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Forums :: Blog World :: Michael Pachla: Impressions of, and questions concerning--LW, C.J. Smith
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 29 @ 1:46 PM ET
That's a good question. Elite Prospects has him going back to the Finnish Liiga, but who knows? It'd be interesting if he got a camp invite so we could see him play up close.
- PrinceChill


There hasn't been a lot of noise about him leaving the Liiga. His contract expires after 19-20, and right now it's believed he will be playing his final year there.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

May 29 @ 1:48 PM ET
There hasn't been a lot of noise about him leaving the Liiga. His contract expires after 19-20, and right now it's believed he will be playing his final year there.
- TheSabresTaco

Probably for the best. He's still a bit light.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 29 @ 2:06 PM ET
Objection!
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 29 @ 2:09 PM ET
Probably for the best. He's still a bit light.
- PrinceChill


He's skinny, needs to add muscle to his frame.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 29 @ 2:12 PM ET
Trade for Wild Bill.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 29 @ 2:22 PM ET
Trade for Wild Bill.
- TheSabresTaco



This.

jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 29 @ 2:28 PM ET
Objection!
- jochfr


Overruled.

And for the last time, sir, this is the DMV
Sabres1523
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 12.27.2016

May 29 @ 2:36 PM ET
Trade for Wild Bill.
- TheSabresTaco


What do you think we have to give up to get him? Our late first, nylander and a decent roster player?
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 29 @ 2:50 PM ET
What do you think we have to give up to get him? Our late first, nylander and a decent roster player?
- Sabres1523


More, not getting him for our spare change. Would cost at least 1 player we really don't want to lose.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 29 @ 2:57 PM ET
More, not getting him for our spare change. Would cost at least 1 player we really don't want to lose.
- Lunaion



*using reverse psychology

I REALLY don't want to lose Scandella
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:00 PM ET
More, not getting him for our spare change. Would cost at least 1 player we really don't want to lose.
- Lunaion



Problem is they can't afford to take on a ton of salary

So the pick and a prospect will be the higher value pieces, unless you're taking a cap dump back with him and then the value changes all around
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 29 @ 3:06 PM ET
Problem is they can't afford to take on a ton of salary

So the pick and a prospect will be the higher value pieces, unless you're taking a cap dump back with him and then the value changes all around

- Stripes77


Right, it all feels unlikely. Our prospects aren't very strong. If it happens, expect Asplund, Samuelson, UPL or someone like Olofsson/Pilut to be included. Pick two guys you really don't want to lose and start from there, not 3 pieces you don't mind losing.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 29 @ 3:09 PM ET
Right, it all feels unlikely. Our prospects aren't very strong. If it happens, expect Asplund, Samuelson, UPL or someone like Olofsson/Pilut to be included. Pick two guys you really don't want to lose and start from there, not 3 pieces you don't mind losing.
- Lunaion



UPL better not be going anywhere.

This sounds like ROR all over again.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
UPL better not be going anywhere.

This sounds like ROR all over again.

- Powerslave


What does this have to do with RoR?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
Problem is they can't afford to take on a ton of salary

So the pick and a prospect will be the higher value pieces, unless you're taking a cap dump back with him and then the value changes all around

- Stripes77


They don't have a ton of cap dump players. I guess you could offer to take Clarkson off their hands if that helps them during the summer
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

May 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
Fair enough, Skinner gone too then?
- Lunaion


No, I see Skinner and Olo as the top 2 LW's
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
Trade for Wild Bill.
- TheSabresTaco



They say Mitts and McCabe. How do you respond?
SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

May 29 @ 3:12 PM ET
Slow in catching up...

Olofsson - 1/2LW
Skinner -1/2LW
Sheary - 3LW for 1 year
ERod - 4C
Nylander - added to trade package as a minor sweetener
Wilson/Girgs - 13th F
Wilson/Girgs - left to walk away
Smith - 3LW in 2020-21

- IonSabres


I agree with this post. It's basically what i said earlier. Glad to see that you don't have Sobotka anywhere near the team as well.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
No, I see Skinner and Olo as the top 2 LW's
- SabreWest


OK, Sheary's gone then.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
Right, it all feels unlikely. Our prospects aren't very strong. If it happens, expect Asplund, Samuelson, UPL or someone like Olofsson/Pilut to be included. Pick two guys you really don't want to lose and start from there, not 3 pieces you don't mind losing.
- Lunaion



Vegas has to move salary and that's before signing Wild Bill...

So take someone back and I think there is a deal to be made
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
Vegas has to move salary and that's before signing Wild Bill...

So take someone back and I think there is a deal to be made

- Stripes77


The additional wrinkle is that Wild Bill really only makes sense if you can retain him at or near his current cap level.

Anything significantly higher is just another bad contract. They eventually add up

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
Vegas has to move salary and that's before signing Wild Bill...

So take someone back and I think there is a deal to be made

- Stripes77


They do. Keep hearing Colin Miller+ going and Karlsson staying. I don't see Karlsson going. Plenty of interesting possibilities there.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
They do. Keep hearing Colin Miller+ going and Karlsson staying. I don't see Karlsson going. Plenty of interesting possibilities there.
- Lunaion



I looked at their cap, with the Stone extension they really need to move way more than Miller's $3 million to keep Karlsson
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

May 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
The additional wrinkle is that Wild Bill really only makes sense if you can retain him at or near his current cap level.

Anything significantly higher is just another bad contract. They eventually add up

- Sabresfan-365



I think 6 years at $6-$6.5 per works
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
What do you think we have to give up to get him? Our late first, nylander and a decent roster player?
- Sabres1523


They don't want salary in return. I'd say Borgen and Nylander get you close.
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