We were talking about everything they did up to 20. But nice try to pin point one season. If that’s what you want to do then show Laine’s 20 year old season against Shiefele or wheeler ?
- Ross77

What does that have to do with Rexypoo's assertion that Laine is a "generational goal scorer" and that Ovechkin and Stamkos played in "different era's"?

M. Scheifele 6.1 a season - not one cent more for Laine, or you will have complete mutiny on your hands, other players see the effort. Three years?
Actually might there be a offer sheet for Laine at $10, 569 per season - and we get 4 first round picks? Then package 2 of those and get a decent 2nd line C?
- grahamzky

This

Stamkos and Ovechkin work a lot harder than Laine does on the ice.

I don’t need stats to tell me this.

My 87 year old Uncle Bill works harder off the ice than Laine does.

When Laine figures this out, he will be a much better player.
- bennythehat

Great points. Maybe Uncle Bill works harder on the ice as well?
Now if he can get a few goals when the puck is put on his tape, let's give him $8 mill for 8 years. Work ethic doesn't matter to the team, does it?

M. Scheifele 6.1 a season - not one cent more for Laine, or you will have complete mutiny on your hands, other players see the effort. Three years?
Actually might there be a offer sheet for Laine at $10, 569 per season - and we get 4 first round picks? Then package 2 of those and get a decent 2nd line C?
- grahamzky[/quote]


I doubt any team will offer sheet Laine at 10 mill. If they do, aurevior Mr. Laine.

Connor could be a target for an offer sheet but lolly gag Laine, not a chance.

What does that have to do with Rexypoo's assertion that Laine is a "generational goal scorer" and that Ovechkin and Stamkos played in "different era's"?
- TheUltimateJet

ok, you are right, you and rexy were talking different points but you've stated over and over again that's laine is jimmy carson so i'm asking you to compare this horrible season he's had at age 20 to what shief and wheels did at 20 and how it affected their careers. laine at 20 and having a bad season still put up better numbers than how many great, great nhl'ers did when they were 20?

if we re-sign Myers for anything over 4mil for 3 years, buckle up!!!!!! I will turn on Chevy faster than Daenerys on man kind

ok, you are right, you and rexy were talking different points but you've stated over and over again that's laine is jimmy carson so i'm asking you to compare this horrible season he's had at age 20 to what shief and wheels did at 20 and how it affected their careers. laine at 20 and having a bad season still put up better numbers than how many great, great nhl'ers did when they were 20?
- Ross77

I am not disagreeing with you. I am saying that Laine is not a "generational goal scorer" or "generational player".

I know you have made mention of other teenage hockey players having less goals than Laine. Some of those players being Lemieux, Gretzky, Crosby and Hawerchuk. Difference between those players and Laine is that they had assist totals that matched their goal outputs. Laine has demonstrated very clearly that he is unable to make players around him better, or play amazing despite having inept line-mates.

I look at Ovechkin, whose main linemates were Zubrus and Chris Clark in his rookie season, the man or kid at that point still scored 52 goals in spite of them. Laine is in a similar spot with Little.

I think comparisons with Jimmy Carson are accurate until Laine proves me wrong.

if we re-sign Myers for anything over 4mil for 3 years, buckle up!!!!!! I will turn on Chevy faster than Daenerys on man kind
- Ross77

I hope they sign Myers to a a 4 year extension. I love that guy. we have made the playoffs in 3 of the 4 years he's been on the team. The one year we didn't he was injured or caring for his critically ill newborn.

[quote=grahamzky]M. Scheifele 6.1 a season - not one cent more for Laine, or you will have complete mutiny on your hands, other players see the effort. Three years?
Actually might there be a offer sheet for Laine at $10, 569 per season - and we get 4 first round picks? Then package 2 of those and get a decent 2nd line C?
- CharlieDog[/quote]


I doubt any team will offer sheet Laine at 10 mill. If they do, aurevior Mr. Laine.

Connor could be a target for an offer sheet but lolly gag Laine, not a chance.

