Why is nobody talking about Anders Lee as a potential FA signing?? Would fit in Chicago like a glove. Probably won’t command anything north of $6.5m max. Leader, 28 yo, unhappy in New York. Would solve all of the depth issues at c.

Why is nobody talking about Anders Lee as a potential FA signing?? Would fit in Chicago like a glove. Probably won’t command anything north of $6.5m max. Leader, 28 yo, unhappy in New York. Would solve all of the depth issues at c.
- Trammelt

Lee is reportedly asking for a $7M x 7 year deal. Lamoriello is not keen on serving that up but is working on whatever he can to resigning their captain.

Is Lee worth pursuing? Sure, but those terms are pretty rich for the Hawks to fill a need that isn't a priority. More of a want to have than a need to have. All those factors aside, I'd love to see him in a Hawks sweater.

Lee is reportedly asking for a $7M x 7 year deal. Lamoriello is not keen on serving that up but is working on whatever he can to resigning their captain.

Is Lee worth pursuing? Sure, but those terms are pretty rich for the Hawks to fill a need that isn't a priority. More of a want to have than a need to have. All those factors aside, I'd love to see him in a Hawks sweater.
- AEL_Fox

And the stickler is the term, not necessarily the amount according to reports. Isles don't want to go over 5 years, Lee doesn't want to go under 7. It's possible they can get less term if they raise the amount but who knows.

And the stickler is the term, not necessarily the amount according to reports. Isles don't want to go over 5 years, Lee doesn't want to go under 7. It's possible they can get less term if they raise the amount but who knows.
- L_B_R

Cool, thanks for the additional intel. Higher AAV still likely not in the Hawks' wheel house. They can get a couple of depth players at forward and defense for the same amount.

Welcome back, btw! You were missed so happy to see you posting again.

Your last sentence is kind of a moot point for a couple of reasons. First, as Chuck said, the last 3 winners all have players making around or more than Skinner.

But more importantly, the cap % of a $9m contract for the upcoming season is going to be around 10.8% which is just in line with Tarasenko's $7.5m contract at 10.3% when he signed. They're essentially being paid the same cap share at signing but their amounts are different because of the cap increasing.

And to note, the Bruins have two players that were signed to 10%+ cap shares when they signed (Bergeron, Krejci). Ovechkin was at 16.8% when he signed his contract.When Boston won in 2011, Chara's contract was at $7.5m, a whopping 17.1% of the cap at signing, which is one of the highest cap shares ever. 10-15% cap shares is pretty much the norm for elite players on teams (unless they haven't quite proven it yet).

Cap share or % at signing is more important for comparison of contracts for RFA/UFAs because it accounts for the rise in cap.
- L_B_R

And I think a lot of people forget that when they say we should sign ADB to a $5M bridge deal.

Lee is reportedly asking for a $7M x 7 year deal. Lamoriello is not keen on serving that up but is working on whatever he can to resigning their captain.

Is Lee worth pursuing? Sure, but those terms are pretty rich for the Hawks to fill a need that isn't a priority. More of a want to have than a need to have. All those factors aside, I'd love to see him in a Hawks sweater.
- AEL_Fox

Lee is listed as a C/W but I thought he mostly played wing. Do we know if he would really play center for us? And if yes - wouldn't he be the 3C with Toews and Strome on the top two lines? And if yes, should we be paying a 3C the kind of money Lee will be getting?

Lee is listed as a C/W but I thought he mostly played wing. Do we know if he would really play center for us? And if yes - wouldn't he be the 3C with Toews and Strome on the top two lines? And if yes, should we be paying a 3C the kind of money Lee will be getting?
- EbonyRaptor

Owners are back to paying crazy $$$$$$ on contracts. He is gonna get big money where ever he goes.

Why is nobody talking about Anders Lee as a potential FA signing?? Would fit in Chicago like a glove. Probably won’t command anything north of $6.5m max. Leader, 28 yo, unhappy in New York. Would solve all of the depth issues at c.
- Trammelt

Good forward but not what the team needs.

