Question (not saying the Hawks should even consider trading #3) if Byram is available at #3, and Toronto would want him, (I know they have supposedly stud defenseman on the Marlies), what would you want from Toronto?
- LAHawk

The #3 pick has the potential to be either a #1 d-man or a #1 center - I don't trade the #3 pick unless the Hawks get one of those in return. Therefore I wouldn't trade the pick unless it's for Colorado's #4 or LA's #5 and the incentive to do the trade down would have to be good enough to make it worth while for the Hawks.

Question (not saying the Hawks should even consider trading #3) if Byram is available at #3, and Toronto would want him, (I know they have supposedly stud defenseman on the Marlies), what would you want from Toronto?
- LAHawk

Marner... jk I don't think that would be enough - we lose the value of the 3 years of cheap, ELC play for a potential future star

Would we trade the #3 to Tampa for Brayden Point and Sergachev/Cernak?

Marner... jk I don't think that would be enough - we lose the value of the 3 years of cheap, ELC play for a potential future star

Would we trade the #3 to Tampa for Brayden Point and Sergachev/Cernak?
- Slofire94

That is more intriguing.

The #3 pick has the potential to be either a #1 d-man or a #1 center - I don't trade the #3 pick unless the Hawks get one of those in return. Therefore I wouldn't trade the pick unless it's for Colorado's #4 or LA's #5 and the incentive to do the trade down would have to be good enough to make it worth while for the Hawks.
- EbonyRaptor

Too Tampa:
#3 pick
Forsling
Anisimov

To Chi:
Brayden Point
Sergechev OR Cernak (or another stud d-man prospect)
2019 1st round

Question (not saying the Hawks should even consider trading #3) if Byram is available at #3, and Toronto would want him, (I know they have supposedly stud defenseman on the Marlies), what would you want from Toronto?
- LAHawk

The only way I trade #3 is for another top 10 pick plus a top 6 forward or top 4 dman.

Between Dahlstrom, Koekkoek and Forsling only one should return and be in the 7D spot. I don't really have a preference on which one it is. Maybe Dahlstrom and Forsling (if re-signed) start the season in Rockford as I think they are still waiver exempt.

Forsling is an interesting situation. He hasn't done enough to be a full time NHLer but he's still young and tough to give up on.
- DarthKane

I could be wrong, but I think this 2018-2019 season will count at the final waiver exempt season for both Forsling and Dahlstrom. Forsling turned 20 the first year of his pro career and gets 3 years or 160 games and Dahlstrom was 21, so he was exempt for 3 years or 80 games. It definitely can change the plans for an individual players when Stan can't safely tuck them away in the AHL without risk of losing an asset for nothing and might force him into including one more more player in a deal.

I expect Forsling will be re-signed as well. That being said, signing Koekkoek, Forsling and Dahlstrom doesn't mean they will start in Chicago next season or even be with the organization. Worst case scenario with these guys is that they are lost of waivers or traded for minimal return. Not a real loss either way.
- DarthKane

My guess is Forsling will be resigned with Dahlstrom and Koekkoek who are already re-upped but one will be traded, one will be the 7th man on the Hawks blueline, and one will start in Rockford.

If I had to wager today, Forsling is traded. And if Bowman falls short this summer with shoring up the blueline, then it's plausible that both Dahlstrom and Koekkoek are on the Hawks roster.

The value of the #3 pick is not just the skill/prospect but the cost control

Trading it for players during large money doesnt help the Hawks, it helps the other team

If TB needs salary relief for Point (or whoever), why would anyone offer the #3 pick???

What team offered the Hawks a lottery pick when they had to purge after winning each of the 3 cups?

I noticed on capfriendly that Koekkoek's contract is only for 1 year, while Dahlsstrom's recent signing was for 2 years. They will both be arbitration eligible RFA's at the end of their contracts. Maybe this is common to sign a player to the point when he is arbitration eligible so he can get a possibly bigger pay day sooner?

The value of the #3 pick is not just the skill/prospect but the cost control

Trading it for players during large money doesnt help the Hawks, it helps the other team

If TB needs salary relief for Point (or whoever), why would anyone offer the #3 pick???

What team offered the Hawks a lottery pick when they had to purge after winning each of the 3 cups?
- PatShart

Well everyone is saying the Hawks have so many years to take advantage of the Toews/Kane window, if you could trade #3 (who might not even be in the NHL in a year or 2) for young players already established (like Point/Sergechev), you are taking advantage of that window.

Well everyone is saying the Hawks have so many years to take advantage of the Toews/Kane window, if you could trade #3 (who might not even be in the NHL in a year or 2) for young players already established (like Point/Sergechev), you are taking advantage of that window.
- LAHawk

TB would be the ones taking advantage. If it was the #12 pick, I could understand but not the 3

I'd offer TB the 1st round in 2020 for those guys, but not this year.

They can have the #3 for Kucherov or Hedman...that'll free up their cap space

The value of the #3 pick is not just the skill/prospect but the cost control

Trading it for players during large money doesnt help the Hawks, it helps the other team

If TB needs salary relief for Point (or whoever), why would anyone offer the #3 pick???

What team offered the Hawks a lottery pick when they had to purge after winning each of the 3 cups?
- PatShart

Not to mention it is so stupid of an idea for tampa they would never do it. They can trade away bad contracts with sweeteners like the hawks did without giving away their best young players. The whole idea is moronic.

