Would be nice to sign Petterson for under $2M but anyone thinking you should trade him over half a mil is nuts.

People don't want to trade Maata with a $4m salary but Petterson is overpaid at $2m? Salary aside, I'd rather have Petts than Maata on the roster. I think he may be the better player at this point.
- MacPatty

Agree

The fact you're even comparing Maatta to Pettersson is just... wow
- Rinosaur

Maata never lived up to his potential. Too many injuries and he is just too poor of a skater.

Pettersson was better than him this year, is younger and will command half of the salary. Not to mention that while he is no Gudbransson, he at least tries to play with some physicality and will stick up for his teammates.

There is zero chance the Pens move on from Petts to keep Maata. ZERO.

Maata never lived up to his potential. Too many injuries and he is just too poor of a skater.

Pettersson was better than him this year, is younger and will command half of the salary. Not to mention that while he is no Gudbransson, he at least tries to play with some physicality and will stick up for his teammates.

There is zero chance the Pens move on from Petts to keep Maata. ZERO.
- MacPatty

Lol wut.

Maatta is one year removed from a 30 point season. Which is top 4 production. He’s a +50 goal differential at even strength in his career and has had one season where his goal differential was negative.

How the (frank) hasn’t he lived up to his potential? He’s a top 4 dman in the NHL.

Lol wut.

Maatta is one year removed from a 30 point season. Which is top 4 production. He’s a +50 goal differential at even strength in his career and has had one season where his goal differential was negative.

How the (frank) hasn’t he lived up to his potential? He’s a top 4 dman in the NHL.
- j.boyd919

him no skate fast, him bad

Maata never lived up to his potential. Too many injuries and he is just too poor of a skater.

Pettersson was better than him this year, is younger and will command half of the salary. Not to mention that while he is no Gudbransson, he at least tries to play with some physicality and will stick up for his teammates.

There is zero chance the Pens move on from Petts to keep Maata. ZERO.
- MacPatty

Maatta has had extremely bad luck. Injuries and a cancer scare. It’s unfortunate how much he’s had to go through, but it’s come to a point now where it looks like Maatta won’t improve any more. You can’t really blame maatta for management throwing a butt load of money at him after 1 decent season right after his ELC. There was really no need to sign him to a 6 year contract for that much when he already had a few serious injuries.

Maata never lived up to his potential. Too many injuries and he is just too poor of a skater.

Pettersson was better than him this year, is younger and will command half of the salary. Not to mention that while he is no Gudbransson, he at least tries to play with some physicality and will stick up for his teammates.

There is zero chance the Pens move on from Petts to keep Maata. ZERO.
- MacPatty

Except for when he blatantly avoided a check behind the net in the playoffs that directly resulted in a goal against. That is the only troubling thing I saw out of him....and it doesn't suit your physicality narrative neither does the fact he was 2nd last in hits per game for the Pens D.

I see a player whos a great skater, good first passer, takes plenty of good shots from point and good on exits and entries but not overly physical, which I'm fine with, but he does need to man up in a situation like what happened vs the Isles this year.

Lol wut.

Maatta is one year removed from a 30 point season. Which is top 4 production. He’s a +50 goal differential at even strength in his career and has had one season where his goal differential was negative.

How the (frank) hasn’t he lived up to his potential? He’s a top 4 dman in the NHL.
- j.boyd919

I think part of that is who he plays with. He was pretty good in 17-18, I'll agree on that. But the other 3 of the past 4 he's been at least -2% relative possession and helped by a strong PDO.

When the guys around him are good, he's fine. When they're not, he gets a little exposed.

Lol wut.

Maatta is one year removed from a 30 point season. Which is top 4 production. He’s a +50 goal differential at even strength in his career and has had one season where his goal differential was negative.

How the (frank) hasn’t he lived up to his potential? He’s a top 4 dman in the NHL.
- j.boyd919

hahaha

....Because Bobby Ryan blew past him in OT and won the game for the Sens in the 2017 Cup run.

So... if Rasmus Dahlin signed an extension TODAY... you would not give him more than 2 mil a year? Because, he would be a 2nd year player...
- Guile

He might not be, but I am.

These damn millennial kids get everything handed to them, none of them want to work. My grandfather worked in a cigar shop for 50 years and never asked for a damn thing he didn't earn. And that man is a war hero, dammit!

Let him live in the slums with his measly $900,000 per year salary, and then after he's spent 6 years in the NHL basement, MAYBE I'd sign him to over $5M.

Maatta has had extremely bad luck. Injuries and a cancer scare. It’s unfortunate how much he’s had to go through, but it’s come to a point now where it looks like Maatta won’t improve any more. You can’t really blame maatta for management throwing a butt load of money at him after 1 decent season right after his ELC. There was really no need to sign him to a 6 year contract for that much when he already had a few serious injuries.
- drummer829

I don't even think it was a bad contract. They were hoping Maatta would improve and they'd get value, but he sort of flat lined. Salary is about right for a guy that plays those minutes and doesn't kill you but doesn't really boost play either.