Lee is listed as a C/W but I thought he mostly played wing. Do we know if he would really play center for us? And if yes - wouldn't he be the 3C with Toews and Strome on the top two lines? And if yes, should we be paying a 3C the kind of money Lee will be getting?
- EbonyRaptor

A 3c who is decent at faceoffs, chip in goals, and be counted on for some pk time won't be cheap, but not 7 schmil. Arty's aav is good for 3c. Upgrade him or keep him, I'm fine either way. I say pass on Lee. I think he stays an Islander anyway.

A 3c who is decent at faceoffs, chip in goals, and be counted on for some pk time won't be cheap, but not 7 schmil. Arty's aav is good for 3c. Upgrade him or keep him, I'm fine either way. I say pass on Lee. I think he stays an Islander anyway.
- I Am The Breadman

Cody Eakin... 1 yr left at 3.85M.

Get it done Stan.

Lee is listed as a C/W but I thought he mostly played wing. Do we know if he would really play center for us? And if yes - wouldn't he be the 3C with Toews and Strome on the top two lines? And if yes, should we be paying a 3C the kind of money Lee will be getting?
- EbonyRaptor

Lee would never be the 3C - he's pretty much exclusively a LW. He's a 2nd line quality offensively but you'd probably see a dip in overall numbers unless he's given top PP unit time; he's also responsible enough defensively but nothing to suggest he should kill penalties (which he doesn't do now) so no addition in that regard either.

Just to note, Strome also isn't a lock for 2C if the Hawks were to upgrade their center position. Anisimov was actually back to getting the more minutes at 5v5 over Strome at the end of the season - same way Saad was getting more minutes than Debrincat. If the Hawks were looking at players like K.Hayes, they were likely interested in a 2C quality player so they could continue the 2A/AB line situation they had going on the last quarter of the season.

Lee just isn't that player because he isn't a center.

Cody Eakin... 1 yr left at 3.85M.

Get it done Stan.
- Tyler Cameron

I'll second that motion.

Cody Eakin... 1 yr left at 3.85M.

Get it done Stan.
- Tyler Cameron

Hey Tyler any trade whispers besides Murry involving the hawks? IMO Hawks need to take advantage of teams in or going to be in cap hell Vegas San Jose Washington Winnipeg etc.. So Stan stop napping and lets get going!!

Cody Eakin... 1 yr left at 3.85M.

Get it done Stan.
- Tyler Cameron

I hope that this is the way Stan participates when the "stupid season" starts. Take advantage of desperate overspent GM's for players on reasonable short term deals.

The Toews and Kane deals are starting to look better and better. They are the type that make a difference -players who make others around them better. A guy having a breakout season playing alongside one of the league's best centers does not deserve $9M x 8.

This is the discussion time on the phone with other GMs just groundwork time where you see how extensive their possible house cleaning is going to be and the weeks leading up to the draft are when the friendly conversations end and the specifics with REAL trade partners start taking place right before the draft when everybody is in person so hold your horses everyone!

This is the discussion time on the phone with other GMs just groundwork time where you see how extensive their possible house cleaning is going to be and the weeks leading up to the draft are when the friendly conversations end and the specifics with REAL trade partners start taking place right before the draft when everybody is in person so hold your horses everyone!
- wiz1901

I'm going to guess no trades likely until the finals are done and the week of the draft and on draft day.

How dumb can they get? In Buffalo it's as dumb as it gets, Skinner has a Mogilny year , without the big finish and somehow it is worth 9 mil for 8 years, for Cap purposes. Skinner is a Good Player, not a great one and having him didn't result in making the playoffs, so why? NHL GM's have the tools in their Tool Box to manage salaries, but almost all have no idea on how to manage the Cap. NHL with it's Guaranteed Contracts should result in Lower Cap hits when the player wants more term, instead they seem to get the Max for the full term. When will they learn? Hopefully soon or ADB and Strome will get the 8 and 6.5 that have been suggested for eight years. They like Skinner have Won nothing, so don't overpay to keep your team the same, the over 8 mil contracts are for difference makers, not nice players to have.

How dumb can they get? In Buffalo it's as dumb as it gets, Skinner has a Mogilny year , without the big finish and somehow it is worth 9 mil for 8 years, for Cap purposes. Skinner is a Good Player, not a great one and having him didn't result in making the playoffs, so why? NHL GM's have the tools in their Tool Box to manage salaries, but almost all have no idea on how to manage the Cap. NHL with it's Guaranteed Contracts should result in Lower Cap hits when the player wants more term, instead they seem to get the Max for the full term. When will they learn? Hopefully soon or ADB and Strome will get the 8 and 6.5 that have been suggested for eight years. They like Skinner have Won nothing, so don't overpay to keep your team the same, the over 8 mil contracts are for difference makers, not nice players to have.
- Hawks1961

Just like the O'Reilly. Trade in which they got crap back.

