According to a source, pending UFA Erik Karlsson would like to get offers from Ottawa and Montreal.
The Senators tried to sign Karlsson before they felt forced to trade him to San Jose, so it's unclear how the situation would be any different this time around. Still, there appears to be some hope because his wife, Melinda, would like to live close to her family again. She was born and raised in Ottawa. Karlsson will have plenty of interested suitors and he wants to win, so it would be highly unlikely that a return to Ottawa would be in the cards. Perhaps a team close to Ottawa would be a better fit for him and his wife when they consider their options.


Per Roto World
- SABRES 89

So MTL would seem like the obvious choice

Or if Dubas gets creative,
could the Leafs move salary for EK65 ?

some think I demanded the sabres to trade eichel 20 times already


- homiedclown

I only counted 17.

Did some research on these so please give it a read but from the previous thread of NHL laughing stock rankings....The obvious of Oilers as the NHL laughing stock is there.

Here are a few others that have their names in the fire.

Canucks:
- Luongo contract
- The Messier debacle
- Mats Sundin nightmare
- Trading Schneider
- Trading Luongo
- Bure traded for scraps
- Kesler traded for nothing
- Drafting Hodgson a few picks before Karlsson in '08
- BIG ONE: Trading Neely for nothing.

Senators:
- Trading Ben Bishop for Cory Conachar
- Trading Mike Fischer for nothing
- Letting Chara walk
- Signing Gonchar to massive deal
- Bobby Ryan contract
- Their current ownership
- BIG ONE: Alexander Daigle at 1st overall (2nd was Pronger).

Islanders:
- Dipietro Contract 15 years
- Yashin contract 10x8.4
- Ladd, Cal, Grabovski, contract
- Trading Chara (pick became Spezza) for Yashin
- Moving out of Nassau Colesseum
- Traded away Pierre Turgeon
- Traded Luongo and Jokinen for Kvasha/Parrish
- Traded Palffy away
- Traded Bertuzzi/McCabe for Linden
- Traded Tonelli for nothing
- Traded Nino for Clutterbuck
- Drafting Chyzowski before Lidstrom/Fedorov
- Drafted Brett Lindros 1st overall

MAPLE LEAFS:
- Trading Kessell for picks (Seguin/Hall there)
- Trading away Randy Carlyle before his prime
- Traded Toskala for scraps when they gave their 1st/2nd for him
- Signing Finger, Komisarek, Robidas
- Traded the a pick for Wendel Clark which was Luongo.
- Traded Tuukka Rask to the Bruins
- Traded Scott Thornton
- Traded Lanny McDonald
- Traded Darryl Sittler
- Traded Bernie parent to the Flyers
- Signing Phaneuf to a 7x7.
- Signing Clarkson for 7x5.25

actually my questions was the sabres record with eichel, vs the other super stars record in their first 4 seasons


this has nothing to do with reinhart
- homiedclown

We had no team in 2015 -16 ..we had few good players and drunk goalie with mental issues

We had no team in 2015 -16 ..we had few good players and drunk goalie with mental issues
- Slapjackzack

We still have no team

Did some research on these so please give it a read but from the previous thread of NHL laughing stock rankings....The obvious of Oilers as the NHL laughing stock is there.

Here are a few others that have their names in the fire.

Canucks:
- Luongo contract
- The Messier debacle
- Mats Sundin nightmare
- Trading Schneider
- Trading Luongo
- Bure traded for scraps
- Kesler traded for nothing
- Drafting Hodgson a few picks before Karlsson in '08
- BIG ONE: Trading Neely for nothing.

Senators:
- Trading Ben Bishop for Cory Conachar
- Trading Mike Fischer for nothing
- Letting Chara walk
- Signing Gonchar to massive deal
- Bobby Ryan contract
- Their current ownership
- BIG ONE: Alexander Daigle at 1st overall (2nd was Pronger).

