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123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

May 10 @ 6:53 AM ET
that's some awful buyout, 1.9 mil cap hit every year until 2027
- jimbro83



I would take that if I were Calgary it would save them 3.8 million a year.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 10 @ 6:55 AM ET
Hornqvist is playing with Pettersson in the worlds, he is already the type of player Benning loves, Benning will salivate at the opportunity to acquire Hornqvist.

I would look to dump Johnsson on them with Hornqvist. Probably need to take back Eriksson who has been terrible but we could probably get Virtanen who I think is a Dupuis type player with more size, speed and a better shot. And Erikssons contract is up after this season im pretty sure.

Horny + JJ for Eriksson + Virtanen

Then deal our 1st to Calgary for James Neal or Send them Rust and a pick if they'll do that. Let Malkin and Neal do their thing and let Eriksson play the defensive stalwart on that line.

Do we have the cap to do this? I dunno. But check these lines!

Guentzel Crosby Virtanen
Neal Malkin Eriksson
McCann Bjucksktad Kessel
Simon Blugrars Rust


- stackthepads


Hornquist to Vancouver would be interesting. Never thought of that as a fit but they do love their Sweedes!

I'm not really into trading Hornquist but getting rid of JJ, taking a shot Erikson rebounding and a solid young forward would be worth it.

You completely lost me on the Neal thing though. It would look more like Rust for Neal and Calgary giving up a 1st. Also don't think the Pens would have any interest in bringing Neal back.
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 10 @ 7:07 AM ET
Bruins D interferes constantly. Every dump in. It’s blatant too
- Thorny87


That seems to be happening more and more as the playoffs progress... maybe a subject of discussion during the off-season. Sure seems like interference to me.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 10 @ 7:08 AM ET
I think Neal gets bought out. Also I get the Neal love, but he is not the solution to the undisciplined, low energy game that the Pens played this season.
- 123Kid


I don't think he gets bought out and agree with your assessment but if he does, I could see a one year deal with the Pens to build his stock back up.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

May 10 @ 7:13 AM ET
I am 50-50 on trading the first pick. I think Penguins should keep all our star players, but revamp the Defense and try to sign some players to upgrade this group. I am hoping the rumors of Penguins trying to trade for Trouba and Subban are true. I think having another defensive talent will help. With that being said I hope they get rid of JJ and Gudbranson to free up cap space (Maatta or Schultz would probably be traded as well if Subban and/or Trouba were coming to Pens). A good defenseman like Trouba I would package our 1st round pick for.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 9:05 AM ET
I am 50-50 on trading the first pick. I think Penguins should keep all our star players, but revamp the Defense and try to sign some players to upgrade this group. I am hoping the rumors of Penguins trying to trade for Trouba and Subban are true. I think having another defensive talent will help. With that being said I hope they get rid of JJ and Gudbranson to free up cap space (Maatta or Schultz would probably be traded as well if Subban and/or Trouba were coming to Pens). A good defenseman like Trouba I would package our 1st round pick for.
- 123Kid

Absolutely. Trouba is worth giving up the pick.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 9:06 AM ET
Hornquist to Vancouver would be interesting. Never thought of that as a fit but they do love their Sweedes!

I'm not really into trading Hornquist but getting rid of JJ, taking a shot Erikson rebounding and a solid young forward would be worth it.

You completely lost me on the Neal thing though. It would look more like Rust for Neal and Calgary giving up a 1st. Also don't think the Pens would have any interest in bringing Neal back.

- MacPatty

I like the idea of Hörnqvist/J.Johnson being packed together for Eriksson/Virtanen but I doubt it they give up on Virtanen so early.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 9:11 AM ET
Until they get a bad call against...

Everything in me wants to hate the Bruins but I love Bergeron and Chara.

For me its Blues > Bruins > Canes > Sharks.

- MacPatty

How can you like the F'n Bruins? I want to see San Jose or St.Louis champions this year. They have ZERO cups.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 9:16 AM ET
Why would the kings do this for malkin?

Kings aren’t going anywhere for a couple years.

