I see the upside to Kadri but I also see the downside. He's proven he is undisciplined and frankly can't be trusted. Going into these playoffs one of the big talking points was, could Kadri keep his cool and help the Leafs or would he lose his poop again and hurt the Leafs in the process. And like clockwork, he did the latter. I'd prefer the Hawks steer clear.
- paulr

Concur, I vacillate from "pass" to "hard pass" on Kadri. He's hurt the Leafs, his own team, 2 years in a row in the playoffs.

CHI 3rd for LA 5th and 22nd
CHI 3rd for BUF 7th and 30th

Neither LA or Buffalo are giving up two picks in the first round to barely move up a few spots since Hughes and Kakko will be gone already.
- Shuswap Wap

I think the LA trade could make some sense if LA really wants either Bowen or Turcotte. the Buf trade we would never do unless they sweetened the pot. at 5 you get the pick of Cozens, dach and Zeg. Also I sense Bromberg goes top 10. caufield for me is not a fit on the hawks. I think he slides a bit push comes to shove. my guess is 9-12.

I think hayden and Forsling could go in hockey trades with teams. I don't see a package deal with AA with either SAAS or Kieth. his value will be to teams after July 1 after some of the tier 1 and 2 players sign contracts. and it will be prospects IMO that is not looking like he can be protected in EXP.

I would not trade any of the Big 4 D this year. I think Mitchell will be one of the top 3 D in all of NCAA and will be a HB finalist. Beudin will be the top D in the rock unless boquist plays and is a bit under the radar by other then hawks fans. A big year in the rock will increase his value. Boquist is still only 18 on until Aug 15th. he is basically a full year younger then quinn hughes. I think this is going to be his break out year much like the 2nd 1/2 of his season last year. Maybe a top 10 prospect in all of hockey. Joker should be playing top 4 minutes in the NHL. was also young still only 19 and only 4 months older then quinn, I think all the guys have good value. I think they all will have huge value after this season.

SAAD+PICK+Forsling for a good D I would consider? unless a top 4 d is coming back I keep SAAD.
Keith- Florida would make a lot of sense. maybe trockeck
the only reason I would move keith would be. he had a good year and will probably never have higher value. Can you have a D with a aging Keith who is slowing down along with Seabs abd Murph who are both slow. having those guys on 3 lines is just to slow for the new NHL speed.

I still hope that Hayes wants to come to CHI. I think he could be a good line with SAAD and Kubalik.

A good D from Carolina for a package around SAAD, a good forward for a package around Keith. nquist or dzingel 5 X 5 for the 3rd line.

OK so Forsling and SAAD for Pesce, AA after july 1st for a 5th all to carolina. Kieth for Trocheck

not so sure about the Crawford hiring, i mean this is the guy who left the greatest hockey player ever sit on the bench and let Ray fricken Bourque shoot in the 98 olympics.

THREE NEW THINGS quickly;

Marc Crawford addition sticks of a higher than Stan Bowman decision and also looks like the new intermediary head coach if and when they fire JC.
Does it add pressure con him? No it might offer some sound aids and experience.

And for what it is worth, I never saw Marc Crawford end anybody's career yet.

A Saad + Anisimov subtraction would fund a Trouba addition. I ma not advocating it but think they can't upgrade the dee unless some team trades them a defenseman they are willing sign long term.

I an not sure you want to trade down and out of three even if each and every one of US thinks we "know" there is one prospect still there at 5 or 7 who will be "just" as good.
- wiz1901

I think you're right on this one.

Tyler:.... Dylan Crawford Is one of the Hawks video coaches, sounds to me like his dad possibly has had more than a few occasions to interact with Jeremy Colliton,Today’s Chicago Tribune is the story on it. And breaks it down.
- wonthecup10

That's what they need - more nepotism.

not so sure about the Crawford hiring, i mean this is the guy who left the greatest hockey player ever sit on the bench and let Ray fricken Bourque shoot in the 98 olympics.
- SaskHawkFan

Ummm Bobby Orr was the greatest ever but I get your point.

not so sure about the Crawford hiring, i mean this is the guy who left the greatest hockey player ever sit on the bench and let Ray fricken Bourque shoot in the 98 olympics.
- SaskHawkFan

The last time Crawford did anything of note as a head coach in the NHL was in the 1990s. We might as well have hired Mike Keenan.

Plenty of posters here may not have been born yet.

His competence as a coach to me is secondary to being a scumbag as a person.

THREE NEW THINGS quickly;

Marc Crawford addition sticks of a higher than Stan Bowman decision and also looks like the new intermediary head coach if and when they fire JC.
Does it add pressure con him? No it might offer some sound aids and experience.

And for what it is worth, I never saw Marc Crawford end anybody's career yet.

