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bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
I informed you that I made a mistake and corrected it. Something you are incapable of. That's not a narrative switch.

Still pretending Canada has never been involved with Azov. Accused me of making it up. A lie.

Still pretending Zelensky wouldn't have anything to do with Nazis even though he was financed and promoted by a Nazi supporter and himself continues to protect Azov. Accused me of making up his complicity. A lie.

You sure spend a lot of time white washing Nazi groups. Pages and pages of it now. Disgusting.

- boonerbuck


You are so gullible and simple minded to fall for old and tired propaganda. So sad.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
You are so gullible and simple minded to fall for old and tired propaganda. So sad.
- bloatedmosquito



That's the best you can do. Enough said.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 7:11 PM ET
That's the best you can do. Enough said.
- boonerbuck


I’ve already exposed you for a fraud so many times. Just add this time to that long list.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 7:29 PM ET
I’ve already exposed you for a fraud so many times. Just add this time to that long list.
- bloatedmosquito


Nowhere have you exposed anyone but yourself as a fraud. You've been left with nothing to twist but me using Zelenksy instead of the word government, which was acknowledged by me immediately after as a mistake and corrected,,, which I pointed out myself before it became the only tactic you could come up with to continue white washing neo nazi groups.

Now that is as pathetic as it gets and all on record here.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 7:42 PM ET
Ok lets clear this lie up once and for all about me being dishonest and changing my post and narrative as you accuse....

Here's me acknowledging my mistake in the very next post I make after the original comment on page 168, 30 minutes after...

Ok, wrong use of words... he's allowed this incorporation of Azov to continue. This was a mistake of my own. The Ukrainian government has incorporated Azov into their military.


I then correct the post I made which I acknowledge later as well. I never backtracked and tried to hide it. You lie again and again.

This is your main battle cry now? After all the lies you've been exposed for in this thread. Awesome stuff Bloated.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 7:43 PM ET
Nowhere have you exposed anyone but yourself as a fraud. You've been left with nothing to twist but me using Zelenksy instead of the word government, which was acknowledged by me immediately after as a mistake and corrected,,, which I pointed out myself before it became the only tactic you could come up with to continue white washing neo nazi groups.

Now that is as pathetic as it gets and all on record here.

- boonerbuck


Nope. You have only regurgitated outdated russian propaganda and exaggerated old tropes. It drives you crazy that Zelenskyy's (which you can't even spell correctly) is winning the information war.

Once again, you will be on the wrong side of history. Like so many times before. You'd think you would be a bit more cautious when spouting your hate.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 8:01 PM ET
More stuff from Jewish groups and journalists for you to deny and white wash Nazis. This is Israeli sourced.

Report: Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined

https://www.jta.org/2018/...soviet-countries-combined

“A striking exception in the trend of decrease in anti-Semitic incidents in Eastern Europe was Ukraine, where the number of recorded anti-Semitic attacks was doubled from last year and surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined,” the report said.

Hmmm... Seems you are the gullible one Bloated. All A Ukrainian official has to do is deny what's going on there, much like their holocaust denial and good enough for you.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 8:08 PM ET
Nope. You have only regurgitated outdated russian propaganda and exaggerated old tropes. It drives you crazy that Zelenskyy's (which you can't even spell correctly) is winning the information war.

Once again, you will be on the wrong side of history. Like so many times before. You'd think you would be a bit more cautious when spouting your hate.

- bloatedmosquito


Oh bullpoop. Yet another lie. This is just you denying all the material I have provided and none of it has been from Russian sponsored outlets.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 8:11 PM ET
Nope. You have only regurgitated outdated russian propaganda and exaggerated old tropes. It drives you crazy that Zelenskyy's (which you can't even spell correctly) is winning the information war.

Once again, you will be on the wrong side of history. Like so many times before. You'd think you would be a bit more cautious when spouting your hate.

- bloatedmosquito


Ya well even most of the media in the west is spelling his name wrong then. Once again, your argument comes back to a misused or misspelt word. A spelling Nazi. Big surprise there.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 8:26 PM ET
More stuff from Jewish groups and journalists for you to deny and white wash Nazis.

Report: Ukraine had more anti-Semitic incidents than all former Soviet countries combined

https://www.jta.org/2018/...soviet-countries-combined

“A striking exception in the trend of decrease in anti-Semitic incidents in Eastern Europe was Ukraine, where the number of recorded anti-Semitic attacks was doubled from last year and surpassed the tally for all the incidents reported throughout the entire region combined,” the report said.

Hmmm... Seems you are the gullible one Bloated. All A Ukrainian official has to do is deny what's going on there, much like their holocaust denial and good enough for you.

- boonerbuck


You are an idiot because you refuse to understand context.

