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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 3:26 PM ET
Seems a bit pedophilic to me
- NorthNuck


as long as they’re 18 it’s fine, nothing wrong with a good looking young hockey player
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 22 @ 3:27 PM ET
That is a f*cking stupid comment, Northy.
- Marwood

You're only saying that cause I beat you to it
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 22 @ 3:28 PM ET
as long as they’re 18 it’s fine, nothing wrong with a good looking young hockey player
- Nucker101

Fair enough
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ya I don’t have your don cherry style bigotry, you do know that people from other countries are as diverse as they are here, right? I think he’d be good as a LW add if it was around 4.5-5x4
- neem55


Not bigotry,

>We seen to have issues with Russians

>We have lots of Swedes

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 3:30 PM ET
Not bigotry,

>We seen to have issues with Russians

>We have lots of Swedes

- VanHockeyGuy

Euro's are taking over the league. This is NA hockey. They took our jeeavs.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 3:34 PM ET
Euro's are taking over the league. This is NA hockey. They took our jeeavs.
- thundachunk


Russians and the KHL card, Swedes and their NTC's. Just get someone who's happy to be playing and can contribute ffs.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 22 @ 3:46 PM ET
You're only saying that cause I beat you to it
- NorthNuck

Nope, I thought it was a stupid comment. Suggesting someone is a pedophile is going a little far. I didn't like it when it was done to me.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 22 @ 3:50 PM ET
Nope, I thought it was a stupid comment. Suggesting someone is a pedophile is going a little far. I didn't like it when it was done to me.
- Marwood

There's a difference between calling someone a pedophile and describing an opinion as pedophilic for a humorous purpose, but nevertheless I figured it wouldn't offend him. Sorry if it offended you.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 3:52 PM ET
Russians and the KHL card, Swedes and their NTC's. Just get someone who's happy to be playing and can contribute ffs.
- VanHockeyGuy

Yeah that's where I am at. Buy in and be happy to play.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 4:03 PM ET
Yeah that's where I am at. Buy in and be happy to play.
- thundachunk


Yup, a reason Schenn should be re-signed.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:06 PM ET
Yeah that's where I am at. Buy in and be happy to play.
- thundachunk



Only way players will take paycuts to help the team is if they get some sort of a NTC, why buy-in to something that you may not even be apart of in the future? Doesn't make logical sense.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 22 @ 4:09 PM ET
Only way players will take paycuts to help the team is if they get some sort of a NTC, why buy-in to something that you may not even be apart of in the future? Doesn't make logical sense.
- Nucker101


where did he mention "pay cuts"?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:13 PM ET
where did I mention "pay cuts"?
- VanHockeyGuy


what do you guys mean by buy-in then? You mentioned NTC’s so I’m confused.


Like play hard for the team? I think most of the team does that, some of them just don’t have the talent to be anything more than scrubs or depth players at best. Guys like Pouliot, Sutter, Hutton, Granlund, Beagle, Schaller get criticized but it’s rarely due to lack of effort.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 4:16 PM ET
Only way players will take paycuts to help the team is if they get some sort of a NTC, why buy-in to something that you may not even be apart of in the future? Doesn't make logical sense.
- Nucker101

So why not have a NTC system like the NBA?

For example in the NBA, no-trade clauses can only be negotiated into contracts when a player has at least four years of service for the team he is signing the contract with and at least eight years total in the NBA.

Guys want security I get that but to say why buy into something you may not be apart of in the future is asinine. Explain how it is not logical. NHL careers are already short.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 4:18 PM ET
what do you guys mean by buy-in then? You mentioned NTC’s so I’m confused.


Like play hard for the team? I think most of the team does that, some of them just don’t have the talent to be anything more than scrubs or depth players at best. Guys like Pouliot, Sutter, Hutton, Granlund, Beagle, Schaller get criticized but it’s rarely due to lack of effort.

- Nucker101

I think you misunderstood. I was talking about buying into the culture and coaching system of the team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:23 PM ET
So why not have a NTC system like the NBA?

