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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 31 @ 4:51 PM ET
Bob McKenzie said 8.5-9.5 as well
It’s not like Homie & 89 are out on a limb here

- jdfitz77


Most Sabres fans have pretty much guessed those amounts.

I'm just saying jbotts suprises most everyone and gets it done for less then expected. (Not 9 million anyways)

Jbotts is gonna be sneaky with cap bonuses ect.

Similiar to the ror deal, except hopefully part of the deal isnt to play skinners brother for 20 games in the nhl.


The sabres organization is backed into a corner and they need to sign skinner or face enormous backlash.

8 for 70 max
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 31 @ 4:56 PM ET
Most Sabres fans have pretty much guessed those amounts.

I'm just saying jbotts suprises most everyone and gets it done for less then expected. (Not 9 million anyways)

Jbotts is gonna be sneaky with cap bonuses ect.

Similiar to the ror deal, except hopefully part of the deal isnt to play skinners brother for 20 games in the nhl.


The sabres organization is backed into a corner and they need to sign skinner or face enormous backlash.

8 for 70 max

- Boss34


Regardless of who of us has or hasn’t said it...
You haven’t given a reason to doubt McKenzie’s report
He’s usually bang on
It would be a pleasant surprise if it’s an 8mil Cap hit
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 5:02 PM ET
Regardless of who of us has or hasn’t said it...
You haven’t given a reason to doubt McKenzie’s report
He’s usually bang on
It would be a pleasant surprise if it’s an 8mil Cap hit

- jdfitz77


Who said $8m though?
McKenzie said between $8.5m and $9.5m, and it was his feeling on it...not a quote from those sources.

It may be splitting hairs, but if he came in at $8.75m x 8 you get $70m. That $8.75 is right in line with McKenzie's thoughts...so why do you say he us ignoring what has been reported, by 1 man? The others are leeching onto him.
Unless they changed math, and the order of numbers in a Base 10 system, then Boss is spot on.
TBH, I too have been thinking the same as Bossman.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 5:08 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA?
Who is your pick at 30/31?
Who is your #1 FA target?
Who is your surprise acquisition?

Backup your thoughts as best you can.

GO...Wtf?
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 31 @ 5:12 PM ET
Most Sabres fans have pretty much guessed those amounts.

I'm just saying jbotts suprises most everyone and gets it done for less then expected. (Not 9 million anyways)

Jbotts is gonna be sneaky with cap bonuses ect.

Similiar to the ror deal, except hopefully part of the deal isnt to play skinners brother for 20 games in the nhl.


The sabres organization is backed into a corner and they need to sign skinner or face enormous backlash.

8 for 70 max

- Boss34


There are no performance bonuses allowed for players not on ELC deals or signing 35+ contracts.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 31 @ 5:21 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA?
Who is your pick at 30/31?
Who is your #1 FA target?
Who is your surprise acquisition?

Backup your thoughts as best you can.

GO...Wtf?

- IonSabres


7OA- Boldy or Krebs
30/31- Beecher or Honka
#1 FA Target: Nyquist
Surprise Acquisition: Zucker
nikel
Buffalo Sabres
Location: las vegas, NV
Joined: 01.15.2013

May 31 @ 5:24 PM ET
Anywhere north of 5M$ is overpaying. How can you pay him more than Pastrnak, Marchand or Bergeron who all makes less than 7M$.

So you're advocating for a team of 3rd and 4th liners only?...cause that's what you're going to get if you think a consistent 30+ goal scorer isn't worth north of $5M
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 31 @ 5:30 PM ET
Anywhere north of 5M$ is overpaying. How can you pay him more than Pastrnak, Marchand or Bergeron who all makes less than 7M$.

So you're advocating for a team of 3rd and 4th liners only?...cause that's what you're going to get if you think a consistent 30+ goal scorer isn't worth north of $5M

- nikel


Realistically he’s worth $8M tops.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 31 @ 5:31 PM ET
Who is this blog really about?
Gr8daygo
Joined: 04.23.2014

May 31 @ 5:31 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA?
Who is your pick at 30/31?
Who is your #1 FA target?
Who is your surprise acquisition?

Backup your thoughts as best you can.

GO...Wtf?

- IonSabres


Who is your pick at 7 OA? - Whoever falls that Gerbe likes. Kid seems to know prospects...

Who is your pick at 30/31? - traded in a package for Dahlin’s partner.

Who is your #1 FA target? - Eberle. Played for Ralph...

Who is your surprise acquisition? - Yakapov on a prove it deal.

Honorable mention- Samson gets his long term deal this summer.

