Here's another crazy hypothetical "what if" ...

What if Detroit would trade the #6 pick to the Hawks in exchange for Boqvist?

Boqvist was taken #8 last season and had a phenomenal year playing on a top OHL team and scoring over 1ppg in the regular season (20g/60pts in 54 games) and playoffs (13pts in 11 games) - he is one year closer to the NHL and he's still only 18.

The Hawks would then select Byram at #3 and at #6 select one of the centers who would be there - Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.

OR

Package #3 and #6 to move up and take Kakko.

Thoughts?
- EbonyRaptor

I think if the Russian falls to #6, Detroit takes him,

[quote=EbonyRaptor]Here's another crazy hypothetical "what if" ...

What if Detroit would trade the #6 pick to the Hawks in exchange for Boqvist?

Boqvist was taken #8 last season and had a phenomenal year playing on a top OHL team and scoring over 1ppg in the regular season (20g/60pts in 54 games) and playoffs (13pts in 11 games) - he is one year closer to the NHL and he's still only 18.

The Hawks would then select Byram at #3 and at #6 select one of the centers who would be there - Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.



if we depend on how desperate they are for a high end D. somebody mentioned zadina and the 6th for the 3rd. kind of the same type of trade. It would depend how they view boquist. he is 10 months younger then both bouchard and hughes from his draft so that is allot. Bowen is a june bday. boquist Aug and bouchard and hughes are OCT. I think boquist is going to kill it this year so I would wait for 1 more season before you ever moved him.



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- kmw4631

I'm a big Boqvist fan but I think Byram's offense is about equal to Boqvist AND has a chance to be much better defensively - so it's an upgrade on the d-prospect side and an exchange of one of our d-prospects for a potential top-6 center.

Here's another crazy hypothetical "what if" ...

What if Detroit would trade the #6 pick to the Hawks in exchange for Boqvist?

Boqvist was taken #8 last season and had a phenomenal year playing on a top OHL team and scoring over 1ppg in the regular season (20g/60pts in 54 games) and playoffs (13pts in 11 games) - he is one year closer to the NHL and he's still only 18.

The Hawks would then select Byram at #3 and at #6 select one of the centers who would be there - Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.

OR

Package #3 and #6 to move up and take Kakko.

Thoughts?
- EbonyRaptor

Or just trade #3 and Boqvist to New Jersey (where his brother is drafted too) and take Kakko?

Not a single player left in the Stanley Cup playoffs makes more than an $8-million cap hit.
- walleyeb1

Yeah, Burns tops it at 8 mil. The Sharks have some cap troubles up ahead, especially when contracts have to be re-upped and Couture's 8x8 kicking in next season.

I would also prioritize compete level if most other strengths are equal or balance out. Go for the prospect who gives 100% every shift and in every zone. See that from Turcotte and even Krebs and Zegras. Cozens compete level has been questioned despite his reputation as a fast power forward.
- AEL_Fox

I read Cozens didn't have a strong U18 tournament butI haven't read anywhere that Cozens' compete level was being questioned? Where did you read that?

On Tankathon, Turcotte has jumped up a lot, it says that would be the hawks pick. Elbows must have edited that. Cole Caufield is still at the 12 range ... despite Darth's 100+ posts that says he is our guy.

Or just trade #3 and Boqvist to New Jersey (where his brother is drafted too) and take Kakko?
- MjulQvist

That's an awfully steep price for a team, Chicago, with limited depth, it's basically two first round picks for one first round pick. I'd hope Bowman isn't considering anything like that.

That's an awfully steep price for a team, Chicago, with limited depth, it's basically two first round picks for one first round pick. I'd hope Bowman isn't considering anything like that.
- paulr

Yeah, as much as I would love to get Kakko, I think I prefer my "option-A" where we lose Boqvist and gain Byram and one of Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.

Yeah, as much as I would love to get Kakko, I think I prefer my "option-A" where we lose Boqvist and gain Byram and one of Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.
- EbonyRaptor

You neglected Caufield!!!!!

Thank you for the information. Really looking forward to the next Finnish big time nhl scorer even if it is not with us.

If i was a betting type i would put all my chips on Hughes available at #3. And i am guessing that the nyr take Byrun most likely, and if not then one of Cozens, Podz or Hughes. I would take at #3 exactly in that order. Which is to say the dman over Cozens but only if Kelly is sold on him. I prefer Cozens but would gamble with this dman. If later on both Mitchell and Beaudin look promising early in their nhl csreer, at that time i trade one of them for a forward who might still be in junior or in other words not pro yet. You are getting too weak a return if you trade either Mitchell or Beaudin too soon.

The thougnt of Boqvist and Byram each in a top pair as puck movers is hard to pass up. That Byram will hit/check an opponent is a plus. A bigger plus than Beaudin and Mitchell whom i envision less effective if they do occassionally commit a body -to -body check. We have plenty of candidates to fill in around Boqvist and Byran. I am hopeful the strong skating strong compete Carlsson pairs with Boqvist (they have paired previously). Gilbert or Koekkoek on third pair because i want at least one dman on third pair whom will hit.

Dahlstrom is a good depth. Forsling can be traded. Murphy whom skates average at best, eventually will be traded.

This is the main ingredients on the defense. Gus traded at this draft or next trade deadline deadline. I only trade Gus now on condition that a goaltender Kelly prefers most, remains available..

One other note: darkhorse at #3 is Podz the russian.
- jhawk59

You would lose a lot of chips. Hughes has been the consensus #1 for a long time now, and hasn't really done anything that would change minds. KK has been a beast lately, so maybe he sways some people and him and Huges swap spaces, but the general consensus is that there is a gap between those 2 and the next 6-8 players.

