Great point BW
- TheUltimateJet

This I could agree with if the offers was substantial

The fact that Maurice is coming back next year, and the only move we are hearing is probably a Trouba trade, there should be no expectations on the Jets making the playoffs next year, based on their play through the last 40 games.

If that is the case the Jets should trade Buff at the deadline next season.
- BWJumper

It is never a given that any team will make playoffs but The jets will absolutely compete for a spot with or without trouba. They are a young team still learning consistent work ethic, still getting physically stronger and most key positions in place.

If they are not looking like a playoff team in February it will be Maurice that goes, not Buff.

It is never a given that any team will make playoffs but The jets will absolutely compete for a spot with or without trouba. They are a young team still learning consistent work ethic, still getting physically stronger and most key positions in place.

If they are not looking like a playoff team in February it will be Maurice that goes, not Buff.
- 2.0

How many years of experience makes up for the excuse of being "young" 2.0?

The Jets didn't have a bunch of rookies on their team, most have at least 3 years pro.

Laine has yet to prove that he deserves to be called a "generational goal scorer" or shooter or sniper or whatever.

What he is, right now, is a player with a great shot and very little else.

Patrik - please prove me wrong next season !

Laine has yet to prove that he deserves to be called a "generational goal scorer" or shooter or sniper or whatever.

What he is, right now, is a player with a great shot and very little else.

Patrik - please prove me wrong next season !
- bennythehat

How many players in history have scored as many goals as him by his age? That’s got to be worth something more just someone with a great shot.
This past seasons people in here were very hard on him but yet seemed to give players like wheels and shief a pass for equally poor defensive play.

It is never a given that any team will make playoffs but The jets will absolutely compete for a spot with or without trouba. They are a young team still learning consistent work ethic, still getting physically stronger and most key positions in place.

If they are not looking like a playoff team in February it will be Maurice that goes, not Buff.
- 2.0

A: the Jets will not be a lock with Morrissey and Byfuglien alone on the blueline.
B: the youth excuse doesn’t work when all of the young players saw regression last season. That shouldn’t happen.
C: Maurice should already be gone.

How many players in history have scored as many goals as him by his age? That’s got to be worth something more just someone with a great shot.
This past seasons people in here were very hard on him but yet seemed to give players like wheels and shief a pass for equally poor defensive play.
- Ross77

Laine was also constantly put in a position to fail.
Here’s Bryan Little! That doesn’t work? Try again! Still no? Add some Little.

Scheifele and Wheeler were put only with each other, force fed minutes, and still underperformed for the last 30 games.
I would make the argument Wheeler only looked like himself from the end of the Finland trip to the end of 2018. Massively concerning.

How many players in history have scored as many goals as him by his age? That’s got to be worth something more just someone with a great shot.
This past seasons people in here were very hard on him but yet seemed to give players like wheels and shief a pass for equally poor defensive play.
- Ross77

See - Jimmy Carson

See - Jimmy Carson
- TheUltimateJet

See everyone else

See everyone else
- Ross77

That makes no sense. Right now Laine is on the Carson career trajectory. Things went south for him after age 20, like they are for Laine. I don't think he has has the drive to be and exceptional hockey player.

The other true "generational goal scorer" has never turned down An opportunity to play hockey or to continue developing his game. Laine turned down the worlds, and clearly stated he wanted to get his mind off of hockey this offseason

I was reading about Provorov last week, the kid is already in the gym and has begun working with a skating/skills coach to get better for next season. Interestingly no articles like that ever appear for Laine.

Laine is busy working on his video game skills in the off-season

Laine is busy working on his video game skills in the off-season
- bennythehat

Video Games have no age limit. No aging curve.

That makes no sense. Right now Laine is on the Carson career trajectory. Things went south for him after age 20, like they are for Laine. I don't think he has has the drive to be and exceptional hockey player.

The other true "generational goal scorer" has never turned down An opportunity to play hockey or to continue developing his game. Laine turned down the worlds, and clearly stated he wanted to get his mind off of hockey this offseason

I was reading about Provorov last week, the kid is already in the gym and has begun working with a skating/skills coach to get better for next season. Interestingly no articles like that ever appear for Laine.
- TheUltimateJet

No, there are 5 or 6 people to score like him at his age (ovechkin not one of them, by the way!) and you single out the only one who although a Stanly cup winner had the least successful nhl career. That’s what I mean by see everyone else.

No, there are 5 or 6 people to score like him at his age (ovechkin not one of them, by the way!) and you single out the only one who although a Stanly cup winner had the least successful nhl career. That’s what I mean by see everyone else.
- Ross77

I don't really understand the point you are making. You are also forgetting that Ovechkin has a September birthday, meaning that he would have to wait for the draft in the following year to be taken. He also lost his 19 year old year due to there being no NHL hockey that's season.

This scoring the most goals by Laine as a teenager is so overblown.

I don't really understand the point you are making. You are also forgetting that Ovechkin has a September birthday, meaning that he would have to wait for the draft in the following year to be taken. He also lost his 19 year old year due to there being no NHL hockey that's season.

This scoring the most goals by Laine as a teenager is so overblown.
- TheUltimateJet

I mean, no, it’s not. Laine is playing in a lower scoring era. You just refuse to accept him for... reasons? and cling to the one example of a player flaming out after a hot start, even though injuries played a role in that as well.

