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NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 12:22 PM ET


Hope it’s a “there’s the door” kind of talk.

- NewYorkNuck

NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 12:22 PM ET
per Rick Dhaliwal:

Jim Benning on SN 650.
- Reports that we are far part with Boeser are not true and they are unfounded.
- There sure is a future for Tryamkin, I talked his agent in Buffalo last week.
- Juolevi will see the doctor this week and looks to get the green light to skate next week.

Jim Benning on 650
- We are talking with Schenn's agent, we would like to bring him back.
- We will continue to talk with Edler.
- I will talk with Eriksson maybe this week about his comments about Travis.

- Codes1087

johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Jun 5 @ 12:37 PM ET
Not that I want Zaitsev, but if the sweetener was:

Zaitsev and Kapannen for Tanev (50% retained) and Granlund/Schaller

Toronto gets cap relief and an upgrade on their D, plus a depth forward for penalty kill or a tougher nosed guy for the playoffs. Van takes on the longer contract and money, but gets back a young forward with upside and gets rid of one of their bottom six plethora.

- NewYorkNuck


cant see that working for toronto, kapenens value is much higher than being a sweetener imo. he could easily be traded in a separate deal and a fraction of it could be used to sweeten a smaller zaitsev deal
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 5 @ 12:38 PM ET
Holy poop you Richard mittens piss me off.

"Weaponize the cap", "overhaul the defense", "Benning needs to be active"...


One rumor where he could potentially do all of that and you cum guzzlers have a meltdown.

Frankly, I don't give a (frank) if he trades for Zaitsev. I'm willing to wait and see what said deal looks like before I require an enema.

If somehow, the deal includes Kapanen or Johnsson or Nylander or Liligren then I'll gladly take Zaitsev and be his personal fluffer....

"But we're worried about what JN will give up!" - get a grip walking miscarriages, Toronto can't afford to take back salary, and JB ain't giving up prime prospects or picks so expect it to include a Gadjovich or a Brisebois and maybe one of our poopty depth forwards, say Granlund?

Now, if said deal includes JV, feel free to call me out, call me stupid and generally mock the piss out of me....I'll gladly bend over....

See you at the draft since I'll likely be banned until then after this.......

Peace!

- chompsey

NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 5 @ 12:44 PM ET
cant see that working for toronto, kapenens value is much higher than being a sweetener imo. he could easily be traded in a separate deal and a fraction of it could be used to sweeten a smaller zaitsev deal
- johnnykarate


Unless they’re able to trade Zaitsev and Marleau before July 1, they could find themselves in a situation to have players get offer sheeted. So time isn’t on their side right now.

While Kap could get a good return on his own, Toronto needs to upgrade their D in a big way and Tanev would be a great player for them on the right side. So they lose a good young forward, but upgrade their D and cap situation in the process.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 5 @ 12:53 PM ET

- A_SteamingLombardi



Causes IBS......thanks tho....
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

Jun 5 @ 12:55 PM ET
Unless they’re able to trade Zaitsev and Marleau before July 1, they could find themselves in a situation to have players get offer sheeted. So time isn’t on their side right now.

While Kap could get a good return on his own, Toronto needs to upgrade their D in a big way and Tanev would be a great player for them on the right side. So they lose a good young forward, but upgrade their D and cap situation in the process.

- NewYorkNuck


time isnt on their side in theory. realistically no offersheets will arrive because the os system is broken. only a handful of teams have enough capspace and all 4 of their own first round picks to make the offers

and id like to believe tanev is right for them, but his injuries are taking a massive toll. losing kapenen creates a hole in their top-6/9
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
Old Jim was more interesting
- CanuckDon

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Benning on Edler talks : "We are going to keep talking with Edler's agent. Sometimes the different sides have different things they are trying to accomplish. We have not found common ground yet. We want Alex back and will try and figure it out." #Canucks