Maybe Nalimov finally signs and crosses over?
- AEL_Fox

What is the update on ole Ivan? We hearing anything?

The only trade for the #3 pick I’d consider is:

Blackhawks #3 for the Avalanche’s #4 and #16 or the Kings #5 and #22. But, I can’t think of a reason why either of those teams would want to do that.

https://mayorsmanor.com/2...wen-byram-whl-defenseman/

https://www.prohockeyrumo...te-podkolzin-broberg.html

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...raft-starting-take-shape/

they mention that they are starting to hear there is 2nd tier with Bowen and Turcotte. which is nice to hear. I'm fine with one of those 2.

What is the update on ole Ivan? We hearing anything?
- resqmed99

The last I read about Nalimov's plans was last summer when he said one more year in the KHL then sign with the Blackhawks. He's bounced around the KHL quite a bit (5 teams in just as many years) so stability within an organization in the best league in the world may help his development.

Nalimov is 25 so younger than Forsberg (26) and a year older than Delia, Lankinen, and Tomkins (24). Marchand is 23 while Gravel is only 19.

DK, just curious as to why you would go Caufield over Cozens or Turcotte.
- tvetter

The real question is why wouldn't Stan draft Caufield over Cozens or Turcotte.

Interesting to note that in Elliotte Friedman’s 31 Thoughts from yesterday, he is hearing from a few teams he’s spoken with that Byram and Turcotte are separating themselves at 3 and 4, though another hockey pundit is also hearing that Zegras is in that group as well, while Cozens is 6th.

I think Byram and Turcotte is exactly who it comes down to for the Hawks, and luckily enough for them, both players grew up massive Hawks fans as well.

I just don’t see how any other player is taken (Cozens, Dach, etc, just don’t seem to be Stan/Kelley picks).

https://mayorsmanor.com/2019/05/2019-nhl-draft-preview-bowen-byram-whl-defenseman/

https://www.prohockeyrumo...te-podkolzin-broberg.html

https://www.sportsnet.ca/...raft-starting-take-shape/

they mention that they are starting to hear there is 2nd tier with Bowen and Turcotte. which is nice to hear. I'm fine with one of those 2.
- kmw4631

I just saw that you posted that 31 Thoughts link before I saw it, so you beat me to the punch.

Would be happy with either pick for the Hawks, but would be happier with Byram.

Too Tampa:
#3 pick
Forsling
Anisimov

To Chi:
Brayden Point
Sergechev OR Cernak (or another stud d-man prospect)
2019 1st round
- Slofire94

Totally lopsided trade in favor of Chicago.

After watching the 3rd period and OT of the USA-Finland game today - I'm becoming more convinced NJ will take Kakko at #1. WOW is Kakko good. On one play he had Suter draped all over him and he protected the puck, skated behind the net and made a scoring play out of nothing and there was nothing Suter or the couple other USA players in the neighborhood could do about it. His strength reminds me of Hossa and he is going to be a helluva player in the NHL next season.

After watching the 3rd period and OT of the USA-Finland game today - I'm becoming more convinced NJ will take Kakko at #1. WOW is Kakko good. On one play he had Suter draped all over him and he protected the puck, skated behind the net and made a scoring play out of nothing and there was nothing Suter or the couple other USA players in the neighborhood could do about it. His strength reminds me of Hossa and he is going to be a helluva player in the NHL next season.
- EbonyRaptor

Yes. It´s amazing how strong 18 year old kid can be with puck. He reminds me of Peter Forsberg a lot.

Interesting to note that in Elliotte Friedman’s 31 Thoughts from yesterday, he is hearing from a few teams he’s spoken with that Byram and Turcotte are separating themselves at 3 and 4, though another hockey pundit is also hearing that Zegras is in that group as well, while Cozens is 6th.

I think Byram and Turcotte is exactly who it comes down to for the Hawks, and luckily enough for them, both players grew up massive Hawks fans as well.

I just don’t see how any other player is taken (Cozens, Dach, etc, just don’t seem to be Stan/Kelley picks).
- TommyHawk

Although Caufield is the obvious choice, I think Stan drafts Byram at #3 then takes a centre at #43 (Jamieson Rees, John Beecher, Adam Beckman).

Interesting to note that in Elliotte Friedman’s 31 Thoughts from yesterday, he is hearing from a few teams he’s spoken with that Byram and Turcotte are separating themselves at 3 and 4, though another hockey pundit is also hearing that Zegras is in that group as well, while Cozens is 6th.

I think Byram and Turcotte is exactly who it comes down to for the Hawks, and luckily enough for them, both players grew up massive Hawks fans as well.

I just don’t see how any other player is taken (Cozens, Dach, etc, just don’t seem to be Stan/Kelley picks).
- TommyHawk

Ok then, the question is what have they done in the last couple weeks that separated themselves from the rest of the top ten.

After watching the 3rd period and OT of the USA-Finland game today - I'm becoming more convinced NJ will take Kakko at #1. WOW is Kakko good. On one play he had Suter draped all over him and he protected the puck, skated behind the net and made a scoring play out of nothing and there was nothing Suter or the couple other USA players in the neighborhood could do about it. His strength reminds me of Hossa and he is going to be a helluva player in the NHL next season.
- EbonyRaptor

I've been on the Kakko bandwagon since day 1. Too bad the hawks are only draft at #3.