Still, you can find young players who are less established who can fill that role for a year or two for less until they get paid. And that speed will always be a liability that can be exposed, especially when playing with guys prone to turnovers who create odd man breaks against....

I think part of that is who he plays with. He was pretty good in 17-18, I'll agree on that. But the other 3 of the past 4 he's been at least -2% relative possession and helped by a strong PDO.

When the guys around him are good, he's fine. When they're not, he gets a little exposed.
- Tojo.

I definitely agree with you on it heavily depends on who he plays with. But that doesn’t mean he’s bad though, imo. If he can play in a top 4 role with a solid partner... I’m okay with that. If they’re going to deploy him with guys who aren’t very good... then yeah he’s gonna be exposed. I agree 100%. Kinda like how RW calls him a chameleon. Seems accurate.

I definitely agree with you on it heavily depends on who he plays with. But that doesn’t mean he’s bad though, imo. If he can play in a top 4 role with a solid partner... I’m okay with that. If they’re going to deploy him with guys who aren’t very good... then yeah he’s gonna be exposed. I agree 100%. Kinda like how RW calls him a chameleon. Seems accurate.
- j.boyd919

Maatta is the Flyers. He plays up or down to his partner's abilities.

Why do you always argue with your alt?
- jmatchett383

Vic something is my alt...

I definitely agree with you on it heavily depends on who he plays with. But that doesn’t mean he’s bad though, imo. If he can play in a top 4 role with a solid partner... I’m okay with that. If they’re going to deploy him with guys who aren’t very good... then yeah he’s gonna be exposed. I agree 100%. Kinda like how RW calls him a chameleon. Seems accurate.
- j.boyd919

Ok, I agree with that.

Lol wut.

Maatta is one year removed from a 30 point season. Which is top 4 production. He’s a +50 goal differential at even strength in his career and has had one season where his goal differential was negative.

How the (frank) hasn’t he lived up to his potential? He’s a top 4 dman in the NHL.
- j.boyd919

Because when he was 18 he looked like he was going to be a top pair partner for Letang for a decade. Now he has peaked out at a solid top 4 and is going to regress quickly.

I have always liked Maata and every year I wait for him to take this leap in his skating but it never happens.

Because when he was 18 he looked like he was going to be a top pair partner for Letang for a decade. Now he has peaked out at a solid top 4 and is going to regress quickly.

I have always liked Maata and every year I wait for him to take this leap in his skating but it never happens.
- MacPatty

He's 24.

He's 24.
- MattStrat

Yes, and he has missed the equivalent of 1.5 seasons due to injury already. Not to mention he took a big step back in his play this year.

Yes, and he has missed the equivalent of 1.5 seasons due to injury already. Not to mention he took a big step back in his play this year.
- MacPatty

A chunk of that time is due to cancer.

Dumoulin didnt come into his own until 24/25.

Big step back this year?...who were his common line mates compared to other years?

A chunk of that time is due to cancer.

Dumoulin didnt come into his own until 24/25.

Big step back this year?...who were his common line mates compared to other years?
- MattStrat

Rikkolla, Oleksiak, and JJ were his top 3 partners in TOI. Then Letang.

Because when he was 18 he looked like he was going to be a top pair partner for Letang for a decade. Now he has peaked out at a solid top 4 and is going to regress quickly.

I have always liked Maata and every year I wait for him to take this leap in his skating but it never happens.
- MacPatty

Maatta still plays very well with Letang and could have been his partner for a decade. I don't really see THAT much drop off from Dumo to Maatta, aside from speed. If Dumo hadn't come around, it probably would be Maatta with Letang currently.

I don't think you're going to see much improvement in his skating, it is what it is.

Rikkolla, Oleksiak, and JJ were his top 3 partners in TOI. Then Letang.
- j.boyd919

Thats not very stellar.

There were a number of us around here that wanted a top 4 of:

Maatta-Letang
Dumo-Schultz

Didnt see much of any of that but in saying that, Schultz missed over 4 months and then we he returned Tanger, Dumo and Maatta started missing time.

Maatta bought out?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Pittsburgh-Penguins

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Maatta bought out?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Pittsburgh-Penguins

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- Little Katarina

Nah. Use Capfriendly.com hockeybuzz's cap poop sucks balls.

Maatta bought out?

https://www.hockeybuzz.co.../team/Pittsburgh-Penguins

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- Little Katarina

I saw your original comment that you deleted claiming that he was officially bought out and I scrambled to google search haha. I dont think this is accurate.