The problem isn't specifically with who they chose, it's that they have failed by constantly turning to recycled failures, and they did it again.

Like, if you think about it, does it make any sense to limit your search to only people who have previously failed in their roles in the NHL?

20 years ago, someone had to give both Holland and Tippett a chance to be rookies in the NHL. The game has changed and is changing - doesn't it make sense to look beyond people who had good ideas 20 years ago?

I just think there are 100s of candidates the Oilers didn't even consider, and they went the safe and easy route, because 99% of fans are just casual fans who will easily buy into the name brand choices.

Since your odds of failing are high to begin with, it just seems to me to be a far more intelligent move to look at people who might change how the game is played with their ideas rather than guys who are stuck in the past.

Tippett is an egregiously stupid hire because he is the typical dump and chase defense first 90s coach that will get killed in today's NHL.
- James_Tanner

I really feel that if they were to bring in a young gm that he would probably be way in over his head trying to fix this team. I think holland is a good choice based on his experience in the league. The teams he put together in detroit were good for most of his time with them. Tippett had some pretty brutal teams he coached in arizona so playing the dump and chase style was what he had to do, he hasnt had a mcdavid or driasitle to be able to carry the pucks into the offensive end. I want to see how he does when the season begins to judge how he does here but i am fine with the hires so far. I just dont buy that the game has passed them by yet.

"For years they failed by giving their jobs to experienced guys"

Besides Chia the Oilers have handed out their jobs to completely inexperienced guys for the past 20 years.... you very clearly have no idea what you are talking about....

I really feel that if they were to bring in a young gm that he would probably be way in over his head trying to fix this team. I think holland is a good choice based on his experience in the league. The teams he put together in detroit were good for most of his time with them. Tippett had some pretty brutal teams he coached in arizona so playing the dump and chase style was what he had to do, he hasnt had a mcdavid or driasitle to be able to carry the pucks into the offensive end. I want to see how he does when the season begins to judge how he does here but i am fine with the hires so far. I just dont buy that the game has passed them by yet.
- oil_country1404

Pretty sure you gave every Oiler fan an aneurism.

Tippett should bring a winning culture that the Oilers desperately need. Get ready for his dump and chase philosophy that made the Coyotes feared in his 8 years there. This is the exact style of game that McD and Draisaitl love to play.

Cheap as in shiny and nice and poorly made. Cheap as in they went with the name brands and surface level analysis and didn't dig deeper to find substance.

But yeah, probably not the best word choice on my part.
- James_Tanner

I see what you mean. Cheers

You guys shouldn't be so reflexive. I disagree with Tanner most of the time as well. But he's dead on correct here. Look at what Montgomery did with a pretty flawed Dallas roster. Or the relative success Quinn had in NY. There are probably 5 NCAA coaches with solid experience and energy for the job who would have been solid choices. They're going to waste several more years of the most talented guy of his generation. Fine with me since they're in the same conference as my team.

BTW, Tippett is under 60.

James Tanner: Cheap, Lazy and Safe: the Oilers Have Made Another Terrible Mistake
- James_Tanner

Whats wrong Tanner? You didn't make the short list for coach?

I love reading this garbage it makes me laugh how people that couldn’t make it anywhere in hockey IRL think they can manage a team and make trades like they do on EA
Or have write ups like this Shiite explaining how awful the new GM and apparent coach are ..give them a chance see what happens without looking in your magic 8 ball ..it seems you’ve been doing a couple 8 balls lol your wires are getting crossed
Consider this when talking about the coach,he was coach of the coyotes the COYOTES ffs when your best forward is Whitney you’re in trouble..probably gonna teach the team how to play defence lol..if I’m not mistaken he took them to the finals pretty dam impressive ...the oil have forever been leaking goals they need a structured game plan and hopefully the new coach gets them playing solid team d . However by no means do I think he’s gonna shackle Connor and Dr Drai and everyone that thinks that is daft AF just like this Tanner who is probably Craig button IRL lol because you donkeys both sound the same

This blog reads like a jim rome fanfic.

I love reading this garbage it makes me laugh how people that couldn’t make it anywhere in hockey IRL think they can manage a team and make trades like they do on EA
Or have write ups like this Shiite explaining how awful the new GM and apparent coach are ..give them a chance see what happens without looking in your magic 8 ball ..it seems you’ve been doing a couple 8 balls lol your wires are getting crossed
Consider this when talking about the coach,he was coach of the coyotes the COYOTES ffs when your best forward is Whitney you’re in trouble..probably gonna teach the team how to play defence lol..if I’m not mistaken he took them to the finals pretty dam impressive ...the oil have forever been leaking goals they need a structured game plan and hopefully the new coach gets them playing solid team d . However by no means do I think he’s gonna shackle Connor and Dr Drai and everyone that thinks that is daft AF just like this Tanner who is probably Craig button IRL lol because you donkeys both sound the same
- GoFunkYourself

he must be Button

They should have hired a clown like Dubas. Imagine putting a team in cap hell and still not being able to be the bruins.
Enjoy watching Marchand raise the cup.

Yep, that sounds pretty accurate!

This article got me thinking: I don’t think there has been a worse Stanley Cup Final in the post-67 era than the two snoozers that Tippet’s Dallas Stars played in ‘99 and ‘00. Anyone disagree?
- Za Warudo

Ducks-Devils in 2003 was a snorefest. Hitchcock coached those Stars teams in 99 and 2000.