- KINGS67


Because I was totally serious about trading Malkin to move up 1 spot in the draft.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 9:18 AM ET
How can you like the F'n Bruins? I want to see San Jose or St.Louis champions this year. They have ZERO cups.
- Barnaby36


San Jose all day. Get one for Jumbo.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 10 @ 9:24 AM ET
I am 50-50 on trading the first pick. I think Penguins should keep all our star players, but revamp the Defense and try to sign some players to upgrade this group. I am hoping the rumors of Penguins trying to trade for Trouba and Subban are true. I think having another defensive talent will help. With that being said I hope they get rid of JJ and Gudbranson to free up cap space (Maatta or Schultz would probably be traded as well if Subban and/or Trouba were coming to Pens). A good defenseman like Trouba I would package our 1st round pick for.
- 123Kid


Im not sure how you keep your star players while adding Subban and Trouba. Both of which are $7+in cap. There are no players on ELCs' to fill the gaps.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 9:28 AM ET
San Jose all day. Get one for Jumbo.
- j.boyd919


(frank) San Jose, (frank) St. Louis, and especially double penetration (frank) Boston.

Go Canes!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 9:30 AM ET
(frank) San Jose, (frank) St. Louis, and especially double penetration (frank) Boston.

Go Canes!

- jmatchett383


I’m cool with the Canes winning too. I like watching good, fast, skilled hockey.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
https://docs.google.com/s...JEVhWQOyKviWLN54/htmlview

In case anyone is interested, @EvolvingWild creates a spreadsheet of contract projections for the UFAs and RFAs this offseason.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 9:31 AM ET
Im not sure how you keep your star players while adding Subban and Trouba. Both of which are $7+in cap. There are no players on ELCs' to fill the gaps.
- sammy87


Well, he did say they would have to get rid of JJ and Gudbranson and trade one of Maatta or Schultz, so there's $11M-$12M freed up. I also think he meant adding one, not both, most likely Trouba if you're not trading a big name.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 9:33 AM ET
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15E1qqh3OfHvvhbv_pICfKT7VR1jJEVhWQOyKviWLN54/htmlview

In case anyone is interested, @EvolvingWild creates a spreadsheet of contract projections for the UFAs and RFAs this offseason.

- j.boyd919


Zero percent chance that Wayne Simmonds gets anywhere near that salary/length.
Same for Jordan Weal.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 9:39 AM ET
Im not sure how you keep your star players while adding Subban and Trouba. Both of which are $7+in cap. There are no players on ELCs' to fill the gaps.
- sammy87

I think he's banking on trading Hörnqvist and one of our expensive D-men.
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

May 10 @ 9:40 AM ET
Zero percent chance that Wayne Simmonds gets anywhere near that salary/length.
Same for Jordan Weal.

- jmatchett383

Simmonds is cooked. Has been like this the past couple years.
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 10 @ 9:41 AM ET
(frank) San Jose, (frank) St. Louis, and especially double penetration (frank) Boston.

Go Canes!

- jmatchett383



THIS !!

Canes looked awesome in the 2nd last night... not sure what happened in the 3rd.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 10 @ 9:44 AM ET
If a monkey mouth-(frank)s a bullfrog, is that considered cruelty to animals or kindness to animals?
Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: the BURGH, PA
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 10 @ 10:00 AM ET
If a monkey mouth-(frank)s a bullfrog, is that considered cruelty to animals or kindness to animals?
- jmatchett383


If he did it for fun, then it would be cruelty... but if he was hoping for a prince out of the deal, then it would be kindness.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 10 @ 10:03 AM ET
https://www.sportsnet.ca/...s-2019-offer-sheet-trade/

RFA chatter via Sportsnet and other sources
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 10 @ 10:13 AM ET
How can you like the F'n Bruins? I want to see San Jose or St.Louis champions this year. They have ZERO cups.
- Barnaby36


Its troubling to me too. I hate the Bruins, especially Marchand with all of his BS but Bergeron and Chara are two of my all time faves.

St Louis would be great. Oreilly, Pietrangelo, Tarasenko, Schenn, Parayko, Bouwmeester... wish they all played for the Pens.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 10 @ 10:29 AM ET
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15E1qqh3OfHvvhbv_pICfKT7VR1jJEVhWQOyKviWLN54/htmlview

In case anyone is interested, @EvolvingWild creates a spreadsheet of contract projections for the UFAs and RFAs this offseason.

- j.boyd919


Dzingel and Panik would be big targets of mine with those hits if they were able to clear out the roster spots.

EDIT:
Looking over these projection, while I'm clearly not great at this stuff, quite a few of them seem very questionable.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 10 @ 10:35 AM ET
San Jose all day. Get one for Jumbo.
- j.boyd919

I’d love to see Jumbo win a Cup against the Bs. That’s be a great story.
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