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RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

May 26 @ 6:36 PM ET
I find it strange that lots of Oilers fans out there want to trade him....my personal favourite reason for a Nurse trade is to “just get rid of him before he gets paid the big bucks”
- RatedR80

A totally retannered argument.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

May 26 @ 6:40 PM ET
Could I offer you a slightly used, but still pretty William Nylander?
- stonehead


Some in here would jump allover that....it would be viewed as a risk but if he gets back to 60 point Nylander then that takes care of one of our needs
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

May 26 @ 6:41 PM ET
A totally retannered argument.
- RafiDRW


This is what 13 years of losing gets us
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

May 26 @ 6:50 PM ET
This is what 13 years of losing gets us
- RatedR80

You get Holland. All better.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

May 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
You get Holland. All better.
- RafiDRW


Didn’t you know? Holland is OBC (never played a single game with the Oilers) as is Tippett (also never played a game for the Oilers) 13 more years of failure since its OBC
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
You're correct on starts 65% to 35 Ozone ... However his CF% and Fenwick are both real good. Now I'm not sure if that's a reflection of the line he's out with and against or more Gallant's system. Him being relatively young and all thought he might make a good match with Nurse.
- dozerD10

I'm not at home right now, but his team relative numbers are seriously unimpressive for a sheltered guy and his HD chance conversion rates (HDGF/HDCF vs HDGA/HDCA) are among the league's worst.
RafiDRW
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Bill Cosby’s Magic Wiener #FireBlashill, TN
Joined: 04.16.2016

May 26 @ 7:24 PM ET
Didn’t you know? Holland is OBC (never played a single game with the Oilers) as is Tippett (also never played a game for the Oilers) 13 more years of failure since its OBC
- RatedR80

But Holland played for the Wings and Tippett played for a bunch of Eastern teams. Has to mean something Oilers.
RatedR80
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 10.17.2013

May 26 @ 7:34 PM ET
But Holland played for the Wings and Tippett played for a bunch of Eastern teams. Has to mean something Oilers.
- RafiDRW


Facts don’t matter in this case....it’s just spin the narrative to suit ones own needs
uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

May 26 @ 8:31 PM ET
Remember when the Oilers had a rookie GM named MacT who hired a young rookie coach named Dallas Eakins. No recycled dinosaurs. Tanner would be proud. Eakins was an original thinker and was a real millennial. He was into fitness and recycling and gluten-free diets. He even took away all the popcorn and donuts for the media and replaced them with gluten-free granola snacks. What an innovator! He implemented a new system called "the swarm" which made zero sense, but hey, at least he was original. Now the Oilers just have some recycled old rejects.
pgyfto
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.25.2019

May 26 @ 8:43 PM ET
Please no more Tanner or as I call him Assner comments....the guys a total tool just like the team he writes for....How many Yotes were on the Canadian Silver medal winning team this afternoon....this is the guy who thinks hand passes should be legal??? I'm sure he'll tell us next that he's come up with ultimate money puck formula...Man what a winner.
Lemmewinks
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.05.2015

May 26 @ 9:22 PM ET
Ah James "Skip" Tanner the Skip Bayless of Hockeybuzz back at it again.
gramps
Location: Chandler, AZ
Joined: 10.10.2006

May 26 @ 10:59 PM ET
Ah James "Skip" Tanner the Skip Bayless of Hockeybuzz back at it again.
- Lemmewinks


I doubt Tanner has a brother who's a world class chef.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 4:34 AM ET
Too lazy to look up the stats, but Nurse was often the d-man watching McDrai win games in OT. So that does inflate some stats. Including plus/minus which is super important to dinosaurs like Holland.
- uofcguy

Oscar Klefbom says "Hi, I was the 1st dman put out in overtime."
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 27 @ 4:38 AM ET
Fighting tannerisms is like trying to teach JB commonsense, dont even bother.

The guy gets paid for hits, stop reading his blogs and responding to them. Everytime one of us do he gets more money and respect from ek to continue his reactionary blogs. If no one read them or responds he will be weeded out. Much like Garf has been lately. People gave up on him and poof gone. Next up the Pens blogger.
uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

May 27 @ 7:35 AM ET
Oscar Klefbom says "Hi, I was the 1st dman put out in overtime."
- wreckage


Hi Oscar. Look at me playing 82 games. How's your rehab going this time?

