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Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 25 @ 7:55 PM ET
Yeah, the dude you and I converse with on twitter all the time seems like a smart dude but he takes WAR/GAR as gospel but doesn’t take individual production into consideration at all.

It has to be a mix

- OneKaneOneCup


Agreed. And a lot of these models that are out there are far from a "finished" product.

Not a dig against those making them, its all still fairly new.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 25 @ 7:57 PM ET
Agreed. And a lot of these models that are out there are far from a "finished" product.

Not a dig against those making them, its all still fairly new.

- Sabresfan-365

I’m the one who replied “UPL?” On his rankings today.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 25 @ 7:59 PM ET
Agreed. And a lot of these models that are out there are far from a "finished" product.

Not a dig against those making them, its all still fairly new.

- Sabresfan-365

I think there’s no way to rank players effectively.

It’s obviously easy to say McDavid/Crosby/Kucherov etc are the best.

But there is just too many variables past that for a lot of guys

It’s all subjective
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 25 @ 8:03 PM ET
I have doubts too but I just have to laugh.

Thompson’s two NHL coaches he’s played under have both been fired for being awful.

Thompson’s been very very good in the AHL.

For some reason to a few, a good coach won’t help him, but could TOTALLY turn Ristolainen (who has 400+ NHL games under his belt) around.

I think TT ends up a career 3rd liner personally. Defensively sound or not

- OneKaneOneCup


If we don’t think he’s gonna be a 20+ goal scorer,
then we need to see if there’s a team out there who thinks he still could be

Maybe there wouldn’t be any kind of market for him
But it should be explored
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 25 @ 8:05 PM ET
I think there’s no way to rank players effectively.

It’s obviously easy to say McDavid/Crosby/Kucherov etc are the best.

But there is just too many variables past that for a lot of guys

It’s all subjective

- OneKaneOneCup


So criticizing a 2OA for years for “not measuring up to his draft position” is a mistake?
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 25 @ 8:09 PM ET
So criticizing a 2OA for years for “not measuring up to his draft position” is a mistake?
- Der Kaiser

I’m not sure how this is comparable to what I said but, sure man.

There’s a big difference between saying I think the ten best players in the league are ....in this specific order, and player x isn’t living up to his draft position.

And for the record I’ve been a born again Reinhartsian since about December
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 25 @ 8:13 PM ET
I’m not sure how this is comparable to what I said but, sure man.

There’s a big difference between saying I think the ten best players in the league are ....in this specific order, and player x isn’t living up to his draft position.

And for the record I’ve been a born again Reinhartsian since about December

- OneKaneOneCup


Enough that you're offing a big, long term extension? I still have reservations.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 25 @ 8:19 PM ET
I’m the one who replied “UPL?” On his rankings today.
- OneKaneOneCup


He took down the original post?
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 25 @ 8:21 PM ET
Enough that you're offing a big, long term extension? I still have reservations.
- Lunaion


No, but I'm A. Cheap and B. Believe that you don't pay any player a giant salary for long term until you absolutely have to, i.e. no more RFA rights, unless the it's a no brainer player like Eichel or Dahlin.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 25 @ 8:25 PM ET
I’m not sure how this is comparable to what I said but, sure man.

There’s a big difference between saying I think the ten best players in the league are ....in this specific order, and player x isn’t living up to his draft position.

And for the record I’ve been a born again Reinhartsian since about December

- OneKaneOneCup


That was me on Twitter.
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 25 @ 8:28 PM ET
That was me on Twitter.
- kingcong39

I figured. I kinda recognized the name from our PM exchanges when we were going to do that trade wars idea
r2so73
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 07.25.2012

May 25 @ 8:59 PM ET
I dont think I have been more uninterested in this Stanley Cup final in my entire life...
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 25 @ 9:07 PM ET
I dont think I have been more uninterested in this Stanley Cup final in my entire life...
- r2so73

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 25 @ 10:15 PM ET

James
@Account4hockey
Russo on MN radio says Jason Zucker has been shopped to CGY for Frolik/Bennett, PIT for Kessel, ARZ for Dvorak (turned down) - ARZ countered with Fischer, VGK for Marchessault, VAN for Boeser (VAN laughed and hung up).
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

May 25 @ 10:34 PM ET
When Tage is a bust the headline will read :

Time to Turn the Tage

- OneKaneOneCup


Cue the Bob Seger.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 25 @ 11:16 PM ET
I like everything about the Raptors winning this series...except Drake.
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 25 @ 11:21 PM ET
I like everything about the Raptors winning this series...except Drake.
- buffalofan19


I almost forgot how fun this can be...almost


Demolish the statues at leafs square and build one for kwahi...and one of drake giving nick nurse a shoulder rub
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 26 @ 12:19 AM ET
Meh Raptors are going to get swept

Going to be the easiest title ever
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 26 @ 12:41 AM ET
Meh Raptors are going to get swept

Going to be the easiest title ever

- gerbe75pts

Meh, didn’t you call them chokers like 3 rounds ago?
Sabresfan-365
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Lockport, NY
Joined: 12.09.2012

May 26 @ 1:11 AM ET
Meh Raptors are going to get swept

Going to be the easiest title ever

- gerbe75pts


https://twitter.com/OldTa...tatus/1132484934264852481


The tweet below it is appropriate too
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 26 @ 2:09 AM ET
If we’re going to pretend he didn’t have very good games at times this year than it’s total revisionist history.

As a whole it was horrible.

But again he’s young and was stuck with Sobotka who’s one of the leagues worst players for both years.

Thompson had a run of 15-20 games (I did the numbers at the time) where he was top 60 in individual shot attempts and SC’s

- OneKaneOneCup


But what u refuse to acknowledge/accept is that he didn’t do anything with all those chances

And stop blaming Sobotka
That argument doesn’t hold up, since he was getting all kinds of chances with him

Will he learn how to convert those chances?
Still tbd
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 26 @ 2:16 AM ET
https://twitter.com/OldTakesExposed/status/1132484934264852481

The tweet below it is appropriate too

- Sabresfan-365


Which tweet? The one where many thought it was over when the Bucks had won the first 2 games and looked like they had continued to be the best team in the East?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 26 @ 3:01 AM ET
Meh, didn’t you call them chokers like 3 rounds ago?
- OneKaneOneCup


And last year and the year before that.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 26 @ 7:46 AM ET
https://twitter.com/proho.../1132444033446436865?s=21

If Calgary makes TJ Brodie available don’t we have to be making those calls?
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 26 @ 8:40 AM ET
https://twitter.com/prohockeyrumors/status/1132444033446436865?s=21

If Calgary makes TJ Brodie available don’t we have to be making those calls?

- Der Kaiser


Yes, if for nothing else than for data gathering.

As for filling Sabres need, not so much IMO as the LhD isn't a problem area with Dahlin, Pilut and McCabe there now. McCabe could play on the right, which might be the play down the road for him when Bogo's contract expires and IF they trade Risto.

Brodie has 1 yr at $4.8m...does he get $5.5 -$6.5m next contract? Where do you slot him to get proper value...it would have to be on 2nd pairing.
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