So the Jets should take on all the risk, even though they have all the leverage in contract negotiations?
- BWJumper

not what I said. I said if they believe in him he has a very high ceiling with the potential to make an 8x10 look like a bargain. If they don't believe in his character including off-ice commitment, team-player, coachability etc. then a bridge or even a trade make sense.

benny - this point should not go unnoticed ! ... it is very true and - my guess, only a guess cause I'm not in the dressing room - is that it probably has impacted team morale

The one and only reason I'd keep Laine (2 yr bridge contract, preferred) is that one stat - - - - only Ovechkin has more goals since Laine entered the league ... that is a POWERFUL accomplishment .... but the rest of his game - aside from some incredible passing here and there - is really lacking

Then - you have ultra serious guys like Scheifs who's continually trying to improve off-season (workouts, Brady's chef/diet, etc) and during the season ... and ya have this kid who is playing FortNite all the time who's expecting to make more than the Scheifs - that's gotta be tough on team morale ... like, WTF ?
- CorydonKeith

I like how MacKinnon (an obviously better player on the same contract as shief). Has handled these types of questions in regards to teammates making more than him.

This is not a Laine vrs the team issue, all teams will have players who work hard off the ice and those that don’t. Pitt won a couple cups with kessel because the leadership in that room valued what he did on the ice more than off.
Is laine’s Off ice work ethic a concern, possibly? But if shief or anyone has a huge issue with it, their immaturity and lack of leadership in how it’s handled does to

The contract is good ... getting the 11th pick is good ... LHD is good ... I'm not that familiar with his game, however

Rexy-man ... give us the numbers !!!
- CorydonKeith

I like the deal but with niku, Samberg and I suppose Stanley all being left handed I think we are entering desperate times for some future right shot D in the system

not what I said. I said if they believe in him he has a very high ceiling with the potential to make an 8x10 look like a bargain. If they don't believe in his character including off-ice commitment, team-player, coachability etc. then a bridge or even a trade make sense.
- 2.0

What's a bargain for 10 million in your opinion? Cause if you are the Jets you look at the fact he just put up 50 points in 82 games.

What's a bargain for 10 million in your opinion? Cause if you are the Jets you look at the fact he just put up 50 points in 82 games.
- BWJumper

50 goals/season and demands attention from opposition on the ice both at even strength and PP is a bargain at 10m. In 2018/19 teams could shut down the line by keying on the others.

Keep in mind that salaries will go up and are probably best viewed as a % of the cap. 3 years from now he scores 50 and is a constant threat for less money than McD, Mathews, Marner, Tavares, Benn for around 11% of the cap.

I have never said they should or should not do it. I just raised the question of 'do they believe in his character' enough to invest in him longer term.

I like the deal but with niku, Samberg and I suppose Stanley all being left handed I think we are entering desperate times for some future right shot D in the system
- Ross77

Agree with your point re LH d-men in system. My hope is that Trouba, and whoever, bring back a solid RH d-man. (with a long-term contract)

Agree with your point re LH d-men in system. My hope is that Trouba, and whoever, bring back a solid RH d-man. (with a long-term contract)
- grahamzky

agreed. for me as long as it is a solid RHD I am less concerned about age if the return includes a high pick or solid prospect. If we get 3 good years out of a vet and a prospect that is ready to step in after that its a fair trade.

I like the deal but with niku, Samberg and I suppose Stanley all being left handed I think we are entering desperate times for some future right shot D in the system
- Ross77

For your information, Gostisbehere can also play the right side as well. He played at that position with the Flyers in 2018-19.

agreed. for me as long as it is a solid RHD I am less concerned about age if the return includes a high pick or solid prospect. If we get 3 good years out of a vet and a prospect that is ready to step in after that its a fair trade.
- 2.0

Niku prefers playing the right side. And, if people are right about Tucker Poolman, who I have named “the messiah” (as some posters believe that he is better than Myers, despite only playing 300 NHL minutes and being 26), maybe we don’t need any right side defensemen.

id trade Kyle Connor for Noah Dobson if islanders would take it. And I like Connor!!!

Or could also look at Roslovic for Wilde

I've read a tweet from Elliott Friedman who said he has heard rumblings that Nolan Patrick could be available. So I'm suggesting a blockbuster trade between the Flyers and the Jets which could look like:

To Winnipeg: 11th overall pick, Nolan Patrick, and Shayne Gostisbehere

To Philadelphia: Jacob Trouba, Jack Roslovic, and a 2nd round pick.

So Trouba = 11th pick and Gostisbehere

So Roslovic and a 2nd = Nolan Patrick (former second overall selection and a Winnipeg native)

I've read a tweet from Elliott Friedman who said he has heard rumblings that Nolan Patrick could be available. So I'm suggesting a blockbuster trade between the Flyers and the Jets which could look like:

To Winnipeg: 11th overall pick, Nolan Patrick, and Shayne Gostisbehere

To Philadelphia: Jacob Trouba, Jack Roslovic, and a 2nd round pick.

