Tavares (frank)ed them and didn't even get them out of the first round.
- manvanfan

It will only get worse too lol

Fine, you are welcome to be worried about their cap problems. I’ll bet you they open the season with a full roster, including Marner and Nylander, and that they make the playoffs again next year while the Canucks don’t...
- 1970vintage

I honestly hope they do. I want to draft a young D and forget about trading this years pick. Secondly that would mean they could not afford to fix their back end.

Win /win

They have 8.8 cap space and Marner Kapanen Johnsson needing contracts and 17 players signed.

Moving Kadri gives them 16 players signed and an extra 4.5 per year. So 13 mil to sign 7 players and Marner wants 11 mil. Plus they still have a crap D group and a hole at third line center.
- VANTEL

Some ppl ignore the math bro 😂👍

Speaking of math how about the Jets & VGK?

Later boys . Wife wants to go to the movies . What a demanding b1tch

Later boys . Wife wants to go to the movies . What a demanding b1tch
- VANTEL

Cya bro 😂

What a game. Leonard in beast mode.

Tavares (frank)ed them and didn't even get them out of the first round.
- manvanfan

Lol. Ya a 47 goal scorer screwed the leafs
Lol
Some of the post on here are a joke.
Its funny you guys talk about the leafs so much.
Next year the cap will be tight.
After that, not so much.
The leafs have 3 great centers two of which are superstars, they have a great goalie and a great dman with some young D and forward talent coming up.
Theyll be fine after next year.

I think you are clearly on a very different level on how much it would cost to acquire a 60 point forward on a team with a terrible cap situation.

Mark Stone cost a very good prospect, a plug and a 2020 2nd and he's a heck of a lot better than Nylander.

Kevin Hayes cost a late mid 1st, a young bottom 6 players and a 4th.
- manvanfan

Very big difference in situation....mark stone was soon to be free agent that was not going to resign in Ottawa..

Willy is holding a what ...6 or 7 year contract?

It's pretty easy to look at going rates and see comparable trades around the league. It's not hard to see what the value is for a player like William Nylander.

Toronto isn't going to trade a player like Nylander and take away from a team without getting something that can help them out now. They aren't a team interested in a lot of futures.
- manvanfan

Of course they're interested in futures, the best players on their team aside from Tavares are under 25.

Do they want a piece that helps them now? Tanev is the clear answer to that.

Tavares (frank)ed them and didn't even get them out of the first round.
- manvanfan

When I read things like this I get all giddy😁

No, Tankists recognize that the team is already bad, and want them to embrace what they are and do their best to improve their future by adding additional draft picks and/or prospects so that as the team naturally improves it has a lot of players to choose from.
- 1970vintage

So...what more would you have the team do at this point? In the past 5 seasons we've added Horvat, Boeser, Demko, Peterson and Hughes. The team is now in a position to not be picking in the top 10 anymore. We'll be lucky to get a decent dman at the draft this year and considering the depth of the draft BPA ain't gonna be no great shakes. 5 years should be enough to 'build through the draft' unless it's the Oliers lol.

We've added Leivo and Pearson who have been solid. Now just a winger to play with Bo and an RHD to round out things this season. Can make decisions on Sutter Baerthci Edler Tanev as the year progresses. Promote Sautner and maybe another AHL D after Hutton is gone possibly.

Bottom line is we will not be picking top 10 in 2020. Need to start wrapping our heads around that. There are other ways to build, drafting and developing is only 33% of the process. Lots more intangibles to think about other than stockpiling picks.

I honestly hope they do. I want to draft a young D and forget about trading this years pick. Secondly that would mean they could not afford to fix their back end.

Win /win
- VANTEL

I honestly can't believe we're at the point where we have to add to the 10th pick.

So...what more would you have the team do at this point? In the past 5 seasons we've added Horvat, Boeser, Demko, Peterson and Hughes. The team is now in a position to not be picking in the top 10 anymore. We'll be lucky to get a decent dman at the draft this year and considering the depth of the draft BPA ain't gonna be no great shakes. 5 years should be enough to 'build through the draft' unless it's the Oliers lol.

