MacPatty
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None of the trades you’ve been proposing for the last three weeks make us better. Youre devolving into Palmer territory but without the obvious learning disability for an excuse. - Victoro311
I think this makes the Pens better today and massively better positioned for the future. I mean, what's the benchmark? The Pens won 0 playoff games this year with the current roster. I guarantee you they would win at least one with the moves I suggested. |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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I think this makes the Pens better today and massively better positioned for the future. I mean, what's the benchmark? The Pens won 0 playoff games this year with the current roster. I guarantee you they would win at least one with the moves I suggested. - MacPatty
Thinking that trading your stars away is the correct response to being swept and that exchanging two PPG players for a handful of middle six guys and second pairing defensemen makes the team better qualified you to be the Oilers GM. You don’t need to trade stars to add supporting cast-caliber players. You just need to not be a literal idiot. |
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Brayn
Season Ticket Holder Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Birmingham, AL Joined: 03.11.2010
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Thinking that trading your stars away is the correct response to being swept and that exchanging two PPG players for a handful of middle six guys and second pairing defensemen makes the team better qualified you to be the Oilers GM. You don’t need to trade stars to add supporting cast-caliber players. You just need to not be a literal idiot. - Victoro311
Damn, Vic. One day I hope you tell us how you really feel... |
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Victoro311
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Damn, Vic. One day I hope you tell us how you really feel... - Brayn
The only trade he proposed that would be a win for the Pens is the Arizona trade, and that ones so lopsided in our favor that Bettman should probably veto it. If that trade went through there’d literally be no reason to do any of the other trades. That fixes our problem. |
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I think this makes the Pens better today and massively better positioned for the future. I mean, what's the benchmark? The Pens won 0 playoff games this year with the current roster. I guarantee you they would win at least one with the moves I suggested. - MacPatty
I've said this before, but the only one who wins when you trade a generational talent is the team receiving the generational talent. There is no win/win.
I don't care if it's McDavid, Matthews, Sid or Ovie, you'll never get a proper return in a salary cap world.
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Rinosaur
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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The only trade he proposed that would be a win for the Pens is the Arizona trade, and that ones so lopsided in our favor that Bettman should probably veto it. If that trade went through there’s literally be no reason to do any of the other trades. That fixes our problem. - Victoro311
That AZ one was silly. |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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Malkin for Kopitar - WSCTeton17
Why? |
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Damn, CapGeek tweeted out the draft order we know so far... i had no idea picks 16-23 were based on regular season finish and had nothing to do with playoff finish... that really sucks for the Penguins. I figured we'd be 16-18 and we are 21. That really sucks. |
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Brayn
Season Ticket Holder Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Birmingham, AL Joined: 03.11.2010
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The only trade he proposed that would be a win for the Pens is the Arizona trade, and that ones so lopsided in our favor that Bettman should probably veto it. If that trade went through there’d literally be no reason to do any of the other trades. That fixes our problem. - Victoro311
All the trade stuff I see is silly. My thoughts are to get a coach who's keen enough to realize what the true "Best Lineup" is and bench the players that are not, regardless of salary. If you really wanted to "send a message" to all interested parties, especially the GM, you do it by putting their poopty players in the press box. |
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FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: ND Joined: 01.25.2018
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I'm taking the Canes in 7 - Rinosaur
Give this man a raise |
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I think this makes the Pens better today and massively better positioned for the future. I mean, what's the benchmark? The Pens won 0 playoff games this year with the current roster. I guarantee you they would win at least one with the moves I suggested. - MacPatty
So Tampa should trade Kucherov, Stamkos, and/or Point?
NEWS ALERT TO EVERYONE SUGGESTING AN OVERHAUL TO THE ROSTER:
Sometimes you just get your a$$ kicked (no matter how good you are)
1. Trading any stars is a mistake
2. Firing Sully is a mistake
3. The only ounce of validity that exists in RW's blog, and the comments thereon, is that GMJR's roster moves and treatment of his players in the media are lousy. |
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All the trade stuff I see is silly. My thoughts are to get a coach who's keen enough to realize what the true "Best Lineup" is and bench the players that are not, regardless of salary. If you really wanted to "send a message" to all interested parties, especially the GM, you do it by putting their poopty players in the press box. - Brayn
100% agree |
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Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Former Orpik44 Joined: 02.22.2013
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Hornqvist on the top line for Sweden with Nylander and Elias Pets - WSCTeton17
Nice to hear. Usually he played on the 4th line in the national team. We need a motivated Hörnqvist once he gets back to the Burgh. |
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Grinder47
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somerset, PA Joined: 10.20.2013
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There is a lot of things wrong with this blog. 1. Pretty sure Rutherford isn’t waging a war on Malkin. Pretty sure he was asked if Malkin was safe and he said he couldn’t answer that at this time.
2. Johnson was a healthy scratch for game1. Obviously they see something wrong.
3. Malkin gets paid a lot of money to play hockey. Expecting him to somewhat listen to the coach and play within a system isn’t “picking” on Malkin. Probably time he grows up and does his job.
4. You stat Nancys f Ucking over react to everything. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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Thinking that trading your stars away is the correct response to being swept and that exchanging two PPG players for a handful of middle six guys and second pairing defensemen makes the team better qualified you to be the Oilers GM. You don’t need to trade stars to add supporting cast-caliber players. You just need to not be a literal idiot. - Victoro311
And I think you have to be an idiot if you can't see beyond a players name. Even more so if you can't look into the near future and see a further drop off coming.