100% agree

Why were the Jets not as good this year as they were last year? It's not an easy question to answer. There might not even be an answer. We should take a step back and consider that they did finish 2nd in the Central and they took the first round to 6 games before getting dismissed in what was a very close series.

We (Jets fans) may need to realize that success isn't guaranteed just because years previous were better (or worse). Just because they went to the WCF last year doesn't mean that a trip to the SCF is "the next step". Woulda been nice, but hey, that's the way she goes.

To me, the "magic" wasn't there this season in the same way it was the year before. Can't really quantify that in any way but that's just how it seemed, especially once the playoffs came around.

I expect the team to be in the playoffs next year and to me at least, that's a successful season. Once you get in, you never know what can happen. But the WAY they played going into the playoffs is what was concerning this year. Their puck possession was really bad ... injuries to Buff and Morrissey didn't help. Which means the Jets should be concerned about their defensive depth, especially since they may lose Trouba & Myers this summer.

Their atrocious PK also didn't do them any favours this season. That's on the coaching staff to fix.

Shoul be an interesting off season in Jets Land.

Why were the Jets not as good this year as they were last year? It's not an easy question to answer. There might not even be an answer. We should take a step back and consider that they did finish 2nd in the Central and they took the first round to 6 games before getting dismissed in what was a very close series.

We (Jets fans) may need to realize that success isn't guaranteed just because years previous were better (or worse). Just because they went to the WCF last year doesn't mean that a trip to the SCF is "the next step". Woulda been nice, but hey, that's the way she goes.

To me, the "magic" wasn't there this season in the same way it was the year before. Can't really quantify that in any way but that's just how it seemed, especially once the playoffs came around.

I expect the team to be in the playoffs next year and to me at least, that's a successful season. Once you get in, you never know what can happen. But the WAY they played going into the playoffs is what was concerning this year. Their puck possession was really bad ... injuries to Buff and Morrissey didn't help. Which means the Jets should be concerned about their defensive depth, especially since they may lose Trouba & Myers this summer.

Their atrocious PK also didn't do them any favours this season. That's on the coaching staff to fix.

Shoul be an interesting off season in Jets Land.
- Babych's Moustache

New poster!!! Welcome aboard

I was reading Elliot Friedman's 31 thoughts. One name that popped out at me was Ralph Kruger. He should be a guy the Jets should be considering to be our head coach. Seems like he has lots of ties to Manitoba as well.

The man was Yakupov's coach in his rookie season and was able to get 31 points in 48 games out of him. I think he would work excellent with our young players.

I was reading Elliot Friedman's 31 thoughts. One name that popped out at me was Ralph Kruger. He should be a guy the Jets should be considering to be our head coach. Seems like he has lots of ties to Manitoba as well.

The man was Yakupov's coach in his rookie season and was able to get 31 points in 48 games out of him. I think he would work excellent with our young players.
- TheUltimateJet

a friend with the oilers organization told me Kruger was the smartest hockey thinker he has met - innovative - outside the box creativity. The feeling was that the oilers let go of a good coach.

New poster!!! Welcome aboard

- TheUltimateJet

thanks, I was referred here by the Panthers blog writer. Looks like a good spot to talk hockey!

thanks, I was referred here by the Panthers blog writer. Looks like a good spot to talk hockey!
- Babych's Moustache

welcome,

we usually get along and keep it polite but don't get alarmed when we don't, it happens at times only cause we are passionate.

Why were the Jets not as good this year as they were last year? It's not an easy question to answer. There might not even be an answer. We should take a step back and consider that they did finish 2nd in the Central and they took the first round to 6 games before getting dismissed in what was a very close series.

We (Jets fans) may need to realize that success isn't guaranteed just because years previous were better (or worse). Just because they went to the WCF last year doesn't mean that a trip to the SCF is "the next step". Woulda been nice, but hey, that's the way she goes.