So basically Tanner's point is NHL teams are stupid for recycling the same people over and over.

Like after Trotz was a FAILURE in Nashville, it was really stupid for the Caps to "recycle" him and win a Cup. Should have just found a millennial coach from the NCAA instead.

Blues hired Armstrong who failed in his previous GM life. Also hired Berube as coach who had already failed in Philly.

Boston seems pretty happy with Bruce Cassidy who was previously fired in Washington. Stupid recycling.

Also love how the Oilers should have found their own Shanahan. Hmm, what did Shanny do? Hired Lou. That was smart. But then when NYI added Lou, well, just another example of stupid NHL teams recycling.

So basically Tanner's point is NHL teams are stupid for recycling the same people over and over.

Like after Trotz was a FAILURE in Nashville, it was really stupid for the Caps to "recycle" him and win a Cup. Should have just found a millennial coach from the NCAA instead.

Blues hired Armstrong who failed in his previous GM life. Also hired Berube as coach who had already failed in Philly.

Boston seems pretty happy with Bruce Cassidy who was previously fired in Washington. Stupid recycling.

Also love how the Oilers should have found their own Shanahan. Hmm, what did Shanny do? Hired Lou. That was smart. But then when NYI added Lou, well, just another example of stupid NHL teams recycling.
- uofcguy

All those old hats winning was good luck, but all the new hats losing are bad luck. That must be it.

Prevailing attitude that if reality doesn't match stat projections (or models), then it's luck (or highly unusual, or demands further examination/needs more funding) because that they -- the smartest generation ever drowning themselves in ad hoc logic -- might make analytical errors is IMPOSSIBLE!

Holland so far has done smart moves and has thoroughly researched what needs to be done. Yes he made mistakes with the Red Wings recently and he even owned to some of them. Chiarelli was different, he always defended his moves and instantly made mistakes without thinking twice. Hopefully Holland continues to work smart, the Oilers fans need it. Otherwise it will be a longer 4 years.

That song is amazing I have to wonder what you like? Maroon 5? Motorhead?
- James_Tanner

Here you go w/ the "amazing" and "best of all time" stuff.

The song sounds like David Bowie is back from the dead..no?

Holland's work so far...

-Hitchcock canned
-MacT to Siberia
-Sutter canned
-signed Nygard, free asset who had 20 teams interested

2 weeks of work. More to come.
- uofcguy

Agreed. So far so good. Throw Mozza on a line with McJesus cause it sounds like he can keep up...

Cought a break by drafting mcdavid ? Really!! That’s a no brainer should never have been in the position to get him in the first place! Not sure if anybody Hurd Burke’s take on the draft but basicly said no team should be able to draft top 3 year after year after year!! Stop rewarding a franchise for horrible decisions making and bad scouts.

Holland so far has done smart moves and has thoroughly researched what needs to be done. Yes he made mistakes with the Red Wings recently and he even owned to some of them. Chiarelli was different, he always defended his moves and instantly made mistakes without thinking twice. Hopefully Holland continues to work smart, the Oilers fans need it. Otherwise it will be a longer 4 years.
- Hockey_Nutter

Agreed, so far in the short time with the team i have liked the few moves he has made( mac t and d.sutter out, low risk signing of nygard) he put together some very good teams in the time he was with the red wings. He of course did make mistakes like everyone does but his mistakes were not nearly as bad as the ones chiarelli made and continued to make, one after another. I remember when the oilers signed him as their gm and i was nervous because of how he left boston and the seguin trade. At his first draft he was set up perfectly, all he had to do was draft mcdavid and even had another great pick at 16. The moment bettman anounced that he traded the 16 and 32 for reinhart i couldnt believe anyone could be that stupid. It did not end there however and he continued to make terrible move after terrible move. I cant believe it took them as long as it did for them to fire the guy. This is why i am happy with them hiring holland though, if they were to bring in a young inexperienced gm i just feel like whoever it was would be in way over his head trying to fix this team with how many holes there are to be fixed. Holland has a ton of experience in the league and can hopefully right this ship. Tippett is also a experienced head coach and apparently is very good with the players he has coached and for the first time in his career has some elite players to ride. I read a few times during hitchcocks run as coach that the players were not gelling well with the way he coached. I feel way more optimistic about the way things will play out with the hirings now than i ever did with chiarelli as gm.

Here you go w/ the "amazing" and "best of all time" stuff.

The song sounds like David Bowie is back from the dead..no?
- rrentz

Introducing Jimmy Stardust...

How on earth this guy is allowed to blog is really a concern!

Even though they might turn out to be bad hirings, nobody respects your opinions on the sport at all. I have never come across a person, that thinks they know so much about a sport, yet knows so little in reality that it’s pathetic. Give it up and start watching cricket or anything else really. Your rants are old, tired, and sad. Much like the Oilers front office.

How on earth this guy is allowed to blog is really a concern!
- pgyfto

If I was the Oilers regular blogger I'd be a little frustrated that Tanner comes along, posts this nonsense, using a big Oilers logo. Stick to the Coyotes Tanner. You already struggle to stay on top of them. Still think it was hilarious when you vigorously defended that Schmaltz contract claiming he could be a 90-point guy...and then a few weeks later when you projected the lineup for next year you forgot Schmaltz was in the organization. Then you used the excuse that he's only played there for a short while. Like someone in Vegas forgetting that they added Mark Stone. Haha

Your a moron I think bud