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- Rota's Rooter

Are you sure that isn't John C. Reilly playing Yukon on the Canadian Biography Channel??

Posted to the last thread not long before the new blog went up, so copying over:

Whomever the Hawks take is likely a year or two away from the NHL. Development is critical. Which coach do you trust more?

Tony Granato with Turcotte?
Michael Dyck with Byram? (He’s coached him since 2015 on and off)
Kisio the younger with Cozens?
- gmurban

Trust more for what? Do you mean hire a private coach for the draft pick?

[quote=paulr]There is no certainty for any player including Cozens. If the GM feels the best prospect, in the long run is Byram, they will choose Byram. If they feel it is Cozens they will choose Cozens. If they feel it is Caufield, they will choose Caufield, etc..

And all this talk about him playing away from home as a young kid, you do realize this isn't a new story? Many, many, many kids leave home as young as 14 and somethimes younger, live with Billets and play hockey in another, town, Province, State and even country. Cozens' background isn't a factor in any way. While he may be more mature from that experience it will be mainly hockey ability and projection that will be what Bowman is looking for,/quote]

Didn't Kaner do the same?

Posted to the last thread not long before the new blog went up, so copying over:

Whomever the Hawks take is likely a year or two away from the NHL. Development is critical. Which coach do you trust more?

Tony Granato with Turcotte?
Michael Dyck with Byram? (He’s coached him since 2015 on and off)
Kisio the younger with Cozens?
- gmurban

Don't know much about any of those coaches. I'm guessing management will have player development coaches deployed around the world to work with prospects similar to Brian Campbell working with Boqvist in London and Mark Eaton working with Sikura when he was at Northeastern. IMO, that may matter more than who the prospect's current coaches are.

Since 29 out 31 teams have been eliminated from playoffs, I'm sure lots of trades proposals are being discussed among GM"s. We should see some action whren the last playoff round concludes in a couple of weeks.

Hopefully Stan makes a few tweaks to the roster including adding a decent top 4 D and 1 or 2 defensive minded/PK capable forwards.

[quote=paulr]There is no certainty for any player including Cozens. If the GM feels the best prospect, in the long run is Byram, they will choose Byram. If they feel it is Cozens they will choose Cozens. If they feel it is Caufield, they will choose Caufield, etc..

And all this talk about him playing away from home as a young kid, you do realize this isn't a new story? Many, many, many kids leave home as young as 14 and somethimes younger, live with Billets and play hockey in another, town, Province, State and even country. Cozens' background isn't a factor in any way. While he may be more mature from that experience it will be mainly hockey ability and projection that will be what Bowman is looking for,/quote]

Didn't Kaner do the same?
- vabeachbear

Yes as well as Toews, Crosby, many European players, the list goes on.

Richard The Bruiser & The Crusher wee the absolute best.
- scottak

And then there was Mr. X who went toe to toe with these guys but always lost.

[quote=paulr]There is no certainty for any player including Cozens. If the GM feels the best prospect, in the long run is Byram, they will choose Byram. If they feel it is Cozens they will choose Cozens. If they feel it is Caufield, they will choose Caufield, etc..

And all this talk about him playing away from home as a young kid, you do realize this isn't a new story? Many, many, many kids leave home as young as 14 and somethimes younger, live with Billets and play hockey in another, town, Province, State and even country. Cozens' background isn't a factor in any way. While he may be more mature from that experience it will be mainly hockey ability and projection that will be what Bowman is looking for,/quote]

Didn't Kaner do the same?
- vabeachbear

Mark Kelley mentioned that speaking with a players billets as one of the the things they do to get an overall feel for the kid and his character, ethics etc... in a recent interview.

Since 29 out 31 teams have been eliminated from playoffs, I'm sure lots of trades proposals are being discussed among GM"s. We should see some action whren the last playoff round concludes in a couple of weeks.

Hopefully Stan makes a few tweaks to the roster including adding a decent top 4 D and 1 or 2 defensive minded/PK capable forwards.
- boilermaker100

Physical players also watching the playoffs be physical and winning board battles going to the net are still important.

Yes as well as Toews, Crosby, many European players, the list goes on.
- paulr

As I said it not about him leaving home early ,it about him being discovered to be given the chance leave home .He had to travel huge distances to find elite competition, and that before he was 14 .And then he had to prove himself . It his dedication from such a young age that stands out to me . Playing in a men's league at the age of 12 also say's something about his confidence as a young kid . (broke his leg )

Traveling to STL for work and having lots of customers there, I am pulling hard for the Blues.....the city and fans have been waiting a long time. watching that game proved how badly I miss meaningful playoff hockey here.