Trading two guys who put up about 50 even strength points, a cap anchor and #21 and getting back a 1/2 LD, two top 6 wingers, a high upside LD for the bottom pair, a great young prospect who would contribute this year and the #13 pick who you would expect to be in the lineup in 2-3 years is a major win if you ask me.
People are just too emotionally attached to names and what guys used to be rather than what they are about to be in 1,2,3 years. |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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There is a lot of things wrong with this blog. 1. Pretty sure Rutherford isn’t waging a war on Malkin. Pretty sure he was asked if Malkin was safe and he said he couldn’t answer that at this time.
2. Johnson was a healthy scratch for game1. Obviously they see something wrong.
3. Malkin gets paid a lot of money to play hockey. Expecting him to somewhat listen to the coach and play within a system isn’t “picking” on Malkin. Probably time he grows up and does his job.
4. You stat Nancys f Ucking over react to everything. - Grinder47
Pretty much sums it up... |
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MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Joined: 05.21.2015
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So Tampa should trade Kucherov, Stamkos, and/or Point?
NEWS ALERT TO EVERYONE SUGGESTING AN OVERHAUL TO THE ROSTER:
Sometimes you just get your a$$ kicked (no matter how good you are)
1. Trading any stars is a mistake - Le_Magnifique
I agree with your other points so I will just address this... I am not an expert on the Bolts but it's a little different situation.
Kuch and Stamkos are much younger than Malkin and Kessel and Tampa has a number of really good young players. They are closer to the Pens 4-5 years ago where they likely need tweaks or that one extra guy.
The Pens have no depth, no cap space and next to no quality prospects. They do have two "stars" who try when they feel like it (not that often this season) and are getting old. One can fix the other. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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And I think you have to be an idiot if you can't see beyond a players name. Even more so if you can't look into the near future and see a further drop off coming.
Trading two guys who put up about 50 even strength points, a cap anchor and #21 and getting back a 1/2 LD, two top 6 wingers, a high upside LD for the bottom pair, a great young prospect who would contribute this year and the #13 pick who you would expect to be in the lineup in 2-3 years is a major win if you ask me.
People are just too emotionally attached to names and what guys used to be rather than what they are about to be in 1,2,3 years. - MacPatty
It’s not about names, it’s about production. The fact that the team would be way better if we just did the AZ trade you proposed and made some smart bottom six signings after trading away Maatta than if we did all of the trades you proposed should indicate to you that the complete overhaul you’re suggesting is completely unnecessary and taking about 20 steps back to take one forward.
Our big problem is that our blue line is completely disjointed and can’t generate offense consistently and support the forwards in transition. We can stand to have a bit more forward depth, but that’s not nearly an emergency. We easily have a top 10 forward group in the league still. All we have to do to take a huge step forward is find a way to acquire a solid, two way defenseman and tinker with some of the supporting cast personnel. You don’t need to trade either Malkin or Kessel to do that. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Imagine if Sid and Geno had the Sharks top 4 behind them. |
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coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Louisville, CO Joined: 03.15.2007
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"but are complicit in spreading CTE throughout their league."
My guess is skate injuries are immediately obvious and "gross" whereas for decades the CTE thing has been relatively unknown to the public. They're still trying to Fake News it or bury it, but blood gushing out onto the ice in front of a crowd would be impossible to cover up. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Damn, CapGeek tweeted out the draft order we know so far... i had no idea picks 16-23 were based on regular season finish and had nothing to do with playoff finish... that really sucks for the Penguins. I figured we'd be 16-18 and we are 21. That really sucks. - SuperHenderson13
Read my posts more man. |
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Cousinskrid
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: the BURGH, PA Joined: 03.08.2018
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"Better idea, just let players pick up the puck and carry it around the ice. I have some other ideas to increase scoring chances:
- Get rid of those pesky "lines" all over the ice that stop teams from entering the zone before the puck.
- Eliminate the ability to skate backwards without the puck as the whole "playing defense" bit negates scoring chances.
- Remove goaltenders from gameplay and have the game played at 3v3. This should lead to an increased xgf for everyone but Zac Rinaldo.
- Let Ryan Wilson and James Tanner become GMs and serve on the BoG because they have all of the answers. "
-jmatchett (sorry, had to do my own quotes since they aren't working)
THIS !! |
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Cousinskrid
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Location: the BURGH, PA Joined: 03.08.2018
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Thinking that trading your stars away is the correct response to being swept and that exchanging two PPG players for a handful of middle six guys and second pairing defensemen makes the team better qualified you to be the Oilers GM. You don’t need to trade stars to add supporting cast-caliber players. You just need to not be a literal idiot. - Victoro311
There is absolutely NO way for anyone to know what kind of value a Geno trade could return. I'm certainly NOT saying the Pens Should trade him, but I have said they should look into it. We all know that at times, OTHER teams can make not-so-great moves. You all are just collecting hockey cards, and if you have your way, the entire core will retire as Penguins, and they'll win barely 30 games until they all retire. And then y'all will REALLY be female dogging it.
Geno didn't earn his salary any better than JJ did this season (which is GMJR's fault, not JJs) Oh yeah... I keep forgetting... this is JJs fault too.
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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There is a lot of things wrong with this blog. 1. Pretty sure Rutherford isn’t waging a war on Malkin. Pretty sure he was asked if Malkin was safe and he said he couldn’t answer that at this time.
2. Johnson was a healthy scratch for game1. Obviously they see something wrong.
3. Malkin gets paid a lot of money to play hockey. Expecting him to somewhat listen to the coach and play within a system isn’t “picking” on Malkin. Probably time he grows up and does his job.
4. You stat Nancys f Ucking over react to everything. - Grinder47
Yup |
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