Think back to McDavid's draft year. People were talking about Eichel being close, and after a few strong months there was speculation he could pass McDavid.......that was a fallacy.

The Russian is dropping in many peoples eyes, especially since it may be 2 years until he come over.

You neglected Caufield!!!!!
- paulr

Tweaking Darth.

Tweaking Darth.
- EbonyRaptor

You will all realize I was right when you hear Stan say "From the US NTDP the Chicago Blackhawks proudly select Cole Caufield".

I think if the Russian falls to #6, Detroit takes him,
- LAHawk

me too..

On Tankathon, Turcotte has jumped up a lot, it says that would be the hawks pick. Elbows must have edited that. Cole Caufield is still at the 12 range ... despite Darth's 100+ posts that says he is our guy.
- I Am The Breadman

I wish I had done a screen shot the players talkathon had in the NHL top ten, and the entire first round less than two months ago...it was joke, so bad I tried to find a contact number to aid their "respectability."

I wish I had done a screen shot the players talkathon had in the NHL top ten, and the entire first round less than two months ago...it was joke, so bad I tried to find a contact number to aid their "respectability."
- wiz1901

Hahahaha! I wish I would have seen it.

I think if the Russian falls to #6, Detroit takes him,
- LAHawk

I want to see dynamic Boqvist on Defense and.willing to select everyone favorite dman at #3 if he is still there. They are just too good at certain things and an upgrade over others we have. I want to see that more than the Finnish scorer.

Second choice scenario is Cozins..Not a bad idea you proppse. Just like & adding the dman or Cozens as a piece of puzzle we are sorely lacking. We already have scorers - two whom could get 50 especially once two special dmen are ready.

I read Cozens didn't have a strong U18 tournament butI haven't read anywhere that Cozens' compete level was being questioned? Where did you read that?
- paulr

Reports said he didj't work hard or get involved physically in the recent annual WJC Christnas.holiday tournament

Repoets said he didj't wotk hard or get involved physically in the recent annual WJC Christnas.holiday tournament
- jhawk59

My guess would be he wasn't involved physically, or otherwise, in the World Junior Championships at Christmas because he wasn't on the team.

On Tankathon, Turcotte has jumped up a lot, it says that would be the hawks pick. Elbows must have edited that. Cole Caufield is still at the 12 range ... despite Darth's 100+ posts that says he is our guy.
- I Am The Breadman

Clearly I need to try harder.

My guess would be he wasn't involved physically, or otherwise, in the World Junior Championships at Christmas because he wasn't on the team.
- paulr

That would do it .LOL .I think Cozens has the life experience that other don't at his young age that will propel him to greater success in his Pro career. He is the Dark horse from Whitehouse.

You raise good points but the expansion draft two summers hence has to be factored in. The Hawks have to expose a D man who is signed for 21/22, and has the requisite 3 years played, 70 games over the last two seasons prior to the draft, 40 games the last season before the draft.

Assuming Hawks protect Keith, Seabrook, and Joki, Murphy is the only existing eligible D meeting the above criteria. Instesd of losing him for nothing in the draft, yes trade him before that time and get something in return. However. Hawks still have to expose a D man, so a relatively worthless "veteran", think the 21/22 version of Roszival, has to be on the team. Of course getting Keith or Seabrook to waive there NMC would make them eligible.

Any of the kids that play next year and/or in 20/21year will be exempt from the draft due to the 3 year rule.
- boilermaker100

Good point about the impact of the expansion draft. I always forget about that element which adds another level of roster management that can make your head spin thinking of various scenarios.

I read Cozens didn't have a strong U18 tournament butI haven't read anywhere that Cozens' compete level was being questioned? Where did you read that?
- paulr

Honestly don't remember the exact articles but I recall reading it on two websites (neither of them was Draftsite). I also have read posts on these boards about Cozens having questionable compete level, or at least coasting in games but competes hard when he does apply himself. Of course, with any source, I do what I can to take it with a grain of salt so hopefully your observations are more spot on with him.

Good point about the impact of the expansion draft. I always forget about that element which adds another level of roster management that can make your head spin thinking of various scenarios.
- AEL_Fox

if Seabs does not waive his NMC for the EXP draft I will burn my Seab jersey.
they would never take him without a sweetner. if he was not going to waive I would buy him out.

https://www.barstoolsport...from-the-offseason-so-far

last line is interesting

Here's another crazy hypothetical "what if" ...

What if Detroit would trade the #6 pick to the Hawks in exchange for Boqvist?

Boqvist was taken #8 last season and had a phenomenal year playing on a top OHL team and scoring over 1ppg in the regular season (20g/60pts in 54 games) and playoffs (13pts in 11 games) - he is one year closer to the NHL and he's still only 18.

The Hawks would then select Byram at #3 and at #6 select one of the centers who would be there - Turcotte/Cozens/Dach/Zegras.

OR

Package #3 and #6 to move up and take Kakko.

Thoughts?
- EbonyRaptor

I would strongly consider the first proposal of Boqvist for Detroit's 6th overall pick. Like you said, draft Byram at #3 then one of the forwards at #6 given how bunched those prospects are after Hughes and Kakko.

Is that trade realistic in Detroit saying yes? Not sure but I would definitely pull the trigger if they are willing to as well.

Since there isn’t a whole lot to talk about substance-wise, I guess we can talk about rumors.

Barstool Chief (from barstool sports) apparently has a source with the Hawks hockey ops that said that if the draft was today, the team would be taking Byram.

Take it for what you will (a rumor). Not saying he’s a very credible source, but it’s still a fun convo starter.