Rip me all you want for pulling for the "Blows: but I hate Boston. can't stand them, the city, the fans, the players, the organization.

Having the cup champ in your division you would think would raise the urgency at 1901 w Madison.

I have no idea who they may or may not draft, who may be a bust, who may be good, as we wont' see that player for year(s) unless the top 2, Hughes or the finnish kid, drop down.

Instead, I want to see how the hell Bowman is going to fix his dumpster fire of a defense and stop bringing back the same players.
- SteveRain

The City? Really?

I get the hate for their sports teams, but Boston is an amazing city. If it weren’t so GD expensive, I would live there in a heartbeat.

Just going by Cities, St. Louis is a cesspool compared to Boston.

[quote=paulr]There is no certainty for any player including Cozens. If the GM feels the best prospect, in the long run is Byram, they will choose Byram. If they feel it is Cozens they will choose Cozens. If they feel it is Caufield, they will choose Caufield, etc..

And all this talk about him playing away from home as a young kid, you do realize this isn't a new story? Many, many, many kids leave home as young as 14 and somethimes younger, live with Billets and play hockey in another, town, Province, State and even country. Cozens' background isn't a factor in any way. While he may be more mature from that experience it will be mainly hockey ability and projection that will be what Bowman is looking for,/quote]

Didn't Kaner do the same?
- vabeachbear

AND oh so many young hockey players?

I think at #3 you consider it, but the upside and how you help your team long term comes first.

But consider:
1) How many times have we wanted the team to add big skilled scorer especially one able to play the centre position and skate like gazelle?

2) Cozens has no history of injuries.

3) No worries of a signing elsewhere b/c he can't decide he wanst to play 4 years for bum(frank) University and scoot.

4) There is a clear history of the Hawks taking Chicago area prospects only to bail on them early if there is any hint they have average upside, their representative's intent of negotiate higher dollars than the team is comfortable with after their early performance reviews, based on the intial rookie deal.

(sorry Tyler, could hold back any longer, lol)
- wiz1901

Haha. All good.

I've been having trouble holding back as well.

AND oh so many young hockey players?
- wiz1901

Wiz I may have asked this before so forgive me if I did. Say Hughes drops o 3 who do the hawks choose Hughes or Cozens.. To me hughes seems to be injury prone due to his smallish frame he will fill out at some point but cozens is already 6 3 185 lb and probably fill out at 215 lb 200ft game speed skill size hard decision. I would still take cozens in my opinion but would like to know who would you pick?

Wiz I may have asked this before so forgive me if I did. Say Hughes drops o 3 who do the hawks choose Hughes or Cozens.. To me hughes seems to be injury prone due to his smallish frame he will fill out at some point but cozens is already 6 3 185 lb and probably fill out at 215 lb 200ft game speed skill size hard decision. I would still take cozens in my opinion but would like to know who would you pick?
- Scott1977

Caufield.

Wiz I may have asked this before so forgive me if I did. Say Hughes drops o 3 who do the hawks choose Hughes or Cozens.. To me hughes seems to be injury prone due to his smallish frame he will fill out at some point but cozens is already 6 3 185 lb and probably fill out at 215 lb 200ft game speed skill size hard decision. I would still take cozens in my opinion but would like to know who would you pick?
- Scott1977

I have been battered over this because i want to serve a need. Which is to say, select Cozens here. The better choice is to take the best player available; Mark Kelly had even said that you take the best player whom you see being just that in 3-4 years. Hughes is the one if he is available at #3.

On Hughes, perhaps you saw Kane comment on him this week during the World Championship qualifying. He.said that Hughes does some things better than himself. Mighty high praise.

So you can hope Hughes and the Finn go top two. You can thank the NYR whom despite a new GM might go the Scandanavian countries/Russian route they have so much adorned in past years. Or rumors have them taking the dman. Then Bowman has to take Hughes over Cozens. And I will swear although i know it is probably the right thing to do. If this happens, maybe worththeCup and i will have to hook up at a bar and throw darts at a Bowman picture on a wall.

Just goes to show us how our great ecpectations on.prospects can be dashed.......so don't get too excited about all your team's prospects......do be excited about the.#3 Blackhawks pick

But as i was saying......only a couple years or so ago the Cubs had an embarassment of riches of sluggers. Hr hitters. Soler, Schwarber, Vogelbach, Happ, Bryant, Rizzo, J Baez even Russell. How many of them are producing now or even on the team. Three of them are all or nothing and not really helping their team anywhere as much as once hyped. Russell is in limbo and Vogelbach plays in relative obscurity, although his numbers are close to Soler's i might say he offers a bit more hope than Soler.

