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RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.27.2018

May 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Year after year the Penguins mortgage the future by trading late first round picks.

Also Ryan Wilson: This late round pick isn’t that great and should be traded.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

May 10 @ 1:47 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Year after year the Penguins mortgage the future by trading late first round picks.

Also Ryan Wilson: This late round pick isn’t that great and should be traded.

- RuutuRock’emLikeU2#37


One of the biggest chuckles I have ever had after reading something on this site was when another person asked you over on one of Ek's main blogs how it felt to have the absolute worst username on HB.

Hahahah

Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 1:52 PM ET
Https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/1161161[url]
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 10 @ 1:58 PM ET
Https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1161161
- Rinosaur[url]

Not enough for Petts is my guess. If Oleksiak is worth $2+ then why isn’t Petts? If he signs for $1MM he should fire his agent. Also, pass on Ryan. I hope he rebounds somewhere, just not here
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 1:59 PM ET
Is it completely insane to consider moving Horn and JJ to OTT for Ryan
(Plus a few picks) to be 3rd RW?

- Rinosaur

I would try this for sure. Guts lol

Bobby Ryan
Loui Eriksson
James Neal

All players in need of a change of scenery.
nateca44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 01.16.2008

May 10 @ 2:03 PM ET
Https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1161161
- Rinosaur[url]


I really dont see Matta here or Johnson next year. I also think Rutherford was mentioning Hornquist as well. I think they're all pieces to get what fits the Pens more.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 2:06 PM ET
Not enough for Petts is my guess. If Oleksiak is worth $2+ then why isn’t Petts? If he signs for $1MM he should fire his agent. Also, pass on Ryan. I hope he rebounds somewhere, just not here
- WSCTeton17


Oleksiak puts up more points.

If Hornqvist doesn’t rebound from last year, there really isn’t much difference with Ryan here for $1M more, and we get JJ out.

It was just a thought though.

EDIT: Bobby Ryan at full price is bad, but OTT retaining $1M and taking back JJ saves them money, makes a slight lateral move from Horn to Ryan. I mean, Ryan put up 42 points on a terrible OTT team.

Playing 3rd line RW, it isn’t inconceivable that he puts up 45 to 50 points on the Pens.
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

May 10 @ 2:20 PM ET
Trade it for reaves.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 2:38 PM ET
Https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/1161161
- Rinosaur[url]


You legit, purposely acquired Bobby Ryan and Luke Glendenig. That’s some GMJR level GMing there bud. I don’t want anything to do with that roster lol

Edit: before I pass total judgment... what style of hockey is this team playing? What system?
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 10 @ 2:57 PM ET
So if a person you didn't like, or at least weren't friendly with, came up to you and licked your face, you'd find it funny? I doubt that.
- jmatchett383

If I saw someone I didn’t like lick someone else’s face, yeah I’d find it funny. Marchand didn’t kick Sammy’s face.

And to be fair, I hate Marchand too, I just think it’s weird that the face lick thing was the bridge too far and not the knee to knees.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 3:11 PM ET
If I saw someone I didn’t like lick someone else’s face, yeah I’d find it funny. Marchand didn’t kick Sammy’s face.

And to be fair, I hate Marchand too, I just think it’s weird that the face lick thing was the bridge too far and not the knee to knees.

- Victoro311


I asked if you thought it would be funny if they licked your face, not someone else's.

If someone I didn't like licked my face, my instinctive reaction would be to punch them in the mouth, not smile and laugh.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 10 @ 3:12 PM ET
I asked if you thought it would be funny if they licked your face, not someone else's.
- jmatchett383

No but I don’t see the point of asking me that. Sammy’s a spectator, he’s not the one getting his face licked.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 3:13 PM ET
No but I don’t see the point of asking me that. Sammy’s a spectator, he’s not the one getting his face licked.
- Victoro311


So it's funny if it happens to someone else, but not if it happens to you. Just want to clarify.

And I agree that he's done a lot worse, but it was still (frank)ed up (to me).
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:15 PM ET
So it's funny if it happens to someone else, but not if it happens to you. Just want to clarify.

And I agree that he's done a lot worse, but it was still (frank)ed up (to me).

- jmatchett383


Hell yes.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 10 @ 3:21 PM ET
To Chi: Hornqvist and Jarry
To Pit: Anisimov

Buy out JJ if possible.

