Nylander for Kessel, a prospect, and a #7 dman.

The Leafs are already paying 1.2 of his salary, so this will actually save money

Picture this PP formation. Malkin on his one T side, Subban on his, Letang up top, 59/72 in front and 87 down low: Letang dishes over to Malkin and cuts down the middle towards the net. Malkin A) rips the puck on net with 3 players at or going to the net B) gives it down low to Sid who feeds Letang for a 1T or sauces it further to Subban for the 1T (which wasn’t an option with Phil) or C) if the PK follows Letang down low then Malkin gives it back to Subban for the 1T (or he in turn gives it right back to Geno for his) and we still have 3 guys in and around the net

You literally can’t take anything away with this setup because it highlights a 2 on 1 in so many segments and the best part is that Crosby is often the guy passing on the odd man opportunity lol

Kessels pt totals are directly a result from Malkin and Crosby.

If he gets traded he will be a disappointment on most teams.

Who really wants a softie like Nylander? Plus more like Kessel for Nylander, a prospect and a #7 dman

Kessels pt totals are directly a result from Malkin and Crosby.

If he gets traded he will be a disappointment on most teams.
- Leniwm1

You are so wrong, do you even watch my Pens??

You are so wrong, do you even watch my Pens??
- joegreif17

Why the hell would I watch the Pens?

5v5 WOWY past 2 years

Malkin-Kessel (Malkin w/out Kessel)-
CF 50.9 (52.2) SF 50.3 (53.5)
GF 49.6(51.8) xGF 50.0 (54.4)
SCF 51.4 (55.0) HDCF 47.6 (55.3)
HDGF 40.4 (57.7). PDO .998 (.994)
Offensive FO 70.1 (56.1)

So they're heavily sheltered yet get worse results. Honestly the Malkin-Kessel chemistry is the most overrated thing here. You want a better Malkin, get him wings who will get him the puck.

Kessels pt totals are directly a result from Malkin and Crosby.

If he gets traded he will be a disappointment on most teams.
- Leniwm1

So true, he was a 20 point guy in Toronto!

So true, he was a 20 point guy in Toronto!
- Brukie

Bro he's 31... its all down hill. Nice bringing sarcasm that was from yrs ago.

So true, he was a 20 point guy in Toronto!
- Brukie

Cut him some slack, he's from LA. He's still wondering when that Gretzith guy, or whatever his name is, is coming back.

This is the same city whose local TV stations showed a Sacramento Kings logo when the Kings made the SCF in 2012.

Cut him some slack, he's from LA. He's still wondering when that Gretzith guy, or whatever his name is, is coming back.
- jmatchett383

Im from jersey. I think thats why we get along so well!

Im from jersey. I think thats why we get along so well!
- Leniwm1

Where in NJ?

Bottom line for me is that if a Kessel trade happens it is very likely whoever gets Kessel will win the trade.
- joegreif17

Not if they got PK (not sure if that is what Nashville wants though.

I also think they could win if they did something similar to the Neal trade (provided the plus isn't something like Spaling) say a Zucker+ trade.

Then again, I think Malkin will be better without Kessel. PP won't, but I'll make the trade-off. I wouldn't just dump him though, need value for Kessel.

Where in NJ?
- jmatchett383

Bergen county up north.

Not if they got PK (not sure if that is what Nashville wants though.

I also think they could win if they did something similar to the Neal trade (provided the plus isn't something like Spaling) say a Zucker+ trade.

Then again, I think Malkin will be better without Kessel. PP won't, but I'll make the trade-off. I wouldn't just dump him though, need value for Kessel.
- Tojo.

Kessel for AMac and a 5th

Bergen county up north.
- Leniwm1

I'm sorry to hear that. Now I know why you're a Kings fan.

I'm sorry to hear that. Now I know why you're a Kings fan.
- jmatchett383

Im not a Kings fan either! The assumptions are flying this morning!

Im not a Kings fan either! The assumptions are flying this morning!
- Leniwm1

So you're from Refineryville, now in Liberal Land, but you're a Penguins fan?

Sorry for my assumptions.

Why the hell would I watch the Pens?
- Leniwm1

That is exactly why your comment is absurd. Please do us all a favour and stay on your loser Kings site.

So you're from Refineryville, now in Liberal Land, but you're a Penguins fan?

Sorry for my assumptions.
- jmatchett383

Devils baby, Devils.

Devils baby, Devils.
- Leniwm1

You have my sympathy. I would have understood it if you were a Kings fan, though.

Not if they got PK (not sure if that is what Nashville wants though.

I also think they could win if they did something similar to the Neal trade (provided the plus isn't something like Spaling) say a Zucker+ trade.

Then again, I think Malkin will be better without Kessel. PP won't, but I'll make the trade-off. I wouldn't just dump him though, need value for Kessel.
- Tojo.

Not sure where the idea that Kessel and Malkin needed each other came from. Outside of the PP they didnt work out well. Pens options for a trade need 1. upgrade the top 4 D. 2. Get Malkin wings that get him the puck or get Kessel a C that gets him the puck.

If the Pens do make moves they need to go big. This is beyond tweaking the lines....Do an overhaul.

Not sure where the idea that Kessel and Malkin needed each other came from. Outside of the PP they didnt work out well. Pens options for a trade need 1. upgrade the top 4 D. 2. Get Malkin wings that get him the puck or get Kessel a C that gets him the puck.

If the Pens do make moves they need to go big. This is beyond tweaking the lines....Do an overhaul.
- sammy87

BLOW IT UP, TRADE EVERYONE!!!

Since we're on the subject of trading superstars, let me ask you:

If the Oilers offered to trade you McDavid with $1.9M retained (to make the cap an even swap) for Crosby, would you do it?

Since we're on the subject of trading superstars, let me ask you:

If the Oilers offered to trade you McDavid with $1.9M retained (to make the cap an even swap) for Crosby, would you do it?
- jmatchett383

Crosby would have to waive his full NMC. From a business perspective it would be hard not to....Crosby will be really good for maybe 3-4 years and then just be good. When your revenue stream comes from the playoffs MCD in theory sets you up for a long haul. I would think about it and investigate more....I dont have the time to follow the league much so would understand why the Oilers still suck with him.