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1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Remember when it came out that Chiapet thought the same thing about Lucic? Draft picks and assets for him? Ya, that.
- NewYorkNuck


Oh I agree, but it feels like they are trying to soften us up for the inevitable Lind and a 2nd for Zeitsev trade.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 1:43 PM ET
Oh I agree, but it feels like they are trying to soften us up for the inevitable Lind and a 2nd for Zeitsev trade.
- 1970vintage

Sportsnet 650: Mike Zeisberger spoke with Vancouver Canucks GM Jim Benning. They’d like to add to their blue line, but he’s not going to trade draft picks or young players for just a quick fix.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:44 PM ET
he got fleeced on Granlund and Nino trades, I imagine with the backlash he faced, he will overvalue all of his players moving forward.
- Codes1087


And according to Elliotte JB's disappointed in the feedback he's received on the value of Canuck players.

It's a chess game JB can i'll afford to fuk up going into the last year of his contract.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Sportsnet 650: Mike Zeisberger spoke with Vancouver Canucks GM Jim Benning. They’d like to add to their blue line, but he’s not going to trade draft picks or young players for just a quick fix.
- NorthNuck


Five years isn’t a quick fix...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
Well Paul Fenton is the worst GM in the league. I don’t know, he is confused?
- CanuckDon

The Donato trade was excellent, the other two not so much. Clearly wants to shake it up. Seems like Parise has got to go at some point, albatross and a half. Not quite as bad as Perry but close.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Jun 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
he got fleeced on Granlund and Nino trades, I imagine with the backlash he faced, he will overvalue all of his players moving forward.
- Codes1087


if the plan is to blow it up then overvaluing them is the worst thing to do. i feel like thats what happened to the canucks post-2012, the wild are in for a few meaningless middling seasons if they decide to hold on waiting for better value
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 5 @ 1:56 PM ET
if the plan is to blow it up then overvaluing them is the worst thing to do. i feel like thats what happened to the canucks post-2012, the wild are in for a few meaningless middling seasons if they decide to hold on waiting for better value
- johnnykarate

It’s also hard to overvalue when Zucker is coming off of a down year
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:01 PM ET
Love it. Great fit with Elias and Brock. Virtanen and a 2020 2nd
- CanuckDon

You're cut off from the bath salts
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:03 PM ET
Of course it will be. Why do they want to trade him if he's so good?
- VanHockeyGuy

Rumour was SAm Bennett and Frolik at the TDL.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:04 PM ET
Well Paul Fenton is the worst GM in the league. I don’t know, he is confused?
- CanuckDon

Nino straight up for Rask.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
And according to Elliotte JB's disappointed in the feedback he's received on the value of Canuck players.

It's a chess game JB can i'll afford to fuk up going into the last year of his contract.

- VanHockeyGuy

Get the deal at your price or tell them you are going with what you got. Team is going to be better than we think again. (frank)'em all.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
Rumour was SAm Bennett and Frolik at the TDL.
- manvanfan


That would make Lefty happy.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
It’s also hard to overvalue when Zucker is coming off of a down year
- neem55

It wasn't a down year for him it was smack on his average. Last year was the outlier if you look at his stats he had the same average TOI and a much higher shooting %
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:08 PM ET
Get the deal at your price or tell them you are going with what you got. Team is going to be better than we think again. (frank)'em all.
- manvanfan


He has to. I'm guessing he has a few irons in the fire right now. It seem's things are heating up.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
He has to. I'm guessing he has a few irons in the fire right now. It seem's things are heating up.
- VanHockeyGuy

I'm guessing you're right. I think I remember a rumour that Chia wanted Gagner + for Spooner and JB was like

GM's talk a lot. Discuss players at lengths for long periods of time. Revisit things.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:59 PM ET
He we go.

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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"

- VanHockeyGuy


Zucker is my boy but this doesn’t sound promising lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 5 @ 3:01 PM ET
Zucker is my boy but this doesn’t sound promising lol
- Nucker101

Benning has said he won’t trade a young core player or drafts picks 15 times this week. What are you worried about ?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 3:12 PM ET
Benning has said he won’t trade a young core player or drafts picks 15 times this week. What are you worried about ?
- CanuckDon


Steph Curry going off tonight
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 3:17 PM ET
Steph Curry going off tonight
- Nucker101

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This is Albin Grewe. He spoke to 23 teams. He was asked what player he likes. “Brad Marchand. I like him.” #NHLCombine



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 3:34 PM ET
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This is Albin Grewe. He spoke to 23 teams. He was asked what player he likes. “Brad Marchand. I like him.” #NHLCombine




- manvanfan


He’ll probably be drafted by a divisional rival and annoy the poop out of the Canucks for years
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:36 PM ET
Rumour was SAm Bennett and Frolik at the TDL.
- manvanfan


It was Frolik and kylington at the deadline
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 3:40 PM ET
From the CanuckWay

"Not sure if Minnesota would be interested in packaging Zucker and the No. 12 pick for Vancouver’s 10th selection, since Fenton would only be moving up two spots. Maybe additional picks could be involved to make a trade happen."

https://thecanuckway.com/...se-if-the-price-is-right/

- VanHockeyGuy


Zucker was the main piece in a deal for Phil Kessel ....he isn’t a sweetener to move a couple spots in the draft ...maybe Zucker for gaudette and a 2nd might work
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:12 PM ET
It was Frolik and kylington at the deadline
- Redmile247

Which is a much better package imo
Calgary has pieces to get it done but not a lot of cap.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Jun 5 @ 4:15 PM ET
It wasn't a down year for him it was smack on his average. Last year was the outlier if you look at his stats he had the same average TOI and a much higher shooting %
- NorthNuck

He had 64 points followed by 42 points. The direction is down, making in a down year from the year before.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 5 @ 4:18 PM ET
Which is a much better package imo
Calgary has pieces to get it done but not a lot of cap.

- neem55


They have a lot of easily movable options to clear cap ...and then there’s James Neal lol

IMO today I would rather keep Bennett over kylington ...but in a few years that could be a poor choice
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