Wiz I may have asked this before so forgive me if I did. Say Hughes drops o 3 who do the hawks choose Hughes or Cozens.. To me hughes seems to be injury prone due to his smallish frame he will fill out at some point but cozens is already 6 3 185 lb and probably fill out at 215 lb 200ft game speed skill size hard decision. I would still take cozens in my opinion but would like to know who would you pick?
- Scott1977

Bowman HAS to go with the best player available. You can never go wrong when you select the player who scouts feel will turn into the better player. If down the road the Hawks need a bigger player they can try to trade for one or they can concentrate on size or position in later rounds. If Bowman uses the #3 pick to choose a player based on anything but projected ability he should lose his job. No successful sports team overlooks talent for any other criteria.

Bowman HAS to go with the best player available. You can never go wrong when you select the player who scouts feel will turn into the better player. If down the road the Hawks need a bigger player they can try to trade for one or they can concentrate on size or position in later rounds. If Bowman uses the #3 pick to choose a player based on anything but projected ability he should lose his job. No successful sports team overlooks talent for any other criteria.
- paulr

I doubt you’ll get much disagreement there. The real argument is who IS the BPA? I have no clue, so on draft day, as long as we get one of the names everyone has been talking about, and not some no-name outta left field, I won’t complain...until four years from now when whoever went 4th is better

I have been battered over this because i want to serve a need. Which is to say, select Cozens here. The better choice is to take the best player available; Mark Kelly had even said that you take the best player whom you see being just that in 3-4 years. Hughes is the one if he is available at #3.

On Hughes, perhaps you saw Kane comment on him this week during the World Championship qualifying. He.said that Hughes does some things better than himself. Mighty high praise.

So you can hope Hughes and the Finn go top two. You can thank the NYR whom despite a new GM might go the Scandanavian countries/Russian route they have so much adorned in past years. Or rumors have them taking the dman. Then Bowman has to take Hughes over Cozens. And I will swear although i know it is probably the right thing to do. If this happens, maybe worththeCup and i will have to hook up at a bar and throw darts at a Bowman picture on a wall.
- jhawk59

Ok good points just stating from i have seen of Hughes which limited and i am no scout or hockey expert i came away disappointed thats all.

I doubt you’ll get much disagreement there. The real argument is who IS the BPA? I have no clue, so on draft day, as long as we get one of the names everyone has been talking about, and not some no-name outta left field, I won’t complain...until four years from now when whoever went 4th is better
- Ogilthorpe2

This is the truth. Zegras, Cozens, Byram, Turcotte, Dach... (obviously Kakko/Hughes too)

As long as the Hawks call one of those names, i'll be content. I'd prefer Hughes, kakko or Cozens. I think they will make the biggest impact on the quickest time table. but like you said, in 4 years, Turcotte or Dach or Byram could make the pick look bad, and only then, we will know.

I doubt you’ll get much disagreement there. The real argument is who IS the BPA? I have no clue, so on draft day, as long as we get one of the names everyone has been talking about, and not some no-name outta left field, I won’t complain...until four years from now when whoever went 4th is better
- Ogilthorpe2

You just know something like that is going to happen.

The City? Really?

I get the hate for their sports teams, but Boston is an amazing city. If it weren’t so GD expensive, I would live there in a heartbeat.

Just going by Cities, St. Louis is a cesspool compared to Boston.
- Ogilthorpe2

I’ve lived in both STL & BOS, and it isn’t even close. BOSTON is a mecca for the arts, education, culture, history, etc. their sports fans are as passionate as we are in Chicago.

STL is a hell hole that should have large sections razed and rebuilt.

I’ve lived in both STL & BOS, and it isn’t even close. BOSTON is a mecca for the arts, education, culture, history, etc. their sports fans are as passionate as we are in Chicago.

STL is a hell hole that should have large sections razed and rebuilt.
- scottak

St. Louis USED to be a great town - great food (especially Italian on the Hill), music (and strippers) in Gaslight, blues east of the river - very good sports town with the Hawks, two Cardinals (one of which they stole from Chicago)....

And then there was Mr. X who went toe to toe with these guys but always lost.
- FourOrr

LOL that was the referee Dangerous Danny Davis!