I think you’ll see a lot more turn over than just that. I think a lot of dead weight will be turned over.

I have a feeling Steve Smith will give the 411 on a few players to Ralph and those stiffs will be out. The sheer lack of interest after the win streak was disturbing...

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 5:37 PM ET
Who is this blog really about?
- jochfr

clown bashing
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
Realistically he’s worth $8M tops.
- Pegullaville

That is correct but.................
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 31 @ 5:38 PM ET
That is correct but.................
- SABRES 89


Yes, yes I know. Skinner has his arm shoved so far up Botts’ arse he could work his mouth like a puppet. I get it.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 31 @ 5:42 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA? The 7th player chosen
Who is your pick at 30/31? Trade it
Who is your #1 FA target? Skinner
Who is your surprise acquisition? Malkin

Backup your thoughts as best you can. You're not my doppleganger.

GO...Wtf?

- IonSabres
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 31 @ 5:43 PM ET
clown bashing
- homiedclown

Harsh, but fair.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 31 @ 5:45 PM ET
Yes, yes I know. Skinner has his arm shoved so far up Botts’ arse he could work his mouth like a puppet. I get it.
- Pegullaville

Not Skinner his agent, Botterill had a window to work with before, after Stone signed, not happening. IMO he's worth 7 but every year it changes and we need to change with it. I get it , you don't like him.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 31 @ 5:45 PM ET
does anyone have any reason to believe the e3 on Anders Lee?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 31 @ 5:45 PM ET
does anyone have any reason to believe the e3 on Anders Lee?
- thatsapickle

did you stop reading at EK ?
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 31 @ 5:46 PM ET
Not Skinner his agent, Botterill had a window to work with before, after Stone signed, not happening. IMO he's worth 7 but every year it changes and we need to change with it.
- SABRES 89


It's unfortunately the cost of doing business. If Botts can keep it under $9M, more power to him. I just don't see it happening and I don't want to roll the dice that someone won't offer him more.

Even if the Sabres said, see what the best offer is and bring it to us to beat/match, they would be playing with fire.
thatsapickle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 03.08.2012

May 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
did you stop reading at EK ?
- SABRES 89


I should have, but I've been gone a while and it piqued my interest.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 31 @ 5:47 PM ET
Not Skinner his agent, Botterill had a window to work with before, after Stone signed, not happening. IMO he's worth 7 but every year it changes and we need to change with it. I get it , you don't like him.
- SABRES 89


I like Skinner, just don’t agree with his value. I don’t see any reason to not like a guy who scores 40 goals.

I just wish for $9M a year he’d also be a dominate possession player who could rack up assists as well. His career average is 56 points a season.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
does anyone have any reason to believe the e3 on Anders Lee?
- thatsapickle

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
It's unfortunately the cost of doing business. If Botts can keep it under $9M, more power to him. I just don't see it happening and I don't want to roll the dice that someone won't offer him more.

Even if the Sabres said, see what the best offer is and bring it to us to beat/match, they would be playing with fire.

- thatsapickle

doesn't look good to watch him walk over 500K or a million, yes easy to say but times change every year and it will be hard to replace Skinner. Panarin won't sign here.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 31 @ 5:48 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA?
Who is your pick at 30/31?
Who is your #1 FA target?
Who is your surprise acquisition?

Backup your thoughts as best you can.

GO...Wtf?

- IonSabres


JC!
Ok, I'll go...

-7OA - Caufield, if still there, Boldy if not. Scoring on the wing.

-31st - Samuel Poulin, RW, Sherbrooke-QMJHL...tough on the puck, competitor, great 3rd liner

-FA target- tough call here, really tough. Position of beed immediately is 2C, but with CM's development need to find an affordable guy who can move down and/or to the wing. RNH seems appropriate as a trade...I think I go with Colin Miller to steady the D down though...having solid RhD's is a great thing. COLIN MILLER it is.

- Surprise acquisition - maybe hopeful more than surprise...C- Cirelli from Tampa in a trade
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

May 31 @ 5:49 PM ET
Forgetting ROR, and Skinner for a moment, let's move onto other interesting subjects...

I hope you all took the advice to WAKE-UP and EDJUMOCATE yourselves since yesterday's visit from Mr. Knowledgeable!

Who is your pick at 7 OA?
Who is your pick at 30/31?
Who is your #1 FA target?
Who is your surprise acquisition?

Backup your thoughts as best you can.

GO...Wtf?

- IonSabres


7 OA Boldy or Turcotte
30/31 trade the pick
Nyquist
Trouba
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