To me, the "magic" wasn't there this season in the same way it was the year before. Can't really quantify that in any way but that's just how it seemed, especially once the playoffs came around.
Their atrocious PK also didn't do them any favours this season. That's on the coaching staff to fix.
I expect the team to be in the playoffs next year and to me at least, that's a successful season. Once you get in, you never know what can happen. But the WAY they played going into the playoffs is what was concerning this year. Their puck possession was really bad ... injuries to Buff and Morrissey didn't help. Which means the Jets should be concerned about their defensive depth, especially since they may lose Trouba & Myers this summer.in Jets Land.
- Babych's Moustache

Shoul be an interesting off season


I believe what you say is true, the Jets were not far off from last season. Had they held on to the lead in game 5, we may still be playing. But holding on to leads was part of the problem.

And yes for some reason the "magic" wasn't there this year - the big question to us all is "why wasn't it?" Just no desperation to their game - what happened - injuries, dressing room problems, etc?
And yes we have salary cap issues, but minor ones compared to, say, the Oilers. At least Chevy has the nucleus of a good team to work with - now just to sort out some excellent pieces - some stay, some must go. Our future is still bright, I believe.

a friend with the oilers organization told me Kruger was the smartest hockey thinker he has met - innovative - outside the box creativity. The feeling was that the oilers let go of a good coach.
- 2.0

there was just an interesting article on Lane Lambert (Islanders assistant coach) who followed Trotz there and has been with Trotz back to their Nashville days. he's another coach due for his shot

Shoul be an interesting off season


I believe what you say is true, the Jets were not far off from last season. Had they held on to the lead in game 5, we may still be playing. But holding on to leads was part of the problem.

And yes for some reason the "magic" wasn't there this year - the big question to us all is "why wasn't it?" Just no desperation to their game - what happened - injuries, dressing room problems, etc?
And yes we have salary cap issues, but minor ones compared to, say, the Oilers. At least Chevy has the nucleus of a good team to work with - now just to sort out some excellent pieces - some stay, some must go. Our future is still bright, I believe.
- grahamzky

I feel the magic left this city, the day Armia was traded. I cannot put my finger on it, but their was something special about him, like their is for Myers. Two players that for some reason anger the analytics people but bring something magical to the team. Their contributions cannot be quantified.

I feel the magic left this city, the day Armia was traded. I cannot put my finger on it, but their was something special about him, like their is for Myers. Two players that for some reason anger the analytics people but bring something magical to the team. Their contributions cannot be quantified.
- TheUltimateJet

they are two of the quietest players, nothing magical at all. and I don't think Armia angered the analytics community, Myers absolutely !!!

I was listening to Craig Button on the Morning Show. The man got me excited.

He suggested we trade Trouba for a forward, let Myers, Chiarot and any other d-man who is a free agent walk. And, sign my favorite player a true generational talent in Erik Karlsson.

they are two of the quietest players, nothing magical at all. and I don't think Armia angered the analytics community, Myers absolutely !!!
- Ross77

Come on Ross, just look at that face. There is definitely something magical there.

I was listening to Craig Button on the Morning Show. The man got me excited.

He suggested we trade Trouba for a forward, let Myers, Chiarot and any other d-man who is a free agent walk. And, sign my favorite player a true generational talent in Erik Karlsson.
- TheUltimateJet

One problem I see is that Erik Karlsson looks old or hurt in the playoffs. Not the same Erik Karlsson now.
Still I would be tempted to re-sign Myers and trade Trouba for a C - if there's no decent C's available (at affordable salary cap price who can/have potential to play 2nd line), then d-man it is.

I was listening to Craig Button on the Morning Show. The man got me excited.

He suggested we trade Trouba for a forward, let Myers, Chiarot and any other d-man who is a free agent walk. And, sign my favorite player a true generational talent in Erik Karlsson.
- TheUltimateJet

Might as well go after Malkin while we are at it. I'm pretty sure the Jets could put together a better package than LA, Montreal or Vancouver.

Might as well go after Malkin while we are at it. I'm pretty sure the Jets could put together a better package than LA, Montreal or Vancouver.
- BWJumper

This

Come on Ross, just look at that face. There is definitely something magical there.
- TheUltimateJet

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