Sign the following:
Dzingel to 4 years at 4.5
Blueger to 2 years at $800K
Pettersson to 3 years at $1M
Pominville to 1 year at $1m

Jake-Sid-Bjugstad
Dzingel-Geno-Phil
McCann-Anisimov-Rust
Simon-Bloog-Pominville

Dumo-Tanger
Maatta-Schultz
Pettersson-Gudbranson

- Rinosaur


Pretty much every writer in Pitt claims Kessel is gone. I wouldn't plan on him being on the roster.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 3:34 PM ET
You legit, purposely acquired Bobby Ryan and Luke Glendenig. That’s some GMJR level GMing there bud. I don’t want anything to do with that roster lol

Edit: before I pass total judgment... what style of hockey is this team playing? What system?

- j.boyd919


Glendening IMO brings a similar game to Rust, but obviously a lesser player for half the price, a little more snarl and upgrades our 4th line.

Ryan has decent speed and while he may not bring the net front presence Horn has, he can play physical a probably notch 45ish points for $1M more than Horn, but we get JJ off the roster.

Anisimov brings a stable responsible presence as a 3C; he’s got a solid all around game while bumping Bjugstad to the 1st.

Overall the Pens add a little speed, a little grit, bolster the top six and 3C position, fresh faces and get JJ out.

EDIT: actually with the retention, Ryan only makes $500K more than Horn.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 3:38 PM ET
Pretty much every writer in Pitt claims Kessel is gone. I wouldn't plan on him being on the roster.
- sammy87


Well poop. Those guys are never wrong.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:39 PM ET
Glendening IMO brings a similar game to Rust, but obviously a lesser player for half the price, a little more snarl and upgrades our 4th line.

Ryan has decent speed and while he may not bring the net front presence Horn has, he can play physical a probably notch 45ish points for $1M more than Horn, but we get JJ off the roster.

Anisimov brings a stable responsible presence as a 3C; he’s got a solid all around game while bumping Bjugstad to the 1st.

Overall the Pens add a little speed, a little grit, bolster the top six and 3C position, fresh faces and get JJ out.

- Rinosaur


I completely disagree with your entire analysis.

Glendenig is nothing like Rust. He’s far worse and much slower.

Bobby Ryan is even slower than Hornqvist and skates like he’s got cement in his Tuuks.

Anisimov is okay and I’m okay with acquiring him although I don’t think he’s fantastic or even necessary with Bjugstad as 3C. And I’m fine with moving Horny for him as I think Horny is meh.

I think overall you just made the Pens forward group far slower than they were and the only positives were removing JJ and adding Anisimov but I don’t think this roster is better or worse than last years. I think it’s essentially a wash with the anchors you’ve acquired on forward.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 10 @ 3:39 PM ET
So it's funny if it happens to someone else, but not if it happens to you. Just want to clarify.

And I agree that he's done a lot worse, but it was still (frank)ed up (to me).

- jmatchett383

Ummm... yes? Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
I completely disagree with your entire analysis.

Glendenig is nothing like Rust. He’s far worse and much slower.

Bobby Ryan is even slower than Hornqvist and skates like he’s got cement in his Tuuks.

Anisimov is okay and I’m okay with acquiring him although I don’t think he’s fantastic or even necessary with Bjugstad as 3C.

I think overall you just made the Pens forward group far slower than they were and the only positives were removing JJ and adding Anisimov but I don’t think this roster is better or worse than last years. I think it’s essentially a wash with the anchors you’ve acquired on forward.

- j.boyd919


Fair enough. Just trying to get creative to get JJ out.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 3:40 PM ET
Ummm... yes? Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
- Victoro311


Gotcha was an awesome movie
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:43 PM ET
Fair enough. Just trying to get creative to get JJ out.
- Rinosaur


Oh you got creative alright. I think there were some positives. I just don’t agree with Glendenig and Ryan. I think it’s a huge step
Backwards if you’re trying to build a speed based team. If the team system shifted to a carry the puck up by group ala Johnston’s first season in PIT, it might work? But I think the Pens would need even more turnover to make a system like that work.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:43 PM ET
Gotcha was an awesome movie
- Rinosaur


Was that the It tag movie with all the adults playing tag? That poop was funny.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 10 @ 3:46 PM ET
Was that the It tag movie with all the adults playing tag? That poop was funny.
- j.boyd919

That movie was literally called “Tag” and was great.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 3:47 PM ET
Ummm... yes? Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
- Victoro311


Do you follow “kidsgettinghurt” on Instagram? By far one of my favorite accounts ever. It’s (frank)ing hysterical.
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