Islanders:
- Dipietro Contract 15 years
- Yashin contract 10x8.4
- Ladd, Cal, Grabovski, contract
- Trading Chara (pick became Spezza) for Yashin
- Moving out of Nassau Colesseum
- Traded away Pierre Turgeon
- Traded Luongo and Jokinen for Kvasha/Parrish
- Traded Palffy away
- Traded Bertuzzi/McCabe for Linden
- Traded Tonelli for nothing
- Traded Nino for Clutterbuck
- Drafting Chyzowski before Lidstrom/Fedorov
- Drafted Brett Lindros 1st overall

MAPLE LEAFS:
- Trading Kessell for picks (Seguin/Hall there)
- Trading away Randy Carlyle before his prime
- Traded Toskala for scraps when they gave their 1st/2nd for him
- Signing Finger, Komisarek, Robidas
- Traded the a pick for Wendel Clark which was Luongo.
- Traded Tuukka Rask to the Bruins
- Traded Scott Thornton
- Traded Lanny McDonald
- Traded Darryl Sittler
- Traded Bernie parent to the Flyers
- Signing Phaneuf to a 7x7.
- Signing Clarkson for 7x5.25
- JVince11

First off, very nice work

People hold Daigle up as the poster boy for busts, but he had somewhat of a career after Ottawa.

Yak is the ultimate bustarino.

Funny that you bring up the Leafs, as I think Sundin on some mediocre Leaf teams has a lot in common with Eichel. Some of the fans there were terrible to him for Euro-bashing reasons, some because those teams weren't that good. Hopefully Eichel has the career Sundin did. Hell of a player who finally got the respect he deserved. The sabres will turn the corner and fans here will give him the respect he deserves

First off, very nice work

People hold Daigle up as the poster boy for busts, but he had somewhat of a career after Ottawa.

Yak is the ultimate bustarino.

Funny that you bring up the Leafs, as I think Sundin on some mediocre Leaf teams has a lot in common with Eichel. The some of the fans there were terrible to him for Euro-bashing reasons, some because those teams weren't that good. Hopefully Eichel has the career Sundin did. Hell of a player who finally got the respect he deserved. The sabres will turn the corner and fans here will give him the respect he deserves
- jcragcrumple

Appreciate it.

I know this can be done for a lot of teams and it can be done for the Sabres in the same regard. We traded all of the french connection and Hasek. We gave dumb contracts to guys like Ehrhoff, Leino, Okposo (yea?), Moulson, Hodgson but they weren't "leading industry" deals for 7-15 years like some of these. We certainly have had our draft busts but most of our busts were in the 8+ range as opposed to most of the ones I listed above are top 5 picks. No team is perfect.

But at least, that I can think of, I can't think of that guy in the last 10-15 years that we traded away who became just an absolute superstar like a Chara, Parent, etc.

We still have no team
- sbroads24

pretty much

if skinner signs we are the flyers for the next 3 years

if skinner walks, we are the panthers

Me likey Borgen. Another year in Rochacha will help his development. Then he is ready for prime time the following year.

pretty much

if skinner signs we are the flyers for the next 3 years

if skinner walks, we are the panthers
- homiedclown

I was prepared to be a little upset by that... but.... that comparison is actually pretty on par.

Flyers... couple really good top heavy forwards, a stud D man or two... always questionable goaltending lets them down.

Panthers... pretty similar... some young stud players but not enough depth around them.. have to overpay to get some extra talent. Maybe a lucky 1 year playoff run.

I was prepared to be a little upset by that... but.... that comparison is actually pretty on par.

Flyers... couple really good top heavy forwards, a stud D man or two... always questionable goaltending lets them down.

Panthers... pretty similar... some young stud players but not enough depth around them.. have to overpay to get some extra talent. Maybe a lucky 1 year playoff run.
- JVince11

bookmarked

Me likey Borgen. Another year in Rochacha will help his development. Then he is ready for prime time the following year.
- SabreWest

I think you will end up seeing him full-time with the Sabres sometime after the turn of the calendar year in 2020.

First off, very nice work

People hold Daigle up as the poster boy for busts, but he had somewhat of a career after Ottawa.

Yak is the ultimate bustarino.

Funny that you bring up the Leafs, as I think Sundin on some mediocre Leaf teams has a lot in common with Eichel. Some of the fans there were terrible to him for Euro-bashing reasons, some because those teams weren't that good. Hopefully Eichel has the career Sundin did. Hell of a player who finally got the respect he deserved. The sabres will turn the corner and fans here will give him the respect he deserves
- jcragcrumple

Brian Lawton.......

