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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 8 @ 1:16 PM ET
every Blues player was battling very hard for entire 86 minutes.
- missingmike

it's like berube knows how to motivate players
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

May 8 @ 1:17 PM ET
I actually think Zuccarello would be beneficial playing with Patrick.

Not really interested in paying Duchene. Don't see Pavelski leaving SJ. I think Lee re-signs in NYI and not sure about Dzingle. Like his game but came up small in playoffs.

- J35Bacher

Pavelski would be the leadership we need not the leadership we deserve
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
the only thing that scares me is status quo.....and al though I like to debate trades and such along with player moves Im pretty sure Fletcher or his predecessor wouldn't be around here...

- landros 2

The status quo was re-signing Michael Raffl.

I have no idea for the life of me how anyone could say, it’s foolish to worry about the bottom six, while management made a point to bring Raffl back before looking into seeing what UFA has to offer.

The stays quo is actually believing Scott Laughton is the answer to fourth line center for an entire season, as he flip flops between center and wing.
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

May 8 @ 1:32 PM ET
it's like berube knows how to motivate players
- 2Real



So happy for Chief
goenzoy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.11.2014

May 8 @ 1:40 PM ET
The status quo was re-signing Michael Raffl.

I have no idea for the life of me how anyone could say, it’s foolish to worry about the bottom six, while management made a point to bring Raffl back before looking into seeing what UFA has to offer.

The stays quo is actually believing Scott Laughton is the answer to fourth line center for an entire season, as he flip flops between center and wing.

- SuperSchennBros



Old saying.Better trust the devil you know.And I don't think that you will find many UFA s at Raffl s price tag playing 8 different position s with very reliable defence
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

May 8 @ 1:43 PM ET
Old saying.Better trust the devil you know.And I don't think that you will find many UFA s at Raffl s price tag playing 8 different position s with very reliable defence
- goenzoy



A 4th line of Raffl - Laughton - Hartman is not a bad 4th line for next year.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
A 4th line of Raffl - Laughton - Hartman is not a bad 4th line for next year.
- J35Bacher

Great fourth unit, I'd think Hartman could play on the third as well.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 8 @ 1:58 PM ET
So happy for Chief
- goenzoy

Round 2 completely tap danced on Plind's egg-faced skull. Coach PunchFace, not only got another coaching gig and won the division, is in the WCF. Sergie Bobrovsky is at home watching the playoffs after not winning the Stanley Cup in Game 3
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

May 8 @ 1:59 PM ET
The status quo was re-signing Michael Raffl.

I have no idea for the life of me how anyone could say, it’s foolish to worry about the bottom six, while management made a point to bring Raffl back before looking into seeing what UFA has to offer.

The stays quo is actually believing Scott Laughton is the answer to fourth line center for an entire season, as he flip flops between center and wing.

- SuperSchennBros

Keep in mind Raffl took a pay cut for the next 2 years to stay.
From 2,350,000 this season to 1,600,000 for the next two. The cap hit is structured to be 1.8 and then 1.4 for the next year. I thought it was a pretty good signing and we wouldn't have been able to get those #'s in FA.

My hope is they'll address the 3C issue - so Laughton shouldn't be in the same position last year.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

May 8 @ 2:06 PM ET
Keep in mind Raffl took a pay cut for the next 2 years to stay.
From 2,350,000 this season to 1,600,000 for the next two. The cap hit is structured to be 1.8 and then 1.4 for the next year. I thought it was a pretty good signing and we wouldn't have been able to get those #'s in FA.

My hope is they'll address the 3C issue - so Laughton shouldn't be in the same position last year.

- FlyersGrace


It’s a 2C issue if their concerned about next year in particular
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 8 @ 2:08 PM ET
Round 2 completely tap danced on Plind's egg-faced skull. Coach PunchFace, not only got another coaching gig and won the division, is in the WCF. Sergie Bobrovsky is at home watching the playoffs after not winning the Stanley Cup in Game 3
- KINGKENZO



This makes it all worth it.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

May 8 @ 2:08 PM ET
Round 2 completely tap danced on Plind's egg-faced skull. Coach PunchFace, not only got another coaching gig and won the division, is in the WCF. Sergie Bobrovsky is at home watching the playoffs after not winning the Stanley Cup in Game 3
- KINGKENZO



The Clown wont comment on Coach Punchface... =)
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 8 @ 2:10 PM ET
The status quo was re-signing Michael Raffl.

