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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 23 @ 2:55 PM ET
It's yet another contract a team will want to get out from under before it's even half over.
- buffalofan19


Cap went up 4.5M last year, going up 6M this year, and probably 7.5M next year.

Him signing a 6x6 is basically a 6x4 or less as the years go by. He's only 27. Really in his prime but will be a 45-63 pt player for his career most likely that is correct.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
VOMITS EVERYWHERE.
- ImThatGuy

Terrible isn't it.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 2:56 PM ET
Interesting...2 year extension

Penguins GM Jim Rutherford on @chad5ruhwedel: “Chad has exemplified what it means to be a team player the past two years. His work ethic and conditioning have allowed him to jump into the lineup at a moment’s notice, which is vital to a team’s success.”

https://twitter.com/pengu.../1131617079646445568?s=21

- washedup20


solid reserve d-man
JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

May 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
Terrible isn't it.
- SABRES 89


Okposo will be LTIR for AT LEAST 2 of those years... maybe 3 or 4 I'm betting.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 23 @ 2:57 PM ET
6M for your 2C? Folks here wanna pay Duchene 7-8.5M. Duchene is a 60 point player though.

4 out of 5 full seasons as a 20 goal scorer... 1 50 point season...

Honestly this 6x6 could be used as a comparable to Samson.

- JVince11


Based on that contract you are looking at 7+ for Reinhart if he hits 50 points again.

Reinhart is younger and is better than Nelson.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
On another team
- SABRES 89


Nope. Right here in the Blue and Gold, where he belongs.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 2:58 PM ET
Time is a running out for him
- Stripes77


Very true. Which is why he'll be more driven now. It's never been about talent.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 3:01 PM ET
Based on that contract you are looking at 7+ for Reinhart if he hits 50 points again.

Reinhart is younger and is better than Nelson.

- ImThatGuy


Also a winger which does lessen it somewhat.

7 sounds about right though. I'd be very happy with 6x6.

We should have taken the long term 5.5 originally. Hindsight is 20/20.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 23 @ 3:12 PM ET
Nope. Right here in the Blue and Gold, where he belongs.
- RhinoFan

We will see
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 23 @ 3:21 PM ET
Also a winger which does lessen it somewhat.

7 sounds about right though. I'd be very happy with 6x6.

We should have taken the long term 5.5 originally. Hindsight is 20/20.

- RhinoFan


My super basic math is 1.2m for every 10 points averaged over your career.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 23 @ 3:47 PM ET
My super basic math is 1.2m for every 10 points averaged over your career.
- ImThatGuy


You know, that's actually pretty ingenious. Not a firm rule, but looking at contracts recently signed around the league that does seem like a pretty good gauge.

Still, if Samson scores 65 pts next year (bringing his average to 53.5), it would bring his "value" to 6.45M per which to me would be fair.
sabresfan69
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 23 @ 3:55 PM ET
Funny I got roasted here for saying Brock Nelson 6x6 and that is exactly what he signed for.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 23 @ 3:56 PM ET
Funny I got roasted here for saying Brock Nelson 6x6 and that is exactly what he signed for.
- sabresfan69

I'm indifferent.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 23 @ 4:02 PM ET
It’s easier to blame a player while ignoring the incompetent organization he entered.

Stability and leadership will go along way for the youth of the team.

- washedup20


It has been more of them same dating back to his Junior days.
Perimeter player, soft, loses interest.
Nope, trade him while there is a sliver of value.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 23 @ 4:09 PM ET
Funny I got roasted here for saying Brock Nelson 6x6 and that is exactly what he signed for.
- sabresfan69


It's ok, we are still laughing at other stuff.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 23 @ 4:19 PM ET
When I first read this title I thought the letter "F" was his grade and not his position. So that's where my mental capacity is of our former 8th overall draft pick.


Whooooopsie...

- JVince11

its pretty much his grade too
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

May 23 @ 4:21 PM ET
Funny I got roasted here for saying Brock Nelson 6x6 and that is exactly what he signed for.
- sabresfan69

but were you laughed at?
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

May 23 @ 4:24 PM ET
but were you laughed at?
- Michael Pachla

Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 23 @ 4:50 PM ET
Funny I got roasted here for saying Brock Nelson 6x6 and that is exactly what he signed for.
- sabresfan69


Fair to say it would have taken more for us to land him. Glad there's no longer that temptation.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Interesting...2 year extension

Penguins GM Jim Rutherford on @chad5ruhwedel: “Chad has exemplified what it means to be a team player the past two years. His work ethic and conditioning have allowed him to jump into the lineup at a moment’s notice, which is vital to a team’s success.”

https://twitter.com/pengu.../1131617079646445568?s=21

- washedup20


Everybody could use a $Fiver
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 23 @ 5:13 PM ET
Correct me if I am wrong but the last lockout was mainly because the players wanted more money in contracts because the owners were making such large margins

OR

The owners wanted it because the contracts were getting over-inflated and their margins weren't big enough because of so??

I can't remember?

- JVince11


A lockout is a lockout

A strike is a strike.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 5:24 PM ET
A lockout is a lockout

A strike is a strike.

- Der Kaiser


Goddamn bourgeois bettman getting fat off the backs off the proletariat
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 23 @ 5:32 PM ET
Goddamn bourgeois bettman getting fat off the backs off the proletariat
- jcragcrumple


He’s getting bourgeoisie fat off the fat of the owners, who are oppressing the proletariat.

But it doesn’t change the fact that everybody could use a $Fiver.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 23 @ 5:36 PM ET
He’s getting bourgeoisie fat off the fat of the owners, who are oppressing the proletariat.

But it doesn’t change the fact that everybody could use a $Fiver.

- Der Kaiser


Like Eklund getting fat off the backs of the commentariat here. He must be making literally dozens of dollars a day
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

May 23 @ 5:40 PM ET
Like Eklund getting fat off the backs of the commentariat here. He must be making literally dozens of dollars a day
- jcragcrumple


Baby, that’s got no flavor - there’s fever in the funkhouse now.

https://youtu.be/Vb-ltrimRG4
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