Would any of you trade:

3rd overall 2019
2nd round pick 2020
Beaudin

For Kakko?
- RedRevenge

The premise is of course Kaako falls to #2. If he plays like this the whole tournament he’s #1

Maybe. However, there is no rush to move any of them.

Does this affect Mitchell's decision to sign in Chicago though is Byram is drafted? He's the only one not officially signed from the guys you listed above.
- Tyler Cameron

I'm only suggesting this because we would have 5 potential top 4 dmen, and no sure fire top 6 prospect. Kurashev, Barrett, Wise and Entwistle (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone) are our best forward prospects, but I don't know if any of them project to be top 6.

Change the 2nd to a 3rd and Beaudin to Mitchell.
- DarthKane

And then sign Mitchell as an unsigned college FA in 2 years.

I'm only suggesting this because we would have 5 potential top 4 dmen, and no sure fire top 6 prospect. Kurashev, Barrett, Wise and Entwistle (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone) are our best forward prospects, but I don't know if any of them project to be top 6.
- tvetter

We have Dinky and Strome

We are set 5/6 players in the top 6, Toews/Kane/Saad/Strome/Dinky...
Someone just needs to "mesh" well into the middle 6 and we're good.
What we actually need is defensemen who play solid, consistent D
Kinda like that guy we used to have, wore #4...

If the draft Byram, do they trade Joki, Boqvist, Beaudin or Mitchell for a top 6 prospect?
- tvetter

No need to make a move. Let them all develop at their own pace. Then when they are ready to contend or have earned an NHL roster spot and we have no room for them they will have more value (a lot more). you trade them or one of the other defenders.

Or maybe by that time the Seabs situation changes:
1) buyout (maybe in new CBA)
2) somehow work a deal with Seattle in the expansion draft
3) eat most of his contract and trade him
4) he gets better (remember Toews the previous 2 years and this year)

Possibly. But if he's had a good relationship with the Hawks so far I wouldn't expect that to change. On the flip side I could see Mitchell being dealt for a forward prospect.
- DarthKane

The receiving team would have to have assurances they would sign him - I’m not sure the return would be much, kinda like with Hayes and Vesey.

The receiving team would have to have assurances they would sign him - I’m not sure the return would be much, kinda like with Hayes and Vesey.
- StLBravesFan

Mitchell wouldn't be a UFA until the summer of 2021, so the team would have more time to sign him. But I get your point.

I'm only suggesting this because we would have 5 potential top 4 dmen, and no sure fire top 6 prospect. Kurashev, Barrett, Wise and Entwistle (I'm sure I'm forgetting someone) are our best forward prospects, but I don't know if any of them project to be top 6.
- tvetter

Oh I'm with you. I just don't think it will be rushed. However, when the time comes to make a deal, it would make sense to deal from strength.

Oh I'm with you. I just don't think it will be rushed. However, when the time comes to make a deal, it would make sense to deal from strength.
- Tyler Cameron

Murphy has 3 years left, Keith 4 and Seabrook 5.

I know that seems like a long time but d-men take longer to develop and that's not necessarily measured by when they start in the NHL full time. In the next 3-5 years the team could gradually introduce Jokiharju, Beaudin, Boqvist, Byram and Mitchell to the NHL level. Maybe 1-2 at a time depending on their development.

3 years isn't that far away, I like Murphy but if the young guys are ready to go he's the first to be replaced. Maybe at that time Keith and Seabrook are the bottom pairing or Seabrook is the #7.

Would any of you trade:

3rd overall 2019
2nd round pick 2020
Beaudin

For Kakko?
- RedRevenge

Absolutely !! This is the best power forward prospect in years, but I don't think either of the 2 teams ahead of us would trade away from Kakko. He's that good and a sure fire stud for the future.

I think the Rangers would be salivating to get Kakko just as much if not more than the Hawks. Then they sign Panarin as a free agent.
- LAHawk

You are spot-on. This will happen for the Rangers.

You are spot-on. This will happen for the Rangers.
- Hawkytalk

Yeah, if the 'Hawks want Kakko, they are going to have to have the #1 choice.

Murphy has 3 years left, Keith 4 and Seabrook 5.

I know that seems like a long time but d-men take longer to develop and that's not necessarily measured by when they start in the NHL full time. In the next 3-5 years the team could gradually introduce Jokiharju, Beaudin, Boqvist, Byram and Mitchell to the NHL level. Maybe 1-2 at a time depending on their development.

3 years isn't that far away, I like Murphy but if the young guys are ready to go he's the first to be replaced. Maybe at that time Keith and Seabrook are the bottom pairing or Seabrook is the #7.
- DarthKane

Murphy may go in the expansion draft in 2 summers. Assuming 4 & 7 don't waive their NMC's Hawks have to choose to protect either Murphy or Joki, assuming he plays the minimum required 70/40 (?) games the next two years and is still around. If the Hawks obtain another vet D in the next year or two who would be signed for 21/22, he also would be eligible for the draft and would have to be exposed or protected.

jhawk - I didn't refuse, I just didn't see your question. I apologize.

My thoughts on Koekkoek?

I didn't say I don't like him, I did believe he was going to be the odd man out though. I was wrong.

I thought this because of a couple reasons.

* His usage by Colliton - he was used sparingly and was moved into a rotation with Forsling and Dahlstrom near the end of the year.

