But I read on here that players don't change and they are who they are


ROR = loss of

Zadorov
JT Compher

for Burgland , Sobotka , and pick 29 in 2019
- MEBSabresFAN

Tage has a chance to do something as well but yea Id rather of kept Compher and Zadorov

Tage has a chance to do something as well but yea Id rather of kept Compher and Zadorov
- Pegullaville

And every other player/pick that was traded away before 2017.

Tage has a chance to do something as well but yea Id rather of kept Compher and Zadorov
- Pegullaville

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good pt, so many moving parts in that whole ROR fiasco, I mean, either keep him or get proper value. Botts trade was worse than Murray's and that's not easy

Well Wetbandit the CBJ's didn't make the playoffs "just to get crushed by Tampa" but did get knocked out in the 2nd round and will most likely watch their whole team walk out the door for nothing when they could of traded Bob and Panarin this past offseason and cashed in on multiple assets to surround the core that will remain.

I still like the patient approach Botts' is taking with this team, because once the puzzle falls into place, we'll have sustained success for a long time.
- Pegullaville

Seems to me that the Pittsburgh/Chicago timelines for success are the exception,
and not the norm

And there’s lots of teams that have struggles for years & NEVER build a Pens or Hawks like dynasty

We are likely A LOT farther away than you’re thinking

Maybe guys like Nylander & Olofsson turn into “ok” top6 guys,
but it’s not looking like either will be difference makers

And overpaying these 2nd & even 3rd tier UFA options that ppl are suggesting is a freaking awful idea

Seems to me that the Pittsburgh/Chicago timelines for success are the exception,
and not the norm

And there’s lots of teams that have struggles for years & NEVER build a Pens or Hawks like dynasty

We are likely A LOT farther away than you’re thinking

Maybe guys like Nylander & Olofsson turn into “ok” top6 guys,
but it’s not looking like either will be difference makers

And overpaying these 2nd & even 3rd tier UFA options that ppl are suggesting is a freaking awful idea
- jdfitz77

Olofsson will be a top 6 winger with a shot like that. Even if he plays on the 3rd line and just sets up on the half wall on PP1 he'll be good for 20 goals a year. Nylander and Thompson remain to be seen but they both look like NHLers to me at one point or another but their impact remains to be seen. Mittelstadt will be a stud, just a matter of when. 7th OA will produce another top 6 caliber forward that will be ready in a year or two. We do need a veteran centre that can play 2C to start before settling in as a long-term 3C and we need another veteran two way winger for the top 6 (two if Skinner leaves)

He had an awesome year at Michigan as well after we drafted him and from that moment it was evident that the guy could be a 3C at the NHL level yet we included him the deal for some reason.
- Pegullaville

A guy who’s a “3C” is just a part that’s easily replaceable
That’s 1 reason i argued to trade Girgs + for O’Reilly back when he signed the offersheet with Calgary
*no, i did NOT think Girgs would be our future Captain. I said he’d too out as. Defensive 3C who would never have a 20goal season

You’d trade a “3C” prospect + right now for William Karlsson, right?

Olofsson will be a top 6 winger with a shot like that. Even if he plays on the 3rd line and just sets up on the half wall on PP1 he'll be good for 20 goals a year. Nylander and Thompson remain to be seen but they both look like NHLers to me at one point or another but their impact remains to be seen. Mittelstadt will be a stud, just a matter of when. 7th OA will produce another top 6 caliber forward that will be ready in a year or two. We do need a veteran centre that can play 2C to start before settling in as a long-term 3C and we need another veteran two way winger for the top 6 (two if Skinner leaves)
- Pegullaville

That’s not even close to a “Cup” contender though

Olofsson will be a top 6 winger with a shot like that. Even if he plays on the 3rd line and just sets up on the half wall on PP1 he'll be good for 20 goals a year. Nylander and Thompson remain to be seen but they both look like NHLers to me at one point or another but their impact remains to be seen. Mittelstadt will be a stud, just a matter of when. 7th OA will produce another top 6 caliber forward that will be ready in a year or two. We do need a veteran centre that can play 2C to start before settling in as a long-term 3C and we need another veteran two way winger for the top 6 (two if Skinner leaves)
- Pegullaville

Even if guys develop, it's still a soft group and extremely weak defensively. Add the abundance of LW's + lack of RW's and it just screams for a few trades. It's just not a well constructed group.

That’s not even close to a “Cup” contender though
- jdfitz77

I didn’t think the Hurricanes would be this year either. I think if the Sabres add a productive veteran centre, a top 9 quality winger, and play better defensively this team will be in the thick of the playoff race next year. Unless you can age Dahlin and Mittelstadt 2-3 years there is really no amount of moves we can make within reason to make us a cup contender next season.

I didn’t think the Hurricanes would be this year either. I think if the Sabres add a productive veteran centre, a top 9 quality winger, and play better defensively this team will be in the thick of the playoff race next year. Unless you can age Dahlin and Mittelstadt 2-3 years there is really no amount of moves we can make within reason to make us a cup contender next season.
- Pegullaville

But we can make moves that will hamper us from developing into the type team you’re talking about
Like signing Duchene to 9mil per
Or overpaying guys like Hayes on long term deals

I’d rather not sign ANY of the UFAs out there, than sign the WRONG ones

I didn’t think the Hurricanes would be this year either. I think if the Sabres add a productive veteran centre, a top 9 quality winger, and play better defensively this team will be in the thick of the playoff race next year. Unless you can age Dahlin and Mittelstadt 2-3 years there is really no amount of moves we can make within reason to make us a cup contender next season.
- Pegullaville

Shame on your factually accurate opinion.