We've added Leivo and Pearson who have been solid. Now just a winger to play with Bo and an RHD to round out things this season. Can make decisions on Sutter Baerthci Edler Tanev as the year progresses. Promote Sautner and maybe another AHL D after Hutton is gone possibly.

Bottom line is we will not be picking top 10 in 2020. Need to start wrapping our heads around that. There are other ways to build, drafting and developing is only 33% of the process. Lots more intangibles to think about other than stockpiling picks.
- LordHumungous

Great cheerleading. The D is an outright sh1t show.

Lol. Ya a 47 goal scorer screwed the leafs
Lol
Some of the post on here are a joke.
Its funny you guys talk about the leafs so much.
Next year the cap will be tight.
After that, not so much.
The leafs have 3 great centers two of which are superstars, they have a great goalie and a great dman with some young D and forward talent coming up.
Theyll be fine after next year.
- Fakepartofme

Aren't performance bonus spilling over to next season?

I honestly hope they do. I want to draft a young D and forget about trading this years pick. Secondly that would mean they could not afford to fix their back end.

Win /win
- VANTEL

Is this the Leafs thread?

So...what more would you have the team do at this point? In the past 5 seasons we've added Horvat, Boeser, Demko, Peterson and Hughes. The team is now in a position to not be picking in the top 10 anymore. We'll be lucky to get a decent dman at the draft this year and considering the depth of the draft BPA ain't gonna be no great shakes. 5 years should be enough to 'build through the draft' unless it's the Oliers lol.

We've added Leivo and Pearson who have been solid. Now just a winger to play with Bo and an RHD to round out things this season. Can make decisions on Sutter Baerthci Edler Tanev as the year progresses. Promote Sautner and maybe another AHL D after Hutton is gone possibly.

Bottom line is we will not be picking top 10 in 2020. Need to start wrapping our heads around that. There are other ways to build, drafting and developing is only 33% of the process. Lots more intangibles to think about other than stockpiling picks.
- LordHumungous

Water under the bridge. As I said, it’s too late now. Now, I just want JB to hold fast to the plan and not do something stupid like trade a first a second and OJ for Nylander...

Is this the Leafs thread?
- Reubenkincade

No, leafs fans are less obsessed with the team than this

No, leafs fans are less obsessed with the team than this
- 1970vintage

True.

Great cheerleading. The D is an outright sh1t show.
- VanHockeyGuy

How do you fix it?
Looking better than the Leafs D no matter what.

Water under the bridge. As I said, it’s too late now. Now, I just want JB to hold fast to the plan and not do something stupid like trade a first a second and OJ for Nylander...
- 1970vintage

But we weren’t discussing trading that much for Nylander. It seems like you’re driving his price up by yourself and then saying that it’s ridiculous.

We are talking about a cap strapped team, that needs to either trade a player such as Nylander or lose one of their own RFA’s. We’ve already established that he won’t get full value in a trade due to cap constraints.

If they want the moon for him, then it’s not a sound trade for the Canucks.

But we weren’t discussing trading that much for Nylander. It seems like you’re driving his price up by yourself and then saying that it’s ridiculous.

We are talking about a cap strapped team, that needs to either trade a player such as Nylander or lose one of their own RFA’s. We’ve already established that he won’t get full value in a trade due to cap constraints.

If they want the moon for him, then it’s not a sound trade for the Canucks.
- golfingsince

Look, I’m not into discussing if I would trade one first round pick for a legit top 6 forward (who’s what, 23?) I would. But that’s not a realistic option, so it doesn’t make sense. You’re trying to use the Chewbacca defense on me and it isn’t working.

Later boys . Wife wants to go to the movies . What a demanding b1tch
- VANTEL

Take your phone and post lol.

How do you fix it?
Looking better than the Leafs D no matter what.
- Nighthawk

Continue to draft and develop. Savvy hockey trades. Stay away from the high $ FA market.