JB needs to draw the line and say here's what it is. Locker room doesn't need a guy who's there for himself. Trade his rights.
manvanfan
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Jun 5 @ 12:59 PM ET
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Benning on reports talks with Boeser are far apart : "Those reports are unfounded and not true. I don't know where that came from, we are in constant with his group. Contract talks have gone in the right direction, we want to get him signed." #Canucks
manvanfan
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Jun 5 @ 1:00 PM ET
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Benning on if there is a future for Tryamkin in Vancouver : "There sure is, I met his agent last week. We would love to have him back, look at the size and strength of the Blues blueline. He can be a big part of our group. We will keep talking to his agent." #Canucks

Stop drafting midgets then JB
VanHockeyGuy
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Jun 5 @ 1:12 PM ET
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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"
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Jun 5 @ 1:14 PM ET
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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"

- VanHockeyGuy

Spooner and Leivo for Zucker
neem55
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Jun 5 @ 1:15 PM ET
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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"

- VanHockeyGuy

I do really like Zucker if the value is there. Battler with some real skill.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
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Jun 5 @ 1:16 PM ET
Spooner and Leivo for Zucker
- manvanfan


Sure, as long as long as there's no young players. Leivo has been good, don't know too much about Zucker but his stats look good.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
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Jun 5 @ 1:20 PM ET
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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"

- VanHockeyGuy

Love it. Great fit with Elias and Brock. Virtanen and a 2020 2nd
NorthNuck
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Jun 5 @ 1:31 PM ET
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.@HalfordTSN from a source: "I'm hearing Vancouver is all over Jason Zucker. There are multiple trade offers on the table"

- VanHockeyGuy

50 point guy if he gets to play with EP. Could be a good fit I just hope the price isn't too high
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
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Jun 5 @ 1:33 PM ET
Love it. Great fit with Elias and Brock. Virtanen and a 2020 2nd
- CanuckDon


When I heard they asked for Brock

What JB gives up would certainly create the usual hysteria and meltdown here.

Still think it (a trade) will happen at the draft.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 5 @ 1:34 PM ET
Not that I want Zaitsev, but if the sweetener was:

Zaitsev and Kapannen for Tanev (50% retained) and Granlund/Schaller

Toronto gets cap relief and an upgrade on their D, plus a depth forward for penalty kill or a tougher nosed guy for the playoffs. Van takes on the longer contract and money, but gets back a young forward with upside and gets rid of one of their bottom six plethora.

- NewYorkNuck


Per everyone in the media, Dubas doesn’t believe (nor do the media) that a sweetener is required, quite the opposite, they can get an actual asset for Zeitsey.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
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Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
50 point guy if he gets to play with EP. Could be a good fit I just hope the price isn't too high
- NorthNuck


Of course it will be. Why do they want to trade him if he's so good?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
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Jun 5 @ 1:37 PM ET
50 point guy if he gets to play with EP. Could be a good fit I just hope the price isn't too high
- NorthNuck


Playing with EP should make a good player a 100 point guy. Nick Jensen could score 50 with EP, we need better than that.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
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Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
From the CanuckWay

"Not sure if Minnesota would be interested in packaging Zucker and the No. 12 pick for Vancouver’s 10th selection, since Fenton would only be moving up two spots. Maybe additional picks could be involved to make a trade happen."

https://thecanuckway.com/...se-if-the-price-is-right/
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Per everyone in the media, Dubas doesn’t believe (nor do the media) that a sweetener is required, quite the opposite, they can get an actual asset for Zeitsey.
- 1970vintage


Remember when it came out that Chiapet thought the same thing about Lucic? Draft picks and assets for him? Ya, that.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 5 @ 1:38 PM ET
Of course it will be. Why do they want to trade him if he's so good?
- VanHockeyGuy

Well Paul Fenton is the worst GM in the league. I don’t know, he is confused?
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Jun 5 @ 1:39 PM ET
Of course it will be. Why do they want to trade him if he's so good?
- VanHockeyGuy

They want to turn over to a young core because they've realized their team is a failure?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jun 5 @ 1:40 PM ET
Well Paul Fenton is the worst GM in the league. I don’t know, he is confused?
- CanuckDon


he got fleeced on Granlund and Nino trades, I imagine with the backlash he faced, he will overvalue all of his players moving forward.
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