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Forums :: Blog World :: Todd Cordell: Jordan Eberle shouldn't be a top target for the New Jersey Devils
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archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

May 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
I'd take Eberle only if he comes at a discount, which he probably won't. Why pay 6M to a player that can't put up 40 playing top 6 minutes? Bratt can challenge 40 already if he plays a full season... he'd challenge 50. Guy is only 21, so he might turn into a 70-80 pt winger in this league if he's trending.

But Eberle played 666 NHL regular season games, so Jersey, here we come!

Nyquist is listed as a center... that would cause problems, especially after this year. And he's getting paid at least 6M; you're not going to have a sustainable salary structure paying three centers more than 24M a year. Shero knows all about it: that's why Jordan Staal is playing for Carolina and not the Pens. I don't think Shero will bite.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 7 @ 2:45 PM ET
what a slick pass from Hughes!
He drew 2 players to him and at perfect moment back hand pass, didnt reult in goal but seconds later he did have an assist.
MannySilvers
New Jersey Devils
Location: ROCK LAND, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 7 @ 3:04 PM ET
Hughes looked great in the third period. Excited to see how he does in the tournament once he has a few games under his belt.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 7 @ 3:08 PM ET
Hughes looked great in the third period. Excited to see how he does in the tournament once he has a few games under his belt.
- MannySilvers

Yeah he really settled in. Really good to see.
vlongo4419
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.31.2013

May 7 @ 3:14 PM ET
Steve Kournianos
‏ @TheDraftAnalyst
2m2 minutes ago

Overall impression of Jack Hughes playing against adults is that he looked beyond comfortable and was not physically intimidated. Also did well in his own end, backchecked & covered the slot several times for his dmen. Can't see how anyone can draw a single negative from his play
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 7 @ 3:36 PM ET
Steve Kournianos
‏ @TheDraftAnalyst
2m2 minutes ago

Overall impression of Jack Hughes playing against adults is that he looked beyond comfortable and was not physically intimidated. Also did well in his own end, backchecked & covered the slot several times for his dmen. Can't see how anyone can draw a single negative from his play

- vlongo4419

HUGhEs bust
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 7 @ 6:07 PM ET
pass on Eberle. Doesn't have IT. won't make us better.
Crushers68
New Jersey Devils
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Joined: 02.17.2009

May 7 @ 7:51 PM ET
I'd take Eberle only if he comes at a discount, which he probably won't. Why pay 6M to a player that can't put up 40 playing top 6 minutes? Bratt can challenge 40 already if he plays a full season... he'd challenge 50. Guy is only 21, so he might turn into a 70-80 pt winger in this league if he's trending.

But Eberle played 666 NHL regular season games, so Jersey, here we come!

- archromat


I agree and want nothing to do with Eberle. I sense we will always be wanting more production from him but never get it. Kind of like MarJo 2.0 when he was in the lineup
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 7 @ 8:09 PM ET
I agree and want nothing to do with Eberle. I sense we will always be wanting more production from him but never get it. Kind of like MarJo 2.0 when he was in the lineup
- Crushers68


yup. poor use of resources (money and lineup spot)
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 8 @ 10:21 AM ET
yup. poor use of resources (money and lineup spot)
- MartysBetter88


(frank)ing everybody is always the wrong guy....

Who do you want to sign?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 8 @ 11:19 AM ET
(frank)ing everybody is always the wrong guy....

Who do you want to sign?

- Queenie_5_hole


What if we packaged Speers, Anderson and somoene else to a cash strapped team like tampa? Get a good quality, established player
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 8 @ 11:44 AM ET
(frank)ing everybody is always the wrong guy....

Who do you want to sign?

- Queenie_5_hole


lol not everybody.. but there's a lot of poopty characters that just because they're available doesn't make them worth the spot or money. There are a few UFAs i'd be interested in, but then there's also the trade route.. and then the option of not making a big move and making a trade at the deadline if we're in contention. Hughes, Smith, and having Hall back will be a huge boost on their own.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 8 @ 11:57 AM ET
lol not everybody.. but there's a lot of poopty characters that just because they're available doesn't make them worth the spot or money. There are a few UFAs i'd be interested in, but then there's also the trade route.. and then the option of not making a big move and making a trade at the deadline if we're in contention. Hughes, Smith, and having Hall back will be a huge boost on their own.
- MartysBetter88


Hall is looking for help and while Hughes and Smith should be outstanding rookies, they are still rookies. Assuming Hughes plays 2C, he should have a quality set of wingers to play with. Bratt is fine (unless you want to remember he can't stay in the lineup or be productive for an entire season) but seem a bit short. I think we need to bring someone in to at least cover for the loss of Mojo. If not Eberle, then maybe Nyquist or Zucker via trade. Or somebody else. But sitting pat seems crazy because it could cost you Taylor Hall; and the team needs more skill guys anyway.


Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

May 8 @ 12:01 PM ET
Hall is looking for help and while Hughes and Smith should be outstanding rookies, they are still rookies. Assuming Hughes plays 2C, he should have a quality set of wingers to play with. Bratt is fine (unless you want to remember he can't stay in the lineup or be productive for an entire season) but seem a bit short. I think we need to bring someone in to at least cover for the loss of Mojo. If not Eberle, then maybe Nyquist or Zucker via trade. Or somebody else. But sitting pat seems crazy because it could cost you Taylor Hall; and the team needs more skill guys anyway.
- Queenie_5_hole

I don't think Bratt is injury prone, but the point that we have a severe lack of forward depth holds. If somebody gets injured, who steps up to fill in offensively? Nobody. I see the point that Eberle might command more money than his production is worth, but we do need proven scoring talent to move this team in the right direction.
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 8 @ 12:08 PM ET
I don't think Bratt is injury prone, but the point that we have a severe lack of forward depth holds. If somebody gets injured, who steps up to fill in offensively? Nobody. I see the point that Eberle might command more money than his production is worth, but we do need proven scoring talent to move this team in the right direction.
- Pomegrant


We seem to have lots of young pieces in place... Could this be the off season where Shero does an offer sheet and lose a few firsts? I cant imagine our 1sts will be high picks going forward so maybe its worth it, considering that picks aren't guaranteed and you'll be getting an excellent player in return without losing roster players?
Pomegrant
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2010

May 8 @ 12:11 PM ET
We seem to have lots of young pieces in place... Could this be the off season where Shero does an offer sheet and lose a few firsts? I cant imagine our 1sts will be high picks going forward so maybe its worth it, considering that picks aren't guaranteed and you'll be getting an excellent player in return without losing roster players?
- Leniwm1

Nobody offer sheets any player, it's not even worth talking about. If you want to offer sheet Marner, for example, it'll cost you four 1st round picks. It's just not realistic to spew that many resources for one guy.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 8 @ 12:19 PM ET
Nobody offer sheets any player, it's not even worth talking about. If you want to offer sheet Marner, for example, it'll cost you four 1st round picks. It's just not realistic to spew that many resources for one guy.
- Pomegrant

Yeah (frank) going after Marner
devilspep
Joined: 07.12.2009

May 8 @ 12:44 PM ET
We seem to have lots of young pieces in place... Could this be the off season where Shero does an offer sheet and lose a few firsts? I cant imagine our 1sts will be high picks going forward so maybe its worth it, considering that picks aren't guaranteed and you'll be getting an excellent player in return without losing roster players?
- Leniwm1


That's how you become Ottawa. Do you want to become Ottawa?
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 8 @ 12:54 PM ET
That's how you become Ottawa. Do you want to become Ottawa?
- devilspep


How you become Ott is poopty management and no leadership in lockeroom.

Offer sheets are great!

And yes, getting Willy or Marner in exchange for picks is greatIf you want to trade for an elite player, you'll be giving up 2 1sts and roster players or prospects.

I think this is the least damaging way to excel your team (if no FA tickle your pickle) . Assuming Shero is happy with the young talent. If he feels we need more from upcoming drafts than thats a different story.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 8 @ 1:27 PM ET
If getting Ebs secures you Hall, you (frank)ing do it. No questions asked.

But let us dig into this option further.

Cons:

The issue with Eberle is that he hasn't been able to find his ideal form since that 76 point season and the few years after; inept defensively; small stature; can be lacking on the forecheck at times; will need a supporting cast to get the best of him (cannot carry a line);

Pros:
High Hockey IQ, agile, offensive threat; His career average in terms of points is around 60 per season; top 6 winger without a doubt (solid supporting piece); built for the modern game; if signing Ebs secures Hall, you do it (not to mention Hall has had good chemistry with Ebs in the past)

Deployment:

His best years were in a line consisting of Hall and RNH.

He isn't an offensive dynamo as in he can carry a line, but with the right cast, he can shine. A (defensively minded preferred) center who can excel in a two-way role (cover for Ebs and allow him to push offensively), coupled with a dynamic winger who can push possession will be the ideal conditions for Eberle.

Hall-Hughes or Hichier-Eberle

That line would do well against any team in the league.
EdmHockeyMan
Referee
Location: Lumbridge, AB
Joined: 06.24.2013

May 8 @ 1:40 PM ET
The issue, of course, is the cap it'll take to get him.

He is gonna want 7-8m based on his career, the current cap, and how F/A tends to overpay, but if Shero can get him at 6m, it actually wouldn't be bad at all. Maybe 7m for 5y could be the worst case scenario? Contract ends when he turns 33.

Nonetheless, barring this down year (however he had a stellar showing in the playoffs), he is on average a 60 point producer and will improve the top 6 of nearly every NHL team. It just comes down to the price point and tangibles involved in signing him.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 8 @ 1:44 PM ET
If ebs demands 7-8 and signs to that, then hall will cost 12-13 easy
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 8 @ 1:48 PM ET
If ebs demands 7-8 and signs to that, then hall will cost 12-13 easy
- shvingter88


poop, no way we sign hall if he wants 12-13 at least I wouldnt... That's Mcjesus money.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
poop, no way we sign hall if he wants 12-13 at least I wouldnt... That's Mcjesus money.
- Leniwm1

Me too

But players prices keep going up

Ebs, a 50 point player getting 7-8 is bonkers.

Therefore if he signs that hall is almost double
Leniwm1
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Joined: 02.24.2015

May 8 @ 1:55 PM ET
Me too

But players prices keep going up

Ebs, a 50 point player getting 7-8 is bonkers.

Therefore if he signs that hall is almost double

- shvingter88


With how much Hall wants to win, I think he knows how to cash strap a team. I hope he aint that player. If he is, trade block it is.
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