* Stan's history - I was trying to read the tea leaves as well as use Bowman's trends to determine if Koekkoek would be retained. Bowman has invested a lot into Forsling (looked great at the time by acquiring him for Clendening) and Dahlstrom was a player he drafted.

* The crowded blueline - there's a lot of them back there and none of those 3 showed enough to really stay but new at least 1-2 of them would be. It just looked like Slater was the odd man out in my eyes.

I looked at the acquisition along the same line as Anthony Duclair who wasn't resigned after Stan brought him in for Richard Panik.

At times, I've really liked Koekkoek's game, as you said, his willingness to lay the body was a nice change of pace.

However, Stan did this 2 year's ago when he re-upped the exact same defencemen after everyone knew that this was an area that needed to be upgraded.

I believe changes will be made this year to bring in at least 1 top 4-5 D and that means something has to give on the backend with the guys under contract.
- Tyler Cameron

I think that the Hawks will reup Forsling too and trade 2 of 3 of him, 4K and Dahlstrom. Way back when I suggested one of them and a pick to VGK to give them a cheap D back for Eakin and McNabb/Miller. Maybe the other to TB or Toronto as part of a package for one of their forwards to help with their cap problem and to give them some defense depth.

The premise is of course Kaako falls to #2. If he plays like this the whole tournament he’s #1
- gifman

Yeah would have to be a draft day trade if Kakko isn’t taken 1st. But I really don’t think either of the top three picks will be traded.

Yeah would have to be a draft day trade if Kakko isn’t taken 1st. But I really don’t think either of the top three picks will be traded.
- walleyeb1

If the Hawks really want Kakko, they definitely have the assets to make a hockey trade for him. I think trading one of our D prospects + a second and 3rd overall is plenty. It just comes down to if the Hawks thing Kakko is worth it. If he’s like Hossa, you could see a resurgence of the top line of 2015 (Kakko over Hossa).

I bet they will be conservative and draft Bryam. If he’s projected to be a #1 then we could be seeing him, Boqvist, and Joki as the next Keith, Seabrook, and Hammer.

This. The forward group could get even more crowded if they sign a Tanev (or Tanev type) for the 4th line (I kind of like Caggiula, Kampf, Tanev). Not to mention the possibility of drafting a forward with the #3 pick. They would at least have to give that player a look in camp. The real question is does Stan do something more major like going after a young veteran top 6 forward, top 4 Dman or 3C. Or does he keep most of his cap space for TDL shopping. There are a ton of good possibilities.
- -Doh-

For the salary cap guys here, I think Entwhistle, Baudin, and Boqvist's ELCs slide one year because they did not get into an NHL game this season.

https://www.capfriendly.com/slides

Yeah, if the 'Hawks want Kakko, they are going to have to have the #1 choice.
- 35Tony0

It's Kakko Kakko, Kakko all day, all of the time. What's happened to Hughes - has he been relegated to the scrap heap reserved for tiny forwards?

It's Kakko Kakko, Kakko all day, all of the time. What's happened to Hughes - has he been relegated to the scrap heap reserved for tiny forwards?
- RickJ

I've been leaning Kakko over Hughes since the World Jrs, but all the experts still say Hughes goes #1. I was really hoping Chicago would end up with the 2nd pick, so Bowman didn't have to make a decision.

I've been leaning Kakko over Hughes since the World Jrs, but all the experts still say Hughes goes #1. I was really hoping Chicago would end up with the 2nd pick, so Bowman didn't have to make a decision.
- tvetter

Yea...... oh well.

Dylan Cozens is going to be a stud .... and a Blackhawk.

https://lastwordonhockey....n-cozens-scouting-report/

Blackhawks should try to move up to second and get either one of the two impact players. When do you get a chance to do that? It's only one spot, f it costs them two second rounders or even a little more then I think it's worth it.

Blackhawks should try to move up to second and get either one of the two impact players. When do you get a chance to do that? It's only one spot, f it costs them two second rounders or even a little more then I think it's worth it.
- Hawkster

Just playing devils advocate , it would probably cost Two -#2s and next years #1 and ____________ to move up one spot.


Dont count the Rangers out of doing something dumb. Russian Vasily Podkolzin to go along with their singing of Panarin

If the Hawks really want Kakko, they definitely have the assets to make a hockey trade for him. I think trading one of our D prospects + a second and 3rd overall is plenty. It just comes down to if the Hawks thing Kakko is worth it. If he’s like Hossa, you could see a resurgence of the top line of 2015 (Kakko over Hossa).

I bet they will be conservative and draft Bryam. If he’s projected to be a #1 then we could be seeing him, Boqvist, and Joki as the next Keith, Seabrook, and Hammer.
- RedRevenge

The 3rd overall + 2nd rounder + D prospect may not be enough for Kakko, IMO. I think that trade package may be sufficient to get both of either the Avs pair of 1st rounders or the Kings pair.

I’m with you, though, that the Hawks keep their pick and select either Byram, Turcotte, or Cozens. Possibly Krebs or Zegras. Don’t see them taking Dach or Caufield.

Generally my preference is to keep the 3rd overall and try obtaining another 1st rounder via trade of Gustafsson.

I've been on the Kakko bandwagon since day 1. Too bad the hawks are only draft at #3.
- RedRevenge

You see, some think the Blackhawks won the lottery, but this proves they lost!

You see, some think the Blackhawks won the lottery, but this proves they lost!
- powerenforcer

Damn Bettman!