The report you just posted says an estimated 130 incidents of anti-Semitism had been reported in Ukraine in 2017. There are 360,000 Jews in Ukraine (estimated).

So let's compare that to Canada. In 2020 there was a reported 2,610 recorded incidents of anti-Semitism, the third consecutive year in which the 2,000 plateau was exceeded. Which happens to be fifth record-setting year in a row for good ole Canada.

https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en...ional-summit-antisemitism

https://drive.google.com/...xMxvC0_12rsSn5xPgMpu/view

What say you now Booner? Is Canada a haven for Nazis? Do we as a country hate Jews? Is Justin Trudeau supporting Jewish hate crime?

Christ, I can pound you into the dirt and post Corey Hart videos at the same time because debating with you is as easy as it gets.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 8:42 PM ET
You are an idiot because you refuse to understand context.

The report you just posted says an estimated 130 incidents of anti-Semitism had been reported in Ukraine in 2017. There are 360,000 Jews in Ukraine (estimated).

So let's compare that to Canada. In 2020 there was a reported 2,610 recorded incidents of anti-Semitism, the third consecutive year in which the 2,000 plateau was exceeded. Which happens to be fifth record-setting year in a row for good ole Canada.

https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en...ional-summit-antisemitism

https://drive.google.com/...xMxvC0_12rsSn5xPgMpu/view

What say you now Booner? Is Canada a haven for Nazis? Do we as a country hate Jews? Is Justin Trudeau supporting Jewish hate crime?

Christ, I can pound you into the dirt and post Corey Hart videos at the same time because debating with you is as easy as it gets.

- bloatedmosquito


Cleary what and how things are reported in Canada are different. Here, a comment will get reported and become a statistic, or a swastika drawn on a public wall. In Ukraine and eastern Europe, an incident has to be substantial. Nazi symbols have been normalized in Ukraine... if those were a stat like here, I couldn't imagine how high the incident count would be. Ukraine denies the holocaust. Can't trust what they report anyways. You once again, buy into anti-Semitism deniers.

What should be noted is that the incidents are on the decrease in eastern Europe with the exception where it doubles in Ukraine.

And as I clearly showed you already, Canada has been caught meeting with Nazi militants and the documents went public so yes, Trudeau is supporting hate crime definitely. He's a hypocrite much like you.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 8:53 PM ET
Cleary what and how things are reported in Canada are different. Here, a comment will get reported and become a statistic, or a swastika drawn on a public wall. In Ukraine and eastern Europe, an incident has to be substantial. Nazi symbols have been normalized in Ukraine... if those were a stat like here, I couldn't imagine how high the incident count would be. Ukraine denies the holocaust. Can't trust what they report anyways. You once again, buy into anti-Semitism deniers.

What should be noted is that the incidents are on the decrease in eastern Europe with the exception where it doubles in Ukraine.

And as I clearly showed you already, Canada has been caught meeting with Nazi militants and the documents went public so yes, Trudeau is supporting hate crime definitely. He's a hypocrite much like you.

- boonerbuck


You completely made the bolded up. You have no idea that is the case.

This whole debate is about you distorting information to paint all Ukrainian's as Nazis or at minimum anti-Semite, which is factually untrue.

Like the info you posted from JTA it comes from inside Russia. Hmmm, can't trust those Ukrainians but Russian based reporting is rock solid. All I have to do is let you keep posting and you dig your own grave.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 9:11 PM ET
You completely made the bolded up. You have no idea that is the case.

This whole debate is about you distorting information to paint all Ukrainian's as Nazis or at minimum anti-Semite, which is factually untrue.

Like the info you posted from JTA it comes from inside Russia. Hmmm, can't trust those Ukrainians but Russian based reporting is rock solid. All I have to do is let you keep posting and you dig your own grave.

- bloatedmosquito





The actual report came from the Ministry for Diaspora Affairs under Education Minister Naftali Bennett in Israel... not JTA. You know who he is? He is now Israel's prime mister. Burned again.



Holy poop Bloated. In your defense of antisemitism, you are even calling the Israeli Prime minster a Putin Propagandist on the subject of anti-Semitism in Ukraine.

Keep patting yourself on the back for being so clever.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 9:15 PM ET


The actual report came from the Ministry for Diaspora Affairs under Education Minister Naftali Bennett in Israel... not JTA. You know who he is? He is now Israel's prime mister. Burned again.



Holy poop Bloated. In your defense of antisemitism, you are even calling the Israeli Prime minster a Putin Propagandist on the subject of anti-Semitism in Ukraine.

Keep patting yourself on the back for being so clever.


- boonerbuck


Sorry no. The article was written by Cnaan Liphshiz stationed in Moscow.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 9:19 PM ET
You completely made the bolded up. You have no idea that is the case.

This whole debate is about you distorting information to paint all Ukrainian's as Nazis or at minimum anti-Semite, which is factually untrue.