Poloncarz on economic impact of new stadium:

"When (other community leaders) talk about an economic impact to the greater community from the construction of a new stadium, all the evidence shows there is almost no positive impact other than keeping the team in the town. If you're talking about other outshoots of economic growth, it almost never occurs. Especially if the facility is owned by the government, because you get no tax revenue from it. Whether it's a new stadium or a retrofit, you're not going to see a brand new revenue string coming in for the community. What you have is a football team that continues to play, which is very important for the overall community."

https://wgr550.radio.com/...t-comes-bills-new-stadium

Appreciate it.

I know this can be done for a lot of teams and it can be done for the Sabres in the same regard. We traded all of the french connection and Hasek. We gave dumb contracts to guys like Ehrhoff, Leino, Okposo (yea?), Moulson, Hodgson but they weren't "leading industry" deals for 7-15 years like some of these. We certainly have had our draft busts but most of our busts were in the 8+ range as opposed to most of the ones I listed above are top 5 picks. No team is perfect.

But at least, that I can think of, I can't think of that guy in the last 10-15 years that we traded away who became just an absolute superstar like a Chara, Parent, etc.
- JVince11

They never traded Perreault.

Just saying.

I think you will end up seeing him full-time with Seattle sometime after the turn of the calendar year in 2020.
- buffalofan19

This could be more accurate

This could be more accurate
- adambuffalo

They're playing this season?

Poloncarz on economic impact of new stadium:

"When (other community leaders) talk about an economic impact to the greater community from the construction of a new stadium, all the evidence shows there is almost no positive impact other than keeping the team in the town. If you're talking about other outshoots of economic growth, it almost never occurs. Especially if the facility is owned by the government, because you get no tax revenue from it. Whether it's a new stadium or a retrofit, you're not going to see a brand new revenue string coming in for the community. What you have is a football team that continues to play, which is very important for the overall community."

https://wgr550.radio.com/...t-comes-bills-new-stadium
- homiedclown

100% true

Brian Lawton.......
- dadeadhead

Greg Joly

They're playing this season?
- buffalofan19

My bad. Misread.

Brian Lawton.......
- dadeadhead

Before my time, but it looks like Lawton played for 9 seasons. I still have Yak as the ultimate buster

At the end of the day....

In 2018, Risto was the 38th highest paid D man in the league but is the 23rd highest PPG D man in the league at 5.4M AAV. I ain't even mad about that in the slightest.



If you look at UFAs added for 2019-2020 with guys like Karlsson, Trouba, Myers, Edler (maybe), Gardiner, getting UFA deals over 5.4M. Then RFAs like Werenski, McAvoy, Deangeo, Sanheim, Butcher could get up near that 5.4M as well.

Risto could be the 45th highest paid AAV but producing like a top 20.

They never traded Perreault.

Just saying.
- Powerslave

Turgeon got 4 seasons and 8 games

Before my time, but it looks like Lawton played for 9 seasons. I still have Yak as the ultimate buster
- jcragcrumple

http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ats/pdisplay.php?pid=2580

Poloncarz on economic impact of new stadium:

"When (other community leaders) talk about an economic impact to the greater community from the construction of a new stadium, all the evidence shows there is almost no positive impact other than keeping the team in the town. If you're talking about other outshoots of economic growth, it almost never occurs. Especially if the facility is owned by the government, because you get no tax revenue from it. Whether it's a new stadium or a retrofit, you're not going to see a brand new revenue string coming in for the community. What you have is a football team that continues to play, which is very important for the overall community."

https://wgr550.radio.com/...t-comes-bills-new-stadium
- homiedclown

While I can sympathize with what Poloncarz is doing here, my fear is that he really can't win with this stance. The league recently left St. Louis, San Diego, and will be leaving Oakland, all much bigger markets, over disputes for new stadiums. I don't think it will come to that here, and I do think that the Pegulas will figure out how to get something done, but there will be more public money being spent to this than Poloncarz will like.