Also, let’s lock up Myers
https://twitter.com/chart.../1127619990360924162?s=21

I mean, no, it’s not. Laine is playing in a lower scoring era. You just refuse to accept him for... reasons? and cling to the one example of a player flaming out after a hot start, even though injuries played a role in that as well.

Also, let’s lock up Myers
https://twitter.com/chart.../1127619990360924162?s=21
- Rexypoo

This year we had the most 100 point players in the last 10 years.

This year we had the most 100 point players in the last 10 years.
- TheUltimateJet

And the two seasons before?

And the two seasons before?
- Rexypoo

Okay let's play this game. Two players that have shots that are equal to Laine are Stamkos and Ovechkin. I think everyone would agree with that.

Laine's stats at age 20:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats at age 20:
82 games played; 45 goals; 46 assists for a combined 91 points.

Ovechkin stats at age 20:
81 games played; 52 goals; 54 assists for a combined 106 points.

This past season as you say the eras are different.

Laine stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 45 goals; 53 assists for a combined 98 points.

Ovechkin stats in 2018-19:
81 games played; 51 goals; 38 assists for a combined 89 points.

Seems that though the eras are different, both Stamkos and Ovechkin keep producing at a relatively high rate. Could you please explain why that is?

Okay let's play this game. Two players that have shots that are equal to Laine are Stamkos and Ovechkin. I think everyone would agree with that.

Laine's stats at age 20:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats at age 20:
82 games played; 45 goals; 46 assists for a combined 91 points.

Ovechkin stats at age 20:
81 games played; 52 goals; 54 assists for a combined 106 points.

This past season as you say the eras are different.

Laine stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 45 goals; 53 assists for a combined 98 points.

Ovechkin stats in 2018-19:
81 games played; 51 goals; 38 assists for a combined 89 points.

Seems that though the eras are different, both Stamkos and Ovechkin keep producing at a relatively high rate. Could you please explain why that is?
- TheUltimateJet

Laine was a disappointment except for a good playoffs and November. That doesn’t mean you give up on him or sell him for a $1. I would give him up to $8m on an 8 year contract. If its a bust someone else would take on that contract.

Laine was a disappointment except for a good playoffs and November. That doesn’t mean you give up on him or sell him for a $1. I would give him up to $8m on an 8 year contract. If its a bust someone else would take on that contract.
- 2.0

Talk about handcuffing the franchise. The most I sign him for is a three deal at 7mill a season. It's a show me contract. If he does well, than great I sign him long term after. Until then, the only thing he's shown is that he is on a downward career trajectory.

Talk about handcuffing the franchise. The most I sign him for is a three deal at 7mill a season. It's a show me contract. If he does well, than great I sign him long term after. Until then, the only thing he's shown is that he is on a downward career trajectory.
- TheUltimateJet

M. Scheifele 6.1 a season - not one cent more for Laine, or you will have complete mutiny on your hands, other players see the effort. Three years?
Actually might there be a offer sheet for Laine at $10, 569 per season - and we get 4 first round picks? Then package 2 of those and get a decent 2nd line C?

Talk about handcuffing the franchise. The most I sign him for is a three deal at 7mill a season. It's a show me contract. If he does well, than great I sign him long term after. Until then, the only thing he's shown is that he is on a downward career trajectory.
- TheUltimateJet

He was our best forward in the playoffs, if he’s on a downward trajectory, what does that say for the rest of our forwards? Ouch.

M. Scheifele 6.1 a season - not one cent more for Laine, or you will have complete mutiny on your hands, other players see the effort. Three years?
Actually might there be a offer sheet for Laine at $10, 569 per season - and we get 4 first round picks? Then package 2 of those and get a decent 2nd line C?
- grahamzky

Of let’s settle down, everyone signing will get significantly more than shief, his contract will never be used as a comparable to anyone. It’s like us saying if MacKinnon is getting 6.3 how in the works did we give wheeler over 8, how stupid was that.

Okay let's play this game. Two players that have shots that are equal to Laine are Stamkos and Ovechkin. I think everyone would agree with that.

Laine's stats at age 20:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats at age 20:
82 games played; 45 goals; 46 assists for a combined 91 points.

Ovechkin stats at age 20:
81 games played; 52 goals; 54 assists for a combined 106 points.

This past season as you say the eras are different.

Laine stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 30 goals; 20 assists for a combined 50 points.

Stamkos stats in 2018-19:
82 games played; 45 goals; 53 assists for a combined 98 points.

Ovechkin stats in 2018-19:
81 games played; 51 goals; 38 assists for a combined 89 points.

Seems that though the eras are different, both Stamkos and Ovechkin keep producing at a relatively high rate. Could you please explain why that is?
- TheUltimateJet

We were talking about everything they did up to 20. But nice try to pin point one season. If that’s what you want to do then show Laine’s 20 year old season against Shiefele or wheeler ?

Stamkos and Ovechkin work a lot harder than Laine does on the ice.

I don’t need stats to tell me this.

My 87 year old Uncle Bill works harder off the ice than Laine does.

When Laine figures this out, he will be a much better player.