Like the info you posted from JTA it comes from inside Russia. Hmmm, can't trust those Ukrainians but Russian based reporting is rock solid. All I have to do is let you keep posting and you dig your own grave.

- bloatedmosquito


BOOM!!! wrong again. I did not make that up and in fact, using the link you provided, I'm scrolling the the incidents. You are completely wrong. Many of the incidents with photos showing them are in fact swastikas on walls, comments scribbled on walls, comments verbally made etc... over and over these are statistical incidents as the report claims.

https://drive.google.com/...xMxvC0_12rsSn5xPgMpu/view

Thank you for saving me the time of searching for the facts and showing you to be a denier once again. You are your own worse enemy.


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 9:21 PM ET
BOOM!!! wrong again. I did not make that up and in fact, using the link you provided, I'm scrolling the the incidents. You are completely wrong. Many of the incidents with photos showing them are in fact swastikas on walls, comments scribbled on walls, comments verbally made etc... over and over these are statistical incidents as the report claims.

https://drive.google.com/...xMxvC0_12rsSn5xPgMpu/view

Thank you for saving me the time of searching for the facts and showing you to be a denier once again. You are your own worse enemy.

- boonerbuck



Your message is Putin approved

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 9:22 PM ET
Sorry no. The article was written by Cnaan Liphshiz stationed in Moscow.
- bloatedmosquito


The report being discussed comes from Bennett's ministry in Israel. You are pretending the JTA made the report.


Also, if you can comprehend the article, Bennett's report doesn't give a number of incidents JTA says. JTA reports a number that we can assume was provided by Ukraine's ministries... which you trust, but I don't since Holocaust denying is a legislation there.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 9:30 PM ET
Your message is Putin approved


- bloatedmosquito


So now you are claiming B'nai Brith are Putin Propagandists? Your link from the OHRC is referencing the report from B'nai Brith. In their report they cover the incidents one by one and now that it destroys your accusation that I once again made up the claim that even a swastika on a wall or comment is a hate crime stat here, you have nothing to say but they are reporting Putin Propaganda... our hate crime stats here in Canada are Putin Propaganda???? Holy poop Bloated. You are losing it.


You are digging a ugly hole for yourself. You forget I am close with people who work with B'nai Brith and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre internationally as well as a collection of other groups who speak on public awareness of extremism. You keep trying to paint me as gullible and ignorant and it backfires over and over.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 9:35 PM ET
So now you are claiming B'nai Brith are Putin Propagandists? Your link from the OHRC is referencing the report from B'nai Brith. In their report they cover the incidents one by one and now that it destroys your accusation that I once again made up the claim that even a swastika on a wall or comment is a hate crime stat here, you have nothing to say but they are reporting Putin Propaganda... our hate crime stats here in Canada are Putin Propaganda???? Holy poop Bloated. You are losing it.


You are digging a ugly hole for yourself. You forget I am close with people who work with B'nai Brith and the Simon Wiesenthal Centre internationally as well as a collection of other groups who speak on public awareness of extremism. You keep trying to paint me as gullible and ignorant and it backfires over and over.

- boonerbuck


Because you may harass them over the internet, that doesn't make you close to them.

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 9:39 PM ET
Because you may harass them over the internet, that doesn't make you close to them.
- bloatedmosquito


Only one person here denying antisemitism and downplaying Nazis groups. Like I said, it's a ugly hole you are digging yourself.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 10:17 PM ET
Only one person here denying antisemitism and downplaying Nazis groups. Like I said, it's a ugly hole you are digging yourself.
- boonerbuck


Only one person promoting Putin propaganda. It works both ways.

Now I get it. It's all about "winning" for you. That's why you can't stop. So many losses in life, it's important that you win in here. Understood.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 10:23 PM ET
Only one person promoting Putin propaganda. It works both ways.

Now I get it. It's all about "winning" for you. That's why you can't stop. So many losses in life, it's important that you win in here. Understood.

- bloatedmosquito


Says the guy who's lost all his arguments and can't call it quits. Putin Propaganda Putin Propaganda.

I put up with it for pages before I turned your logic on you.


bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 6 @ 10:37 PM ET
Says the guy who's lost all his arguments and can't call it quits. Putin Propaganda Putin Propaganda.

I put up with it for pages before I turned your logic on you.


- boonerbuck


Pure fantasy. And you haven't proved a thing other than your gullible nature.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 6 @ 10:51 PM ET
You are so gullible and simple minded to fall for old and tired propaganda. So sad.
- bloatedmosquito


Man, if you can’t see that propaganda runs both ways I just can’t. I’m not saying you have to take everything that Boonsey writes as truth, but you seem pretty sure that it’s untruth and I think you’re dead wrong.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 6 @ 10:55 PM ET
True words....
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