For example in the NBA, no-trade clauses can only be negotiated into contracts when a player has at least four years of service for the team he is signing the contract with and at least eight years total in the NBA.

Guys want security I get that but to say why buy into something you may not be apart of in the future is asinine. Explain how it is not logical. NHL careers are already short.

- thundachunk


Bo’s next contract:

“Hey Bo, we really want to build a winner here, but we need this core group here to sacrifice a bit financially to allow us to surround you guys with enough help”

“Sounds good, Mr. GM, I’ll take 0.5M-1.0M less per year to make this happen. I’m looking forward to being apart of something special here”


*2 years later*

“Bo, you’ve been traded for a better player who unexpectedly asked for a trade, it’s a move we had to make to improve our team.”


Why should the player take a pay cut and not protect himself from this possibility? Even if it’s a long shot, it’s something he’d at least want a limited NTC for.


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:25 PM ET
I think you misunderstood. I was talking about buying into the culture and coaching system of the team.
- thundachunk


ahh, my bad then. NTC’s were mentioned so that’s what I was curious about.


I don’t think buying in has been an issue, although I would love to see more of a pack mentality on the ice. That’s something that starts with development in the AHL, I’ve read that teams like the Bruins strongly emphasis that even as early during rookie camps, that’s why every player in Boston seems to grow bigger balls.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 22 @ 4:26 PM ET
Not bigotry,

>We seen to have issues with Russians

>We have lots of Swedes

- VanHockeyGuy

Recently maybe. We also had three of the best russians ever play multiple seasons here... so... yeah kinda not really.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

May 22 @ 4:26 PM ET
I posted my top 15 ranked players in here. Feel free to do the same when you are ready.

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...read.php?thread_id=157519

- manvanfan


Will do
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 4:27 PM ET
Bo’s next contract:

“Hey Bo, we really want to build a winner here, but we need this core group here to sacrifice a bit financially to allow us to surround you guys with enough help”

“Sounds good, Mr. GM, I’ll take 0.5M-1.0M less per year to make this happen. I’m looking forward to being apart of something special here”


*2 years later*

“Bo, you’ve been traded for a better player who unexpectedly asked for a trade, it’s a move we had to make to improve our team.”


Why should the player take a pay cut and not protect himself from this possibility? Even if it’s a long shot, it’s something he’d at least want a limited NTC for.

- Nucker101

That's the reality of the life you chose and love.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 22 @ 4:28 PM ET
There's a difference between calling someone a pedophile and describing an opinion as pedophilic for a humorous purpose, but nevertheless I figured it wouldn't offend him. Sorry if it offended you.
- NorthNuck

It’s usually humorous purposes, going to offend people if that’s a live nerve regardless of whether it was joking.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 22 @ 4:31 PM ET
Euro's are taking over the league. This is NA hockey. They took our jeeavs.
- thundachunk

Seems like the yanks are taking over tge league to me
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:33 PM ET
Recently maybe. We also had three of the best russians ever play multiple seasons here... so... yeah kinda not really.
- neem55


I still don’t understand the labeling of players. I’ve seen players who I’d go to war with from both Sweden/Russia and plenty of soft Canadian/Americans. Sweden especially I think gets a biased rep from Canuck fans because of recency bias with Canuck players.

I still remember, as a kid, being in awe of what a beast Peter Forsberg was. Then there’s guys like Ohlund, Franzen, Zetterberg, Holmstrom, Hornqvist, Landeskog, Steen, Kronwall, Backlund, Arvidsson, Larsson, etc who aren’t soft at all
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 22 @ 4:34 PM ET
That's the reality of the life you chose and love.
- thundachunk


So if you were one of the better players on a team negotiating a new contract, you’d blindly trust management to not trade you? I doubt it man
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 22 @ 4:37 PM ET
Seems like the yanks are taking over tge league to me
- neem55

They live in NA too.
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