A Saad + Anisimov subtraction would fund a Trouba addition. I ma not advocating it but think they can't upgrade the dee unless some team trades them a defenseman they are willing sign long term.

I an not sure you want to trade down and out of three even if each and every one of US thinks we "know" there is one prospect still there at 5 or 7 who will be "just" as good.
- wiz1901

I have been preaching for Stan to stay away from long-term, high cost signings....BUT....
If he did want to go this way, a stud Top-4 D-man like Trouba is the way to go.

Young enough to still be soilid when the stable of young Hawk D-men begin hitting their prime in 3-4 years ( we have several...Mitchell.Joker, Beaudin, Boqvist...maybe Byram...).

It also slots our aging guys better right away as you have a 20+ minute stud added to the top 4, letting Keith and Seabrook take on a lesser role, and in turn, hopefully, improving their quality of play.

Hopefully if Stan PAYS in term and $$$$ for anybody, it is a D-man. And a good one!

I have no inside track on the reason Joki was sent down but the fact is that by keeping Joki below 40 games played in the NHL they in effect "bought" themselves one more RFA year of Joki. If he had played 40+ games, he would have become UFA 1 year sooner than he will now because he was held under 40 NHL games.

I think that could have been and probably was the reason Joki was sent down more so than because Colliton didn't like him. But I could be wrong.
- EbonyRaptor

Solid point!!! And if Stan is trying to navigate the Cap going forward, thinking 2-3 years ahead is key. An extra year of an affordable Joker would be a big plus!

Ummm Bobby Orr was the greatest ever but I get your point.
- paulr

Ahh sorry that would be Wayne Van Dorp

Wasn't that a move to keep his year / eligibility pushed back AND to actually try and get him some needed developmental time.

If he is gone, not the end of the world, he hasn't really stood out to me past being young and skilled, not necessarily dominate in any way.
- wiz1901

Granted he still can’t legally buy alcohol, it might be too early to make final verdicts, but I don’t see him as anything more than a top-4. Which is obviously still a very good player, but not top pairing like some have made him out to be.

It's interesting to see one of the holdups for Alex Edler's contract in Vancouver is his NTM/NMC so he can ensure he's expansion protected.

Keep an eye out for more stories like this coming out during negotiations.

A lot of players didn't enjoy the Vegas process and are more conscious of that moving forward.

I just mentioned Keith since he was mentioned in Tyler's write up. I wonder if he has had discussions regarding waiving his NMC.

Keith to Toronto for Kadri? Kadri will fit in now that Marc Crawford is on the coaching staff.

Edit - Toronto will probably have to sweeten that deal to help them out of their cap problem.
- boilermaker100

Why would Toronto add a sweetener to a contract that doesn't save them any space? Let alone on a guy on a steep decline in play.

I think he is a reach that earlier I had him entrench in the second round but backed him up to slot #66

I didn't read the above but from the ten games of footage I saw he is everything the NHL teams could want in a Russian prospect: Tough, fast, skilled and highly offensive...
https://www.draftsite.com...ayer/daniil-misyul/31924/
- wiz1901

Hi Wiz, The first thing I did after listening to to the podcast was look at your review.

Sounds like Burke is moving him up in his draft update in mid June. He wasn’t even on my radar until I listened to that podcast, it’s #142.

https://www.nbcsports.com...chicago/podcast#HawksTalk

I also noticed he’s at #8 NHL CENTRAL SCOUTING TOP 31 EU - FINAL RANKING

https://www.eliteprospect...9/nhl-central-scouting/eu

When Brassard was with the Penguins, rumor was he was moping around the locker room a lot because he wanted to be more than a 3c (again, this was on the penguins, who are perfectly fine at 1 and 2c). Not sure he's the kind of guy the hawks would want around the locker room anyway.
- Jance

Absolutely. I put up the same argument for anyone who’s trying to bring Hayes in as a 3C. Both guys were playing like 20 minutes with lots of PP time. Why would they give it up? Makes NO SENSE from their perspectives. I doubt Brass is looking at what Toews and Strome did this year and thinks “I can beat that” lol

I think the LA trade could make some sense if LA really wants either Bowen or Turcotte. the Buf trade we would never do unless they sweetened the pot. at 5 you get the pick of Cozens, dach and Zeg. Also I sense Bromberg goes top 10. caufield for me is not a fit on the hawks. I think he slides a bit push comes to shove. my guess is 9-12.

I think hayden and Forsling could go in hockey trades with teams. I don't see a package deal with AA with either SAAS or Kieth. his value will be to teams after July 1 after some of the tier 1 and 2 players sign contracts. and it will be prospects IMO that is not looking like he can be protected in EXP.