But we can make moves that will hamper us from developing into the type team you’re talking about
Like signing Duchene to 9mil per
Or overpaying guys like Hayes on long term deals

I’d rather not sign ANY of the UFAs out there, than sign the WRONG ones
- jdfitz77

This is also true. Nyquist and Brett Connolly are two guys that interest me for our RW void. Tanev, Boyle, Donskoi interest me as bottom 6 options. Brock Nelson I believe would be the best return on investment down the middle as a 2C/3C for long term. I’m not a fan of Hayes’ footspeed and Duchene will not come cheap if he doesn’t resign in Columbus.

This is also true. Nyquist and Brett Connolly are two guys that interest me for our RW void. Tanev, Boyle, Donskoi interest me as bottom 6 options. Brock Nelson I believe would be the best return on investment down the middle as a 2C/3C for long term. I’m not a fan of Hayes’ footspeed and Duchene will not come cheap if he doesn’t resign in Columbus.
- Pegullaville

I’m not a fan of most of those guys either
Not long term, and not at the overpay most would cost us

I didn’t think the Hurricanes would be this year either. I think if the Sabres add a productive veteran centre, a top 9 quality winger, and play better defensively this team will be in the thick of the playoff race next year. Unless you can age Dahlin and Mittelstadt 2-3 years there is really no amount of moves we can make within reason to make us a cup contender next season.
- Pegullaville

Then going by your previous statements,
we should tank next year... correct?

Money means nothing to the Sabres Owners.
Apparently it is all about the fun learning on the job.

From now on, the soul purpose of the Sabres is to provide fun for our family.
- IonSabres

Well when you drop 1.7 billion dollars into something, it’s fair to say you’ll run it your way.

But I read on here that players don't change and they are who they are


ROR = loss of

Zadorov
JT Compher

for Burgland , Sobotka , and pick 29 in 2019
- MEBSabresFAN

I kinda hate this team ...

Eventually it becomes time to poop or get off the pot. I applaud them for going for it and the only thing preventing them from moving on is Rask playing out of his mind.
- Wetbandit1

Or, some puck luck on those 4 shots that beat Tukka and hit the posts/crossbar.

Well when you drop 1.7 billion dollars into something, it’s fair to say you’ll run it your way.
- washedup20

Close.
You are only off by $1.5B

It maybe safe to say that we are currently in the bowels of disappointment and satisfaction with the Sabres.

One of the most disappointing seasons in team history, exacerbated by the 10 game anomaly that increased expectations, and then the meteoric decline for the last 3-1/2 months of the season.
The roster is littered with below average players for their respective position save for a few.

Yet, here they are, in a position to take a couple of steps forward by
-hiring a solid coach, like many I suspect, Gronborg has impressed me as a guy who could do something positive here.
- reshape the roster through smart trades and a couple of lower level FA signings.
- properly developing players
▪ I do hope they will be monitoring Mitts, Tage, VO, Dahlin and others to ensure they are maximizing there offseason

Next offseason then brings another opportunity to upgrade the roster in meaningful ways through the available Cap Space they will have, barring stupid moves this season. No more dead contracts should be entertained unless the other asset is of high value and the bad contract has a remaining term of 12 months max.

Is the cup half empty, or half full?

Then going by your previous statements,
we should tank next year... correct?
- jdfitz77

I mean we could but if this team happens to miss the playoffs again next year I’m hoping it’s due to playing a full 82 game season and just falling short. 2020 draft is already looking pretty good though. 2019 draft is Probably the best once since 2015, however 2020 has the potential to be on par with 2015.

I mean we could but if this team happens to miss the playoffs again next year I’m hoping it’s due to playing a full 82 game season and just falling short. 2020 draft is already looking pretty good though. 2019 draft is Probably the best once since 2015, however 2020 has the potential to be on par with 2015.
- Pegullaville

That a boy flaccoville

Should have been 5 and a game

I don't think it would matter much though

McAvoy has a hearing with the DOPS

Should have been 5 and a game

I don't think it would matter much though

McAvoy has a hearing with the DOPS
- Stripes77

Could have been a match penalty, however there is no provision for a major or a game misconduct. Not sure on the difference between a match penalty and a game misconduct. I would think that there will be a one game suspension since they announced he will be getting a phone call from DOPS. Looking at it in slow-mo it appears that the initial contact is the elbow to the chest and then the shoulder hits high. Anderson did turn at the last second too, otherwise it would have been shoulder on shoulder. Seeing their interaction in the handshake line, it didn't seem Anderson had any ill will towards McAvoy.

I mean we could but if this team happens to miss the playoffs again next year I’m hoping it’s due to playing a full 82 game season and just falling short. 2020 draft is already looking pretty good though. 2019 draft is Probably the best once since 2015, however 2020 has the potential to be on par with 2015.
- Pegullaville

I think with a good move or 2 that could be true
But that’s not getting us on par with the big boys
Even with a good draft,
And waiting 2-3 years (at the earliest) for the #7 pick to be making a difference for us...
I still don’t see us matching up
Not unless we can make some great trades
Unfortunately,
Idk if we will be able to snag the type of UFAs that are worth overpaying for
This year, that guy was Stone...
not Duchene (Hayes, etc)