How dumb can they get? In Buffalo it's as dumb as it gets, Skinner has a Mogilny year , without the big finish and somehow it is worth 9 mil for 8 years, for Cap purposes. Skinner is a Good Player, not a great one and having him didn't result in making the playoffs, so why? NHL GM's have the tools in their Tool Box to manage salaries, but almost all have no idea on how to manage the Cap. NHL with it's Guaranteed Contracts should result in Lower Cap hits when the player wants more term, instead they seem to get the Max for the full term. When will they learn? Hopefully soon or ADB and Strome will get the 8 and 6.5 that have been suggested for eight years. They like Skinner have Won nothing, so don't overpay to keep your team the same, the over 8 mil contracts are for difference makers, not nice players to have.
- Hawks1961

That's the reason you trade them both ++ for a Draisaitl/Nurse, that two way players are worth the same as one way players defies all logic. I would even do this trade for Draisaitl alone in a heartbeat.

My ++ would be Forsling, Perlini/Sikura but giving the that I'd ask for Puuljujarvi
and their 1st....They need forwards and cap space, we need players this trade
works for both teams.

Cody Eakin... 1 yr left at 3.85M.

Get it done Stan.
- Tyler Cameron

How about Brandon Tanev not a center but a UFA, I wonder what it take to get this spark plug out of Winnipeg.

Read on the Hockey Buzz Montreal blog that they will be focusing on defensemen at this year's draft since they selected a lot of centers last year.

That got to me to thinking about a possible Hawks-Canadiens trade. What does everyone think about Danault, 2 years left at 3.1M before he becomes a UFA for Beaudin. Stan redeems himself for trading Danault in the first place. He can be the 3C, play the PK, and is 1.5M cheaper than Anisimov making him expendable. If Hawks draft Bowen he basically replaces Beaudin in the pipeline. Montreal gets a young French Canadian defenseman who would be more NHL ready than anybody they draft this year.

Would you do this trade?

Read on the Hockey Buzz Montreal blog that they will be focusing on defensemen at this year's draft since they selected a lot of centers last year.

That got to me to thinking about a possible Hawks-Canadiens trade. What does everyone think about Danault, 2 years left at 3.1M before he becomes a UFA for Beaudin. Stan redeems himself for trading Danault in the first place. He can be the 3C, play the PK, and is 1.5M cheaper than Anisimov making him expendable. If Hawks draft Bowen he basically replaces Beaudin in the pipeline. Montreal gets a young French Canadian defenseman who would be more NHL ready than anybody they draft this year.

Would you do this trade?
- boilermaker100

Another option is Beaudin for center Ryan Poehling, Montreal's 1st round draft choice in 2017. He's on the second year of his ELC. Here's a link to Wiz' scouting report from 2017: https://www.draftsite.com...ayer/ryan-poehling/26220/

Don't know how he compares to Turcotte or Cozens, but if the Hawks draft Bowen, they'll also have another young center in their place, who would probably be ready to play this season.

How about Brandon Tanev not a center but a UFA, I wonder what it take to get this spark plug out of Winnipeg.
- walleyeb1

Tanev should be Stan’s #1 UFA target.

Another option is Beaudin for center Ryan Poehling, Montreal's 1st round draft choice in 2017. He's on the second year of his ELC. Here's a link to Wiz' scouting report from 2017: https://www.draftsite.com...ayer/ryan-poehling/26220/

Don't know how he compares to Turcotte or Cozens, but if the Hawks draft Bowen, they'll also have another young center in their place, who would probably be ready to play this season.
- boilermaker100

I’d do that trade, I doubt Montreal would.

I’d do that trade, I doubt Montreal would.
- DarthKane

Why not? I read somewhere that Montreal was interested in Beaudin at last year's draft. As a French Canadian I am sure they would love to have him. They have Nick Suziki as a center along with about 5 other centers that they drafted last year in their pipeline. Maybe they see Poehler being expendable.