I would not trade any of the Big 4 D this year. I think Mitchell will be one of the top 3 D in all of NCAA and will be a HB finalist. Beudin will be the top D in the rock unless boquist plays and is a bit under the radar by other then hawks fans. A big year in the rock will increase his value. Boquist is still only 18 on until Aug 15th. he is basically a full year younger then quinn hughes. I think this is going to be his break out year much like the 2nd 1/2 of his season last year. Maybe a top 10 prospect in all of hockey. Joker should be playing top 4 minutes in the NHL. was also young still only 19 and only 4 months older then quinn, I think all the guys have good value. I think they all will have huge value after this season.

SAAD+PICK+Forsling for a good D I would consider? unless a top 4 d is coming back I keep SAAD.
Keith- Florida would make a lot of sense. maybe trockeck
the only reason I would move keith would be. he had a good year and will probably never have higher value. Can you have a D with a aging Keith who is slowing down along with Seabs abd Murph who are both slow. having those guys on 3 lines is just to slow for the new NHL speed.

I still hope that Hayes wants to come to CHI. I think he could be a good line with SAAD and Kubalik.

A good D from Carolina for a package around SAAD, a good forward for a package around Keith. nquist or dzingel 5 X 5 for the 3rd line.

OK so Forsling and SAAD for Pesce, AA after july 1st for a 5th all to carolina. Kieth for Trocheck
- kmw4631

Maybe Keith gets traded to Florida (but I doubt it) but it definitely won't be for Trochek. There is no way in hell they'd do that.

The last time Crawford did anything of note as a head coach in the NHL was in the 1990s. We might as well have hired Mike Keenan.

Plenty of posters here may not have been born yet.

His competence as a coach to me is secondary to being a scumbag as a person.
- hereismike1

The talk about acquiring Trouba is enticing because he's a pretty good d-man and still only 25, but what will he cost? He signed a 1-year $5.5M deal for last season which was basically a "bet on himself" and he had his best season - played all 82 games and scored 50 points. Will he want $7M? $8M? or more? Is he worth that and can/should the Hawks pay him that much?

It's interesting to see one of the holdups for Alex Edler's contract in Vancouver is his NTM/NMC so he can ensure he's expansion protected.

Keep an eye out for more stories like this coming out during negotiations.

A lot of players didn't enjoy the Vegas process and are more conscious of that moving forward.
- Tyler Cameron

hawks probably interested in edler but adding a NMC/NT clause makes it problematic..also term...hawks would prefer a 2 year not 3 years

Just food for thought, but I'm not sure there is too much into who is who's choice as assistant coach. It is probably more of a process and at the end of the day, Stan picked Colliton as the coach. It would makes sense that he would be on board with guys Colliton works well with, because he obviously likes something about how Colliton coaches. I just don't think it is an individual thing when the coach and GM are seemingly on the same page.

Maybe Keith gets traded to Florida (but I doubt it) but it definitely won't be for Trochek. There is no way in hell they'd do that.
- GPHawksfan

2 months ago on here Keith was a 4-5-6 Dman at best and a running joke about hitting shin pads with his powder puff shot and having a bad attitude. Magically he has become the type of player who can attract a Vinnie Trocheck or Jonathan Huberdeau in trade. The trade hasn't happened yet because Stan is holding out hard for both Barkov and Ekblad as the returning pieces.

#2 moves when he alone okays it. If he goes to that f'n hockey outpost in Miami it will be on his terms. I can see it happening and the return will be draft picks mainly and some middle of the road prospect.

Maybe Keith gets traded to Florida (but I doubt it) but it definitely won't be for Trochek. There is no way in hell they'd do that.
- GPHawksfan

Agreed. Hawks would need to add more for sure if they wanted Trochek at 25 years old and 4.75 mil per season.

It's interesting to see one of the holdups for Alex Edler's contract in Vancouver is his NTM/NMC so he can ensure he's expansion protected.

Keep an eye out for more stories like this coming out during negotiations.

A lot of players didn't enjoy the Vegas process and are more conscious of that moving forward.
- Tyler Cameron

You bring up a good point Ty and I think this will impact the Hawks free agent strategy as well. The Hawks are on the right path but maybe this slows them down a bit, or at least changes their approach. Do they target guys they can sign without a NMC? I would think Tanev would get a deal similar to what Riley Nash go last summer ($2.75 million without any clauses).

keith is on record as wanting to stay with the hawks as he saw positives the last few months of the season; keith controls where he plays...this romantic notion of him being reunited with Q is nutz...

and i don't think the hawks want to trade him...for what? a couple of picks

keith is on record as wanting to stay with the hawks as he saw positives the last few months of the season; keith controls where he plays...this romantic notion of him being reunited with Q is nutz...

and i don't think the hawks want to trade him...for what? a couple of picks
- bogiedoc

i think he brings incredible value to the team, especially with all the up and coming D Core.....