Sorry. Nurse was a regular 3-on-3 partner with McDrai. Even when Klefbom returned.
JLO961
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Location: MTL, QC
Joined: 01.16.2013

May 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
Nothing reflects good on this site. Hasn’t for five years.
- RafiDRW


Nah, I think there are some decent writers with good info and that's why I come here. I am pretty happy with the Oilers' blogger. He could stand to be a little more positive, but who can blame an Oilers' fan for being overly pessimistic? haha
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 27 @ 10:25 AM ET
Hi Oscar. Look at me playing 82 games. How's your rehab going this time?

Sorry. Nurse was a regular 3-on-3 partner with McDrai. Even when Klefbom returned.

- uofcguy

By my memory, he wasn't THE regular 3-on-3 partner; that was Klefbom. Unfortunately, finding any time on ice w/ and w/o stats at 3-on-3 scoring is rather difficult. However, I do have evidence that counters your assertion that his stats were being padded by being a regular fixture with McDavid and Draisaitl in OT.

Nurse tallied a total of 2 points in 3-on-3 OT; one on a Nugent-Hopkins goals early in the year against Winnipeg and the other on a McDavid goal against the Rangers in March. Meanwhile, Klefbom was on-ice for 2 points in OT as well; a goal against Dallas in November and an assist against Arizona in March. Further, the team had an OT record of 8-6 which means there was a maximum of 6 goals he could've been on the ice for and a maximum of 6 he could've been on the ice against. Do you really think he got the lion's share of those pluses but not of the minuses?

Hardly "inflating stats".
uofcguy
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.18.2019

May 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
By my memory, he wasn't THE regular 3-on-3 partner; that was Klefbom. Unfortunately, finding any time on ice w/ and w/o stats at 3-on-3 scoring is rather difficult. However, I do have evidence that counters your assertion that his stats were being padded by being a regular fixture with McDavid and Draisaitl in OT.

Nurse tallied a total of 2 points in 3-on-3 OT; one on a Nugent-Hopkins goals early in the year against Winnipeg and the other on a McDavid goal against the Rangers in March. Meanwhile, Klefbom was on-ice for 2 points in OT as well; a goal against Dallas in November and an assist against Arizona in March. Further, the team had an OT record of 8-6 which means there was a maximum of 6 goals he could've been on the ice for and a maximum of 6 he could've been on the ice against. Do you really think he got the lion's share of those pluses but not of the minuses?

Hardly "inflating stats".

- MaximumBone


Nurse also scored in OT against Winnipeg in October. I remember because I was at the game. So as you said, hard to get stats on this.

I never said Nurse getting OT minutes with McDavid and Draisitl radically changed his stats. Just saying they were inflated to some extent by this. Early in the year Klefbom was getting those minutes. But he missed almost 2 months with injury. Nurse got those minutes during his absence. After Klefbom returned, Nurse continued to get some OT time with McDrai since Klefbom's thumb still wasn't 100%.
MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

May 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Nurse also scored in OT against Winnipeg in October. I remember because I was at the game. So as you said, hard to get stats on this.

I never said Nurse getting OT minutes with McDavid and Draisitl radically changed his stats. Just saying they were inflated to some extent by this. Early in the year Klefbom was getting those minutes. But he missed almost 2 months with injury. Nurse got those minutes during his absence. After Klefbom returned, Nurse continued to get some OT time with McDrai since Klefbom's thumb still wasn't 100%.

- uofcguy

Yeah, I included that game, but mistakenly stated it was a point of Nuge's goal; it was his goal that Nuge assisted. That just means one of his two OT points didn't come with McDavid-Draisaitl on the ice. During Klefbom's injury, the Oilers went to OT three times and they were all losses. Even if he was the fixture during that time (which he was), he certainly didn't benefit from being on the ice for that.

Assuming that unlikely possibility that all the goals scored against were when Nurse wasn't on the ice, the most he can possibly have benefited from that was his 1G and 1A and a +6. He obviously didn't get the full +6 and was much more likely to have been closer to +1 or 0 so my point remains: is 1G, 1A and around +1 really that much of a stat padding worthy of singling out?
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

May 27 @ 11:35 AM ET
Any stories on resigning Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle yet? A buddy of mine wanted to know
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