I have no idea for the life of me how anyone could say, it’s foolish to worry about the bottom six, while management made a point to bring Raffl back before looking into seeing what UFA has to offer.

The stays quo is actually believing Scott Laughton is the answer to fourth line center for an entire season, as he flip flops between center and wing.

- SuperSchennBros


Okay...I already said the other day that I don’t see the 4C being a spot that now needs immediate upgrade. I will also add that I like Laughton in that role. I suppose he could be moved to 3LW, and you can have a vet there if you want.

Laughton was a bright spot this year and should be part of the plan moving forward. He was consistent and played with energy.
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-307267510
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 8 @ 2:14 PM ET
The 11th and Rubtsov get you ???


yotes traded deangelo and 7th for Stephan and Raanta
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 8 @ 2:16 PM ET
quote from Bill via twitter' " Therrien will be in charge of PP and forwards. Yeo will run D and PK. Lappy will do pre-scouting, prep and skating, eye-in-sky."
- Dkos


Ghost lucked out!
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 8 @ 2:17 PM ET
Okay...I already said the other day that I don’t see the 4C being a spot that now needs immediate upgrade. I will also add that I like Laughton in that role. I suppose he could be moved to 3LW, and you can have a vet there if you want.

Laughton was a bright spot this year and should be part of the plan moving forward. He was consistent and played with energy.
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-307267510

- NC Flyers Fan



Like Laughton, defended him when others thought he was a bust

But him and the 11th pick can probably get you a really good return

I’m trading everybody today
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

May 8 @ 2:18 PM ET
The 11th and Rubtsov get you ???


yotes traded deangelo and 7th for Stephan and Raanta

- wcorvette


I'm sure Yotes would trade us Stepan and Raanta for the 11th/Rubstov.
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 8 @ 2:22 PM ET
Like Laughton, defended him when others thought he was a bust

But him and the 11th pick can probably get you a really good return

I’m trading everybody today

- wcorvette

adding laughton to the 11th pick really doesnt move the needle at all imo to add any significant value to a trade
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 8 @ 2:23 PM ET
[quote=SuperSchennBros]
why would it be foolish to trade away a young player? Do you think they are going to give young said player away?

depending on the return it is not foolish at all
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

May 8 @ 2:24 PM ET
Like Laughton, defended him when others thought he was a bust

But him and the 11th pick can probably get you a really good return

I’m trading everybody today

- wcorvette


And what are you getting for those two?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

May 8 @ 2:27 PM ET
adding laughton to the 11th pick really move move the needle at all imo to add any significant value toa trade
- daryl stanley



11 is a good pick in this years draft, Laughton is a proven and versatile NHL forward, I think the package to the right team would work

I prefer keeping Laughton but
daryl stanley
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 02.12.2019

May 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
11 is a good pick in this years draft, Laughton is a proven and versatile NHL forward, I think the package to the right team would work

I prefer keeping Laughton but

- wcorvette

i just dont think he adds any real value to a trade. Not a significant add
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
The 11th and Rubtsov get you ???


yotes traded deangelo and 7th for Stephan and Raanta

- wcorvette

Rubtsov lol why would he have any value? Outside of the Flyers circle I highly doubt anyone regards Rubtsov as anything valuable.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 8 @ 2:30 PM ET
Old saying.Better trust the devil you know.And I don't think that you will find many UFA s at Raffl s price tag playing 8 different position s with very reliable defence
- goenzoy


...and what know about Raffl is, he gets hurt every season. He’s not the same guy who could play up and down the line up and might pot you 20 goals. What I know about Raffl is, he’s been on the same roster for years, with all the same shortcomings.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

May 8 @ 2:33 PM ET
Keep in mind Raffl took a pay cut for the next 2 years to stay.
From 2,350,000 this season to 1,600,000 for the next two. The cap hit is structured to be 1.8 and then 1.4 for the next year. I thought it was a pretty good signing and we wouldn't have been able to get those #'s in FA.

My hope is they'll address the 3C issue - so Laughton shouldn't be in the same position last year.

- FlyersGrace


The bottom half of your post is exactly my point. I’m more concerned with the bottom six than the top six. I fully expect Nolan Patrick to improve. I thought Patrick proved to have a better two way game this past season and his offensive numbers aren’t far off from Couturier’s, when Coots broke into the league, also as an 18 year old.

As for the Raffl pay cut. I doubt he was getting a raise.
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