty differently and Beaudin/Boqvist were used in different roles on top of that. Vancouver (Byram) are a bit closer to Drummondville is style than London imo.
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