So Trouba = 11th pick and Gostisbehere

So Roslovic and a 2nd = Nolan Patrick (former second overall selection and a Winnipeg native)
- batman8990

As a Jets fan I would make that deal. I doubt Philly would, they just have to wait a year and they can have Roslovic in exchange for what the Jets got for Petan.

As a Jets fan I would make that deal. I doubt Philly would, they just have to wait a year and they can have Roslovic in exchange for what the Jets got for Petan.
- BWJumper

Except that's not true - Roslovic can be a key NHL player - Petan, having shown what he has shown so far, a dominant AHL'er. No wonder Jacko was pee'd off when he got benched during the playoffs, it wasn't him giving it 70% and playing 1st line power play with Scheif and Wheeler.

As a Jets fan I would make that deal. I doubt Philly would, they just have to wait a year and they can have Roslovic in exchange for what the Jets got for Petan.
- BWJumper

This

Except that's not true - Roslovic can be a key NHL player - Petan, having shown what he has shown so far, a dominant AHL'er. No wonder Jacko was pee'd off when he got benched during the playoffs, it wasn't him giving it 70% and playing 1st line power play with Scheif and Wheeler.
- grahamzky

Jets fans may like Roslovic, but the fact was he was benched and for who, Hendricks.
Where are you putting him in the Jets lineup. Second line C (lol). Third line checking winger with Lowry and Copp.
Maurice will put him back on the fourth line where he will get 8 mins a game. Then at the end of the year he will be nearly the same age as Petan when he was traded.

Jets fans may like Roslovic, but the fact was he was benched and for who, Hendricks.
Where are you putting him in the Jets lineup. Second line C (lol). Third line checking winger with Lowry and Copp.
Maurice will put him back on the fourth line where he will get 8 mins a game. Then at the end of the year he will be nearly the same age as Petan when he was traded.
- BWJumper

2nd or 3rd line winger. Maybe develop into 2nd line centre that we currently lack.
Realize that Jacko didn't put up many pts but being benched for Hendricks was probably why he was upset - when he had a lot more effort than some of the "star" players, and just need the opportunity. Hopefully that opportunity comes this year - with the Jets.

2nd or 3rd line winger. Maybe develop into 2nd line centre that we currently lack.
Realize that Jacko didn't put up many pts but being benched for Hendricks was probably why he was upset - when he had a lot more effort than some of the "star" players, and just need the opportunity. Hopefully that opportunity comes this year - with the Jets.
- grahamzky

Jack had more points per minute played than Copp, Lowry, Tanev, and others.
Just saying, if he didn’t produce when given the chance what does it say about these others?

Jack had more points per minute played than Copp, Lowry, Tanev, and others.
Just saying, if he didn’t produce when given the chance what does it say about these others?
- Ross77

👍 The right questions are essential to obtaining the right answer and this is one of the right questions. Another may be, Is it a shortcoming of Pomo that he won't experiment with the lines?.....

The thing is that an 8x10m could look genius 3 years from now. Does Chevy believe in Laine's character enough to commit to that? I guess we will see.
- 2.0

Eye test only but these long term deals with YOUNG players seem to look like bargains down the line .... maybe I'm just looking at players like Scheifs and MacKinnon

Long term deals on players in their late 20's/early 30's look horrible ... as an aside, however, notice that Toews & P Kane had career years on pts ... but their big contracts aren't doing much to help build the supporting cast

If this was not a Cap league (with revenue sharing) doubt we'd have a team in Winnipeg ... but what a balancing act !

Except that's not true - Roslovic can be a key NHL player - Petan, having shown what he has shown so far, a dominant AHL'er. No wonder Jacko was pee'd off when he got benched during the playoffs, it wasn't him giving it 70% and playing 1st line power play with Scheif and Wheeler.
- grahamzky

I think Roslovic was also a dominant AHL hockey player. Furthermore, when Petan was paired with Wheeler and Scheifele he produced. The coaching staff has something against players producing in the AHL.

I think Roslovic was also a dominant AHL hockey player. Furthermore, when Petan was paired with Wheeler and Scheifele he produced. The coaching staff has something against players producing in the AHL.
- TheUltimateJet

I think the Jet's main issues are stemming from the refusal to split up Scheifele and Wheeler.

Players like Roslovic and Vesalainen weren't exactly given a chance this past season with proper deployment to their strengths..

Tough offseason for Chevy, he's got three question marks minimum in Roslovic, Vesalainen and Appleton who could break out from proper deployment next season if put in a position to succeed..