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chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
Zucker was the main piece in a deal for Phil Kessel ....he isn’t a sweetener to move a couple spots in the draft ...maybe Zucker for gaudette and a 2nd might work
- Redmile247



True, he wouldnt be a sweetener, but there is no way in hell JB moves Gaudette nor a 2nd....not saying Zucker isn't worth it, its just not going to happen.....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:19 PM ET
From the CanuckWay

"Not sure if Minnesota would be interested in packaging Zucker and the No. 12 pick for Vancouver’s 10th selection, since Fenton would only be moving up two spots. Maybe additional picks could be involved to make a trade happen."

https://thecanuckway.com/...se-if-the-price-is-right/

- VanHockeyGuy




The Canuck way is not a reliable source. Bunch of Clay Imoo type bloggers that have no connection to the NHL
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:26 PM ET
True, he wouldnt be a sweetener, but there is no way in hell JB moves Gaudette nor a 2nd....not saying Zucker isn't worth it, its just not going to happen.....
- chompsey


What if JB can make a trade to acquire another 2nd ....would you do the trade then ?
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:28 PM ET
Zucker was the main piece in a deal for Phil Kessel ....he isn’t a sweetener to move a couple spots in the draft ...maybe Zucker for gaudette and a 2nd might work
- Redmile247


JB said he's not trading any young players
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:29 PM ET
What if JB can make a trade to acquire another 2nd ....would you do the trade then ?
- Redmile247



Not if it meant trading Gaudette.

More likely its Virtanen and a 3rd but man, that'd piss me off. I think the best is yet to come from Virtanen....
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:29 PM ET
The Canuck way is not a reliable source. Bunch of Clay Imoo type bloggers that have no connection to the NHL
- VANTEL

You're right.



That trade would be hilariously bad for Minny.


"Let's trade a 27 year old dude who averages 25 goals per 82 games only making 5.5M for the next few years to move up 2 spots in the draft and get an extra 2nd + 4th round pick!"


Most likely a couple of players from the Demko/Gaudette/Juolevi/Madden/Virtanen group would be involved if Benning doesn't want to trade picks.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
Benning was Giddy today when talking about Tryamkin coming back. He will finish his KHL contract then the process will begin.

Boeser contract talks are not far apart . He basically called out Daliwahl .

He is still very excited about OJ . He is seeing a doctor this week to get cleared for skating.

Edler negotiations on going . Still really want him

Very happy with combine results . They pretty well have their list in place.
"We will get a very good exciting part of the fututre"

It is my job to at least phone and inquire about all trade possibilities.

Very busy on phones

"Going to call Eriksson this week to find out about what he said . Travis and I are concerned"
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:32 PM ET
Not if it meant trading Gaudette.

More likely its Virtanen and a 3rd but man, that'd piss me off. I think the best is yet to come from Virtanen....

- chompsey



I feel like you're really underrating Zucker's trade value or overrating Jake's "potential".

Zucker averages 25 goals per 82 games if you take his totals from his last 5 seasons. He's only 27, is a great skater and makes a very reasonable 5.5M over the next 4 years, a beautiful contract in a hard cap league, especially since the cap just keeps continuing to rise.

If we had Zucker, you'd probably scoff at the idea of trading him for a Virtanen type player + 3rd round pick
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
He had 64 points followed by 42 points. The direction is down, making in a down year from the year before.
- neem55

Sorry, to me the term "down year" seemed to imply he was below average. He was perfectly average this year by his standards
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:33 PM ET
Benning was Giddy today when talking about Tryamkin coming back. He will finish his KHL contract then the process will begin.

Boeser contract talks are not far apart . He basically called out Daliwahl .

He is still very excited about OJ . He is seeing a doctor this week to get cleared for skating.

Edler negotiations on going . Still really want him

Very happy with combine results . They pretty well have their list in place.
"We will get a very good exciting part of the fututre"

It is my job to at least phone and inquire about all trade possibilities.

Very busy on phones

"Going to call Eriksson this week to find out about what he said . Travis and I are concerned"

- VANTEL


nice
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:35 PM ET
Not if it meant trading Gaudette.

More likely its Virtanen and a 3rd but man, that'd piss me off. I think the best is yet to come from Virtanen....

- chompsey


Do you think Virtanens ceiling is better than Zucker ?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:36 PM ET
JB said he's not trading any young players
- VanHockeyGuy


Well a GM has never lied about thins kinda stuff ever in the past ...
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:37 PM ET
Do you think Virtanens ceiling is better than Zucker ?
- Redmile247



Yes, if you value a speedy physical 3rd line 15 goal scorer more than a top 6 speedy 22-25 goal scorer


I would like to keep Jake as a long term 3rd liner here, but if you can bend over Fenton by trading him + a 3rd for Zucker, I'd do that in a heartbeat.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
Benning was Giddy today when talking about Tryamkin coming back. He will finish his KHL contract then the process will begin.

Boeser contract talks are not far apart . He basically called out Daliwahl .

He is still very excited about OJ . He is seeing a doctor this week to get cleared for skating.

Edler negotiations on going . Still really want him

Very happy with combine results . They pretty well have their list in place.
"We will get a very good exciting part of the fututre"

It is my job to at least phone and inquire about all trade possibilities.

Very busy on phones

"Going to call Eriksson this week to find out about what he said . Travis and I are concerned"

- VANTEL

Codes beat you to it like 3 pages ago
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
You're right.



That trade would be hilariously bad for Minny.


"Let's trade a 27 year old dude who averages 25 goals per 82 games only making 5.5M for the next few years to move up 2 spots in the draft and get an extra 2nd + 4th round pick!"


Most likely a couple of players from the Demko/Gaudette/Juolevi/Madden/Virtanen group would be involved if Benning doesn't want to trade picks.

- Nucker101


I imagine there will be one or two trades that happen that will piss off a good portion of the fan base . That said the fan base always think they know what is better for the team.

Me personally I trust this group of managers

I don't trust ownership. In fact on SN650 one of the announcers repeated about 3 or 4 times less than an hour ago that there is pressure to make the playoffs this year on the 50 th anniversary. He said he has a source tell him that there is a lot of pressure from ownership.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 5 @ 4:40 PM ET
I feel like you're really underrating Zucker's trade value or overrating Jake's "potential".

Zucker averages 25 goals per 82 games if you take his totals from his last 5 seasons. He's only 27, is a great skater and makes a very reasonable 5.5M over the next 4 years, a beautiful contract in a hard cap league, especially since the cap just keeps continuing to rise.

If we had Zucker, you'd probably scoff at the idea of trading him for a Virtanen type player + 3rd round pick

- Nucker101

Yup - virtanen plus a 3rd is a laughable offer
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:41 PM ET
I feel like you're really underrating Zucker's trade value or overrating Jake's "potential".

Zucker averages 25 goals per 82 games if you take his totals from his last 5 seasons. He's only 27, is a great skater and makes a very reasonable 5.5M over the next 4 years, a beautiful contract in a hard cap league, especially since the cap just keeps continuing to rise.

If we had Zucker, you'd probably scoff at the idea of trading him for a Virtanen type player + 3rd round pick

- Nucker101



Niederreiter for Rask
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:41 PM ET
Codes beat you to it like 3 pages ago
- NorthNuck


Sue me
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:42 PM ET
Yes, if you value a speedy physical 3rd line 15 goal scorer more than a top 6 speedy 22-25 goal scorer


I would like to keep Jake as a long term 3rd liner here, but if you can bend over Fenton by trading him + a 3rd for Zucker, I'd do that in a heartbeat.

- Nucker101


Agree with you 100%
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 5 @ 4:43 PM ET
nice

- Nucker101

He wasn’t giddy. I listened to the interview. He was giddy when he spoke about Gunnerson and Lind. He was pretty reserved when saying Tryamkin could still be part of their plans. Trying to maintain trade value and nothing more
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 4:43 PM ET
I imagine there will be one or two trades that happen that will piss off a good portion of the fan base . That said the fan base always think they know what is better for the team.

Me personally I trust this group of managers

I don't trust ownership. In fact on SN650 one of the announcers repeated about 3 or 4 times less than an hour ago that there is pressure to make the playoffs this year on the 50 th anniversary. He said he has a source tell him that there is a lot of pressure from ownership.

- VANTEL


If there’s pressure for the playoffs, then I don’t blame JB for being aggressive and it’s nice to hear that he’s trying to (hopefully) buy low on Zucker instead of overpaying for a tier 2 UFA. Just wish we were hearing Colin Miller rumours instead of Zaitsev

We’ll see though.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:43 PM ET
Do you think Virtanens ceiling is better than Zucker ?
- Redmile247



Zucker has reached his ceiling...won't be any better than what he is now. I dont think Jake puts up 60pts but I think he has 25g 40pts in him.

Perhaps the 3rd isn't enough but I, personally, think JV gives you what Zucker gave Minny last year....

Man, I dont (frank)in know', just spitballin....
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yup - virtanen plus a 3rd is a laughable offer
- CanuckDon


Your face is laughable..........BOOM!
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
If there’s pressure for the playoffs, then I don’t blame JB for being aggressive and it’s nice to hear that he’s trying to (hopefully) buy low on Zucker instead of overpaying for a tier 2 UFA. Just wish we were hearing Colin Miller rumours instead of Zaitsev

We’ll see though.

- Nucker101


Including JV isn't buying low.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 4:45 PM ET
He wasn’t giddy. I listened to the interview. He was giddy when he spoke about Gunnerson and Lind. He was pretty reserved when saying Tryamkin could still be part of their plans. Trying to maintain trade value and nothing more
- CanuckDon



Heard the interview myself, I wouldve said